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Cosmic Afro posted:Yeah, I made a googledoc of all my relics and I'm looking things over. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MUlVZ5DdNeiWCyH29PbkMiLqU1Z1q0ZgPeh08jnTDLc/edit#gid=0 Personally I went for Faris, as I have both USBs and BSB; otherwise I've gone for double casts I have good relics for: Cloud, Ysh, and Bartz so far. I'm currently debating on Cid Raines and Agrias, as those both seem solid. I don't have them, but Ayame looks great and with Noctis OSB/LMR you may consider his dive, if you want a nonelemental murder bot. As long as you are interested in investing the crystals for Omega Drive.
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Edge USB has pushed my liquid flame runs from struggling to get under 1:00 to occasionally sub 30s. It depends on how many physical aoe attacks are used and how many times raging waters double procs for sub 30s success.
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On that note is there a good way to protect mirror image stacks? Does normal p blink get used up first when both are applied?
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Sep 11, 2017 00:49
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Mirror image is PBlink.
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Hogama posted:A little bit of update on the new SB gauge - the selection button will turn green at one bar, blue at two bars, and red at three bars. If the button changes colors, that makes me wonder if here will be variable cost soul breaks. These could be soul breaks that use up to three bars (or just all bars) and are more powerful/have bonus effects depending on how many bars go into them.
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Sep 11, 2017 01:30
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3 bars are turning into six half size bars apparently. Current SBs are going to use 2 half bars, no change in total points required though. Green uses one, blue two, red three (equivalent to 0.5, 1, 1.5 current SB bars)
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Cosmic Afro posted:Yeah, I made a googledoc of all my relics and I'm looking things over. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MUlVZ5DdNeiWCyH29PbkMiLqU1Z1q0ZgPeh08jnTDLc/edit#gid=0 I stole your sheet because it's a really nice format and did up my own collection so I have a nifty visual reference for what my synergy looks like, although a few things in there I don't physically have anymore (like Josef's Giant's Gloves or Rinoa's Rising Sun). It's good to see that I'm completely stacked for FFV.  Here's my collection if anyone cares.
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I can now get up to 9 hours of sleep without losing stamina 
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Sep 11, 2017 01:59
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Huh. Cecil's LMR on my gem pull. It's not amazing, but I have his BSB, and this is oddly enough my first holy+ armor all my Paladins can use since all I had before were robes. I guess if I ever want a Cover-er, I know who I'll dive. And while I know it's because Kain and Cecil's relics aren't new - but it's weird to see Cid BSB be the banner headliner right beside Edge USB.
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SO glad I did not draw for IV relics for the CM. I utterly smashed it with what I have(Kain BSB and Cecil BSB) in like two turns. ...and CRAP!!! Apparently the IV torment is coming on tuesday! NOO Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I can now get up to 9 hours of sleep without losing stamina Best QoL update you'll ever get
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:Mirror image is PBlink. I thought it was a unique buff that does that same thing as pblink but isn't the same thing as edge ssb for example
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Fister Roboto posted:I can now get up to 9 hours of sleep without losing stamina I blasted through the realm dungeons specifically for this. It's amazing.
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I wonder if we will get the bard motes finally since they're supposed to be with the IV torment.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:I thought it was a unique buff that does that same thing as pblink but isn't the same thing as edge ssb for example You can use Blink from other sources like Edge's SSB to increase the damage from things like Reflecting Pool. They're the same status. (I'm not sure if Sephiroth/Y'shtola's Dual Blink counts, but it's probably not hard to check).
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I guess it might be worth noting that it doesn't matter what order you stack Reflecting Pool and another blink to get a 2 stack blink. I was curious and tested it both ways (pool first then other blink, and other blink first then pool 2nd) but raging waters hit 4 times regardless
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Edge's lmr activating when you use your 1st reflecting pool is sweet. You can launching right into a 4 hit the next turn.
