Political Cartoons 2017: Gotta go fasc

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Selachian: Oct 9, 2012

albany academy posted:

Also looking forward to this

I'm betting Garrison is going to completely ignore this, just like he does everything he can't spin/blame on the usual bogeymen.

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Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

I usually skip posting the non-political Dan Lietha drivel. But gently caress him.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:16

Sandpuppy: Jun 16, 2012; Social Abscess
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King Possum III posted:

Notably absent: "Trickle Down Economics" and "The Complete Encyclopedia of Donald Trump Campaign Promises, Stump Speeches, and Tweets". Maybe they'll be found in the Kids Corner.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:17

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Zesty posted:

I usually skip posting the non-political Dan Lietha drivel. But gently caress him.

Thanks I had almost forgotten what a fucker God is by forever punishing people for the deeds of their ancient ancestors.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:19

toanoradian: May 31, 2011; The happiest waffligator

Zesty posted:

I usually skip posting the non-political Dan Lietha drivel. But gently caress him.

That forbidden fruit looks like a bunch of grapes than an apple. Is there a consensus on what the forbidden fruit looks like?

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:27

Hunt11: Jul 24, 2013; Grimey Drawer

toanoradian posted:

That forbidden fruit looks like a bunch of grapes than an apple. Is there a consensus on what the forbidden fruit looks like?

Everybody has seemed to settle on it being an apple.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:28

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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I thought that Jesus' sacrifice was supposed to redeem mankind from original sin

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:28

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

toanoradian posted:

That forbidden fruit looks like a bunch of grapes than an apple. Is there a consensus on what the forbidden fruit looks like?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_fruit#Identifications_and_depictions

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:31

Lord Hydronium: Sep 25, 2007; Non, je ne regrette rien

toanoradian posted:

That forbidden fruit looks like a bunch of grapes than an apple. Is there a consensus on what the forbidden fruit looks like?

It doesn't say in the Bible, and the apple is just a traditional thing that artists decided on (one theory is that "malum" means "evil" and "apple" in Latin, so it's either a bad translation or a play on words). Given Lietha's thoughts on how the Ark is portrayed, I imagine he has strong feelings about extra-Biblical ideas of the forbidden fruit.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:33

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

It was actually durians. They were forbidden for a reason.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 04:35

Volcott: Mar 30, 2010; People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

toanoradian posted:

That forbidden fruit looks like a bunch of grapes than an apple. Is there a consensus on what the forbidden fruit looks like?

That's a mutfruit. A fallout cartoon.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 05:04

Silver2195: Apr 4, 2012

Interestingly, Muslims believe the forbidden fruit was a banana, while Yazidis believe it was wheat.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 05:07

Tibalt: May 14, 2017; What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

Zesty posted:

I usually skip posting the non-political Dan Lietha drivel. But gently caress him.

Romans 8:22 posted:

22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

Genesis 2:15-17 posted:

15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, �You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.�

Genesis 3:1-24 posted:

3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, �Did God really say, �You must not eat from any tree in the garden�?�

2 The woman said to the serpent, �We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, �You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.��

4 �You will not certainly die,� the serpent said to the woman. 5 �For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.�
YADDA YADDA YADDA YOU PROBABLY LEARNED THE STORY IN BIBLE SCHOOL
21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, �The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.� 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Some times when I see messages quoting a dozen verses of the Bible, I like to actually look them up and see what the hell is being quoted as so meaningful. The message here is rather... muddled. Obviously, Romans 8:22 is being taken painfully out of context -

Romans:18-30 posted:

18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God�s people in accordance with the will of God.

28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[i] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

Which is even further undercut throughout the rest of Romans 8, which is basically "Yeah it's basically impossible to be Righteous enough to deserve everlasting paradise but thankfully God is being lenient, just got to believe."

