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Onision is a douche. He seems to believe that being a douche to the IRS is somehow going to help. I'm pretty sure IRS invented being a douche so he's outclassed. Not having a tax lawyer and accountant after the last gently caress up he made shows that Onision is also retarded.
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Sep 9, 2017 02:54
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Ashcans posted:I watched this so you didn't have to. Highlights: Apparently he also does porn (which I think is part of why he was trying to justify the bedrooms as business expenses). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7w7uipD_ss&t=301s
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Sep 9, 2017 03:13
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Krispy Kareem posted:Maybe he's just making all this up. I mean he's been on youtube for years and was already a ~viral sensation~ by being a weird angsty teen goth whatever
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Sep 9, 2017 04:02
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Subjunctive posted:Does he still not have a tax lawyer? As recently as the video I posted (Sep. 6th) he was still trying to do it himself and didn't mention one, so no lol
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Sep 9, 2017 04:03
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pathetic little tramp posted:the best thing that could happen is if he goes all kent hovind on this poo poo I love the idea that the IRS has such a vast infinite pool of resources that they'll just beat up innocent youtube douches for money they don't owe, instead of the reality of their budget being bled to death and them barely able to audit a fraction of the amount they really should (so only incredibly obvious bullshit like this guy gets it)
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Sep 9, 2017 04:06
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ate all the Oreos posted:I love the idea that the IRS has such a vast infinite pool of resources that they'll just beat up innocent youtube douches for money they don't owe, instead of the reality of their budget being bled to death and them barely able to audit a fraction of the amount they really should (so only incredibly obvious bullshit like this guy gets it) My father in law worked for the IRS before he retired. When he was there, they had a quota per hour they were expected to make doing audits, so they went after rich people and people like this guy who clearly claimed waaaay too many deductions. I feel like funding more IRS auditors would actually result it net positive returns for the federal government, assuming they prioritize rich people, and ideally rich people who do not understand anything about tax law and don't have a CPA or a lawyer.
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Sep 9, 2017 04:18
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Apparently he also does porn (which I think is part of why he was trying to justify the bedrooms as business expenses). Hahaholy loving poo poo.
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Sep 9, 2017 04:54
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Commissar Kayla posted:My father in law worked for the IRS before he retired. When he was there, they had a quota per hour they were expected to make doing audits, so they went after rich people and people like this guy who clearly claimed waaaay too many deductions. I feel like funding more IRS auditors would actually result it net positive returns for the federal government, assuming they prioritize rich people, and ideally rich people who do not understand anything about tax law and don't have a CPA or a lawyer. You don't even have to assume, someone did a study and came to that exact conclusion. The IRS (and by extension the government) could reap billions of dollars net in fraudulent and back taxes with only a minor investment of resources. No need to raise taxes, no new laws, just collect what's already there. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/29/business/unpaid-annual-taxes-rise-to-458-billion-irs-reports.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2017/08/01/ignoring-83-of-payroll-tax-mismatches-irs-leaves-7-billion-uncollected-until-now/ But republicans are BWGovernment and continue to defund it, thus proving how ineffective and inefficient government is 
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Sep 9, 2017 04:55
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Hahaholy loving poo poo. I'd pay that stupid douche to keep it in his pants.
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Sep 9, 2017 05:02
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DarkHorse posted:You don't even have to assume, someone did a study and came to that exact conclusion. The IRS (and by extension the government) could reap billions of dollars net in fraudulent and back taxes with only a minor investment of resources. No need to raise taxes, no new laws, just collect what's already there. It is one thing to oppose high taxes, but once they are on the books, they should be enforced fairly and evenly. Doing otherwise just allows lawbreakers to get away with pushing the burden onto decent taxpayers. If the State thinks that a specific law is too unpopular, then they should remove it instead of simply not enforcing it.
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Sep 9, 2017 07:50
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DarkHorse posted:But republicans are BWGovernment and continue to defund it, thus proving how ineffective and inefficient government is Cheating on your taxes and then using your power to avoid getting audited is GWM, though.