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Tyros USB is a flat 2000 HP stock which is already just about better than a curaga from tyro anyway, before taking into account his usb does a lot of other things
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Tyros USB is a flat 2000 HP stock which is already just about better than a curaga from tyro anyway, before taking into account his usb does a lot of other things Healing Grimoire is Curaja, which should easily hit 3k+. USB is still better most of the time, but if the boss isn't using status and you don't need to worry about refreshing Haste, might as well pop the stronger heal.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Healing Grimoire is Curaja, which should easily hit 3k+. USB is still better most of the time, but if the boss isn't using status and you don't need to worry about refreshing Haste, might as well pop the stronger heal. It's a bigger cure but it doesn't go on top of your max HP, and the USB gives tyro instant cast afterwards to get back more SB. It's not an exact replacement but basically nobody should be THAT upset they missed out on healing grimoire
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:That might be the case as well since supposedly there will be two new SB types and the other sounds like to be some giga overstrike. Hell it might even be more than 3 but the effect better be phenomenal at that point. It's worth noting that someone detected engine tweaks to let the game calculate damage in the billions. I'm not saying it's likely, just saying it's possible. Nihilarian posted:I master everything I get, no matter how poo poo it is. There's probably not going to be a day where Squall's Revolver comes in handy, but I'll be ready when it comes Even Core White Mage/Black Mage/Bard/Ranger have their unique gear SBs mastered. Leave no SB unmastered, no matter how worthless it may seem. Schwartzcough posted:You just kinda need to look at their LM and evaluate how useful they would be, especially based on the relics you have. In general, dualcast LMs are very powerful, and should probably be prioritized over stuff like "+1% magic for every ice attack used". Ayame is great because her BSB commands are classified as samurai, and her LM1 increases ice damage by 10% and her LM2 gives 35% chance to dualcast samurai abilities, so she can tear stuff up. Similarly Hope gets dualcast holy, so I guess he's alright if you plan to use his BSBs a lot. Yeah, it goes case-by-case. Like, even with Relm's BSB and USB she's basically rock-bottom priority for Legend Diving? Her LM1 would be nice (healing amount boost) but her LM2 (minor elemental resistance) isn't nearly as helpful as you'd think it would be. Contrast Y'shtola, whose dive gives her a Doublecast White Magic proc (which can and does trigger with her BSB commands), and it's obvious to see which is the "better". Good effects to look for in a LM2 (or LMR, but LMRs are generally less effective):
Snazzy Frocks posted:I thought it was a unique buff that does that same thing as pblink but isn't the same thing as edge ssb for example The unique buff is "the ability to stack pblinks", essentially. The 5* Ninja skill gives one layer of pblink and the ability to stack up to two. That means even if the enemy hits you once, you could cast back up to two again without any special help. (Some SBs automatically give multiple pblinks, but they're few and far between and not on anyone who can stack normally.) Kawalimus posted:...and CRAP!!! Apparently the IV torment is coming on tuesday! NOO It's finally coming. Bard motes. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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KataraniSword posted:(Some SBs automatically give multiple pblinks, but they're few and far between and not on anyone who can stack normally.) Not sure what you mean by "can stack normally", but Shadow's SSB gives two stacks of pblink that will work with the new ninja skills. So in theory he can bring lifesiphon for 2 gauges, SSB, BSB, and then spam the 4-hit dark equivalent of the water one we just got.
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Of all the characters with existing single-cast multi-blink SBs, Shadow is the only one who has Ninja 5, which is the only ability school that provides Physical Blink. (None of the following characters have a BSB command that grants them Physical Blink, either.) Rydia's Radiant Breath unique SB and Balthier's Element of Treachery unique SB are the other Physical Blink 2 characters. Yda has Physical Blink 3 on her USB. (Sephiroth's Octaslash BSB2 and Machina's Awakening USB give Dual Blink 2 on entry.) If it hasn't been pointed out, Eiko's BSB synergizes really well with these new Ninja abilities - 50% Critical chance on entry and Physical Blink 1 to target on CMD 1.
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Hogama posted:Of all the characters with existing single-cast multi-blink SBs, Shadow is the only one who has Ninja 5, which is the only ability school that provides Physical Blink. Right, I forgot Shadow's SSB gave him two stacks of pblink automatically.  Everyone obsessed over it when it first came out because of being instant-cast and Shadow being the only ninja with Lifesiphon access, so I was mistakenly under the belief it was just raw DPS like Locke's SSB1 was.But yeah, what I meant was that the two Ninja 5 skills are the only ones that let you stack blinks, and everyone (except Shadow) with a multi-blink SB lacks Ninja 5 access. Out of curiosity, could you use one of the blink skills and then Shadow's SSB to get to a stack of three, or does it hard-cap at 2?
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I think the status only enables 2 Physical Blink stacks, so probably just a hard limit there. Also! There was a livestream that ended a bit ago, with some tidbits. Elarra/Urara WILL eventually be a playable character, but the story has to catch up first. Palom and Porom's TAY wardrobe records are finished and coded and waiting on a IV event. (First they said there wouldn't be one this year, then after a break they said there WOULD be another one this year) 3rd anniversary won't have a 30-draw, but it will have a bunch of freebie goodies, including a new 5* Monk ability, Icicle Crush. (Rejoice, Snow and Josef!) Also a 70-mythril dungeon.   Nemesis will return for a Revenge dungeon fight, and there'll be a new elemental themed Eternal Crystal boss event, but the big superboss for this anniversary is none other than Ozma.  There will also be a trivia battle with Ragtime.  A Fork Tower event that prohibits physical abilities in one and magical abilities in the other.  On 15th September, SB Gauge will be revamped; on 19th September, 50 inventory slots will be given to all players for free and the maximum will be increased. Ultimate Overflow Stronger than OSBs Multi-hits Require 3 SB gauges You can only activate UOSB once per battle 99999 is the max per hit Flash Technique Sengi Can be used up to 3 times per battle require less SB gauge as usual Purpose is to allow players to use a SB early on in battle Enlightning... Instant Enlightning this is Lightning's Flash Tech There will be a free 11-pull banner with a free relic choice - all players will get 1 OSB, 1 BSB, and 1 SSB. And we know that Tyro gets a USB3 while Lightning and Squall get UOSBs.  (A sneak peek leaked of Squall's; apparently it's been buffed since this but it should still give an idea.) 