But even worse, the implication seems to be that a Loving God is justified in sending Harvey/Irma/Jose upon us because of original sin. Which uh, well... let me quote good ol' Job here:

Job 9:14-35 posted:

14 �How then can I dispute with him?
How can I find words to argue with him?
15 Though I were innocent, I could not answer him;
I could only plead with my Judge for mercy.
16 Even if I summoned him and he responded,
I do not believe he would give me a hearing.
17 He would crush me with a storm
and multiply my wounds for no reason.
18 He would not let me catch my breath
but would overwhelm me with misery.
19 If it is a matter of strength, he is mighty!
And if it is a matter of justice, who can challenge him[b]?
20 Even if I were innocent, my mouth would condemn me;
if I were blameless, it would pronounce me guilty.
21 �Although I am blameless,
I have no concern for myself;
I despise my own life.
22 It is all the same; that is why I say,
�He destroys both the blameless and the wicked.�
23 When a scourge brings sudden death,
he mocks the despair of the innocent.
24 When a land falls into the hands of the wicked,
he blindfolds its judges.
If it is not he, then who is it?
25 �My days are swifter than a runner;
they fly away without a glimpse of joy.
26 They skim past like boats of papyrus,
like eagles swooping down on their prey.
27 If I say, �I will forget my complaint,
I will change my expression, and smile,�
28 I still dread all my sufferings,
for I know you will not hold me innocent.
29 Since I am already found guilty,
why should I struggle in vain?
30 Even if I washed myself with soap
and my hands with cleansing powder,
31 you would plunge me into a slime pit
so that even my clothes would detest me.
32 �He is not a mere mortal like me that I might answer him,
that we might confront each other in court.
33 If only there were someone to mediate between us,
someone to bring us together,
34 someone to remove God�s rod from me,
so that his terror would frighten me no more.
35 Then I would speak up without fear of him,
but as it now stands with me, I cannot.

TL:DR: FUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUU DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

# ? Sep 11, 2017 05:12

Selachian: Oct 9, 2012

toanoradian posted:

That forbidden fruit looks like a bunch of grapes than an apple. Is there a consensus on what the forbidden fruit looks like?

# ? Sep 11, 2017 05:25

Jay Rust: Sep 27, 2011

Here are the last few Two Bulls we're going to see for a while:

You can see the anger...

# ? Sep 11, 2017 05:34

Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

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Apple Pie Hubbub: Feb 14, 2012; Take that, you greedy jerk!

# ? Sep 11, 2017 06:56

Electric Phantasm: Apr 7, 2011; YOSPOS

albany academy posted:

Also looking forward to this

Feel like you're going to be waiting a bit he's probably now focused on a free speech cartoon about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

# ? Sep 11, 2017 07:02

Neeksy: Mar 29, 2007; Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Being an anti-Trump Republican is an ultimately effortless and useless gesture and nobody should applaud them for staying in the broken shambling corpse of a party that hasn't even been good for over half a century. A Good Cartoon.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 07:08

King Possum III: Feb 15, 2016

# ? Sep 11, 2017 07:16

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Throwing Turtles posted:

7.
A Strong Protection--Brooklyn Daily Eagle 1-4-1939

I would really, really like to get my hands on this speech. It's potential gold for several different purposes simultaneously, because, um, yes, it's that Lehman. Does anyone know where I might be able to find a good record of it?

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Sep 11, 2017

# ? Sep 11, 2017 07:21

Vib Rib: Jul 23, 2007; God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss
🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Electric Phantasm posted:

Feel like you're going to be waiting a bit he's probably now focused on a free speech cartoon about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41222593

I'm not sure anyone here gives a poo poo about this guy, but since he's the #1 youtuber on the fuckin site he's got some influence, especially towards kids and teens.
I saw some talk about this that raised a good point: the way he delivers the slur is tellingly natural and easy. Some people, you hear them say it for a "joke" or some forced, edgy insult, and they trip over the word, or they pause. It feels uncomfortable. Here, it was nothing like that. It was spoken like second nature.
I'm not bringing this up to police the tone, but it reveals something about his character. This isn't a guy getting so frustrated he said something he would never normally say. This is a guy who got so frustrated he forgot his "I'm being filmed" filter. This is a guy who says that word all the time in private, or among friends, but in a moment of impulse forgot he was live and his true nature showed. This is a word he uses all the time, and he's just told the whole world as much.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 10:00

toanoradian: May 31, 2011; The happiest waffligator

Maybe as a non-American he had not received the same amount of social pressure to not use the n-word.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 10:17