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I learned today that the extra hits from proccing spellblade master and such can incur multiple counter attacks. Eating multiple Counter Ultimate Firagas in a row is no fun.
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Good information for the new SB types, thanks for sharing Hogama. The previews answer one more thing that I was wondering about: the rarity of the new stuff. The image shows the relics being 6* so there we go. I'd assume we're looking at cool sidegrades and interesting options but not incredible power creep for now.
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Lightning will now have four relics that grant En-Lightning, her old SB, her SSB2, her USB and now her Flash SB (FSB?). Lightning strikes way too many times.
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Nice, I was a bit worried how this CM will go but did it just fine. 99 Golbez with R3 Syldra. Golbez has BSB but didn't use it. 72 Porom with Protectga. Has SSB Sync but didn't use 71 Rydia with R1 Tritoch and R3 Bahamut 71 Palom with R3 Ruinga 70 Gilbert with Mana's Pean RW my buddy ETB's Mog BSB on Gilbert Hydra Magicite (used before Tritoch) Killed the dolls before they combined. I brought my entire FFIV synergy, the whopping two items, but didn't actually use either SB. Good old novice rank clear but whatever, someone else can come and do the job properly.
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I haven't even gotten through the IV event yet. Been farming Ice Orbs with most of my free stamina. From what I've read of the CM though, Kain BSB makes it absolutely trivial. From reading the event today, I'm glad powercreep isn't accelerating too much with the new relics. I'll likely still limit myself to only two pulls max per banner for now though. I think there are too many good relics and chances to get these relics coming up to waste on bad chases.
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What's a good strategy for the Rubicante Jump Start? Seeing that he can randomly pull up his cloak and do hard counters to that, along with an Ultimate Dispel via Ultimate Inferno, it just seems like a big pain in the butt.
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Nuke the everliving crap out of him before he even cloaks up with Cloud USB RW and your strongest dudes (like every other event JS).
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Did the Event 220 and Rubicante never even put up his cloak. Chump. Sometime RNGesus works in mysterious ways, and doesn't always screw you over. Edit: Also F the rewards in this JS battle, I need the exact opposite: Dexterity 4* and Bravery 5*. Benthalus fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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So my enwatered, USBd, cloud USB RWd edge has the capability to do 99999x10 to apoc rubicante with raging waters dual proc...
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Alxprit posted:What's a good strategy for the Rubicante Jump Start? Seeing that he can randomly pull up his cloak and do hard counters to that, along with an Ultimate Dispel via Ultimate Inferno, it just seems like a big pain in the butt. I'm pretty sure he always cloaks up on his fifth turn. I have no idea about the second time because I OSBd his rear end dead before that.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I stole your sheet because it's a really nice format and did up my own collection so I have a nifty visual reference for what my synergy looks like, although a few things in there I don't physically have anymore (like Josef's Giant's Gloves or Rinoa's Rising Sun). Thanks you, you're welcome! I'm thinking of adding some visualization to tell me which relic have a SB that's an EnElement, Imperil or something similar, too, maybe a colored comment or similar. I've also decided to invest into Ayame's Legend Materia grid and maxed out. This is kind of nuts. Cosmic Afro fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Alxprit posted:What's a good strategy for the Rubicante Jump Start? Seeing that he can randomly pull up his cloak and do hard counters to that, along with an Ultimate Dispel via Ultimate Inferno, it just seems like a big pain in the butt. Fister Roboto posted:I'm pretty sure he always cloaks up on his fifth turn. I have no idea about the second time because I OSBd his rear end dead before that. Yeah, it's not "at random", it's on a definite set turn cycle. If you're looking to rush him down between cloakings, consider investing in AoE instant-cast SBs if you have them - Relm USB, Ramza USB, Noctis SSB, Raijin SSB. The faster you get your own SBs out, the more you can whittle him down before the cloak goes up again. That said, I went through both the A+ and JS without knowing Ultimate Inferno was an Ultimate Dispel. Sorry, Dr. Mog, if that helpful tip was in your giant tl;dr blurb of word vomit, I missed it. If nothing else, it explains why my damage tanked and his damage skyrocketed every time he came out of a decloak cycle. EDIT: Sure enough, it's right there near the top. Dear writers/translators: when your boss "tips" are an unbroken blob of 8-point sans serif text that takes up an entire in-game page of text, you might be getting a bit too wordy, kupo. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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pichupal posted:Lightning will now have four relics that grant En-Lightning, her old SB, her SSB2, her USB and now her Flash SB (FSB?). Lightning strikes way too many times. Probably the best source of EnLightning for her, too. If you don't have the USB, you'd otherwise have to spend a full bar and cast time mostly just to get EnLightning rolling. Now you can do it instantly for half a bar.
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Serious protip for 220 Cagnazzo: doing it solo with a full back row team is a million times easier than doing it in MP.
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