Trapezium Dave: Oct 22, 2012

A combo of:
National party votes to remove all subsidies for renewable energy: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...908-gydw5m.html

and:
https://twitter.com/adamgartrell/status/907012239592275968

# ? Sep 11, 2017 10:19

Avirosb: Nov 21, 2016; Everyone makes pisstakes

toanoradian posted:

Maybe as a non-American he had not received the same amount of social pressure to not use the n-word.

'friend of the family' pretty much has the same negative connotation in his native Swedish tongue.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 10:25

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

Sandpuppy posted:

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Never thought I'd see the day when anti-climate change denial cartoons got as annoyingly trite as climate change denial cartoons, but this recent flood of them is making me reconsider.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 10:58

Vib Rib: Jul 23, 2007; God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss
🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

toanoradian posted:

Maybe as a non-American he had not received the same amount of social pressure to not use the n-word.

He, in particular, sure did at least. Primarily because he's been in trouble for language and topics in the past and is aware of his online presence (as a matter of necessity for protecting his income).

# ? Sep 11, 2017 10:59

Starving Wolf: Apr 2, 2010; MUCH LATER; Yams Fan

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:03

DONT TOUCH THE PC: Jul 15, 2001; You should try it, it's a real buzz.

Vib Rib posted:

He, in particular, sure did at least. Primarily because he's been in trouble for language and topics in the past and is aware of his online presence (as a matter of necessity for protecting his income).

The thing is that he's basically a morning-zoo DJ/shockjock and those thrive on controversy.
So there's also the "be offensive, but not too much" needle he's threading (and failing as of late) for that income.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:25

Starving Wolf: Apr 2, 2010; MUCH LATER; Yams Fan

...of course.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:34

Pretty good: Apr 16, 2007

Did Howard Stern ever drop the n-bomb

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:34

Pretty good: Apr 16, 2007

Starving Wolf posted:

...of course.

Oh my god what is this

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:35

Avirosb: Nov 21, 2016; Everyone makes pisstakes

Starving Wolf posted:

...of course.

Current stardate: 2017.

Obama's still captain of the ship, apparently.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:40

dougdrums: Feb 25, 2005; CLIENT REQUESTED ELECTRONIC FUNDING RECEIPT (FUNDS NOW)

Starving Wolf posted:

...of course.

Hahaha this is revised?!

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:50

Starving Wolf: Apr 2, 2010; MUCH LATER; Yams Fan

dougdrums posted:

Hahaha this is revised?!

Time is a flat circle.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:53

Pretty good: Apr 16, 2007

Six plus years ,,, of comma-ellipses ,,, :patriot:

# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:55

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

Self-reliance is pretty futile though.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 12:36

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

Every shithead conservative is being really smug that we have lead in our water because Pittsburgh has had Democratic leadership for nearly a century and they can go "Run by democrats. Go ahead Rob, keep on pulling the "D" lever. You get what you vote for." :smug:

While the problem is the Republicans have been able to stonewall any attempts to fix our ancient infrastructure leading to our dumb mayor to hire a French company that surprise surprise cut corners and used a chemical that degraded the pipes to leech lead into the water. Same dumbass mayor has also gotten some suit who worked with Reagan to help privatize public services because god forbid the rich fucks in this city pay taxes for public services and not stadiums for the sports teams.

# ? Sep 11, 2017 12:53

After The War: Apr 12, 2005; to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

Starving Wolf posted:

...of course.

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By popular demand: Jul 17, 2007; IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!

Do you think that news corporations would eventually stop hiring lazy cartoonists?

# ? Sep 11, 2017 13:14

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