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Sep 9, 2017 08:31
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I know people who use their HSA cards to buy cigarettes and they've never been audited Like, their employer puts $2000 into their HSA each year and they spend it all on cigarettes
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Sep 9, 2017 14:45
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EugeneJ posted:I know people who use their HSA cards to buy cigarettes and they've never been audited If they resell them it's GWM.
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Sep 9, 2017 15:48
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None of my HSA cards have ever let me use them on anything not coded a certain way. Like one time I bought toothpaste and my asthma medicine in the same transaction with my HSA card and only the asthma medicine went through and I had to pay for the toothpaste in cash.
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Sep 9, 2017 16:13
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Solice Kirsk posted:None of my HSA cards have ever let me use them on anything not coded a certain way. Like one time I bought toothpaste and my asthma medicine in the same transaction with my HSA card and only the asthma medicine went through and I had to pay for the toothpaste in cash. You sure that's not an FSA, because those definitely work the way you're describing.
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Sep 9, 2017 16:38
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ate all the Oreos posted:You sure that's not an FSA, because those definitely work the way you're describing. It also relies on the vendor actually coding things. That sorting is done by the stores cash register, not the visa/mc network. That being said fsa's have always been prompt to demand receipts for stuff where I used the debit card directly. HSA's are a lot more flexible and I have never dealt with one.
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Sep 9, 2017 16:52
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Does that person know that they can just transfer money directly from an HSA back to their checking account or whatever? Then they could double dip on credit card points instead.
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Sep 9, 2017 18:16
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TLG James posted:Does that person know that they can just transfer money directly from an HSA back to their checking account or whatever? Then they could double dip on credit card points instead. HSA contributions are pre-taxed so you can't move money out of one without a tax hit/penalty.
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Sep 9, 2017 20:10
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You make the charge on your cc then submit for reimbursement
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Sep 9, 2017 20:37
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Tomfoolery posted:HSA contributions are pre-taxed so you can't move money out of one without a tax hit/penalty. That is definitely not true. I've paid multiple medical expenses with my personal check book and then just transferred the money from my HSA back into my checking account. There is no accountability, unless you get audited or something. Not every place takes credit cards so you have to have a way to do it. I have never been asked to submit receipts or anything, although I've kept them.
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Sep 10, 2017 00:23
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You know, I just realized I've been paying my insurance premiums with my HSA and apparently that's not allowed.
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Sep 10, 2017 17:52
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I'm an accountant (CPA license in a few months, just a candidate now) for about ten years. Home office deductions are usually pretty drat hard to take for most folks. I think he has a valid argument for his studio space, but holy gently caress this guy is not correct on about 99%/100% of this. Does he know that human beings work at the IRS? He will probably find out (the hard way) that being combative/uncooperative/contemptuous during his audit is not a good idea. I'm a musician on the weekend and rehearse a poo poo ton in my apartment. Not a single deduction there, as my principal place of business are at the events themselves. I can deduct strings, speakers, dry cleaning, etc. I mean - as was mentioned above - there are loads of valid expenses in any business. Don't be a dumbass and read some guides related to your profession and you're gonna be fine. More BWT: I play hockey with a...unique individual. He's a contractor and very sure of his worldview. He has boasted to me about his "amazing accountant who worked for the IRS". He deducts EVERYTHING. I mean: groceries, rent, clothes, haircuts...you name it. His reasoning is that "[I] can't work if I don't eat, have a place to sleep, have clothing, etc." I've tried to explain that he's gonna burn hard for this. I'm chuffed to hear him say that I "don't know what I'm talking about." Not a wonder that his accountant doesn't work for the IRS anymore. Shine on, you crazy diamond.
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Sep 10, 2017 18:38
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Sometimes I wonder how people get to the "whoa, what if I deduct the things I need to live, and therefore ALSO need to work?" step and never reach the "wait, if you could do that, wouldn't everyone deduct this stuff? weird, maybe there's a reason they don't??" step. Then I remember there's an alarming number of people who think the law/IRS/etc are staffed by robots of pure logic who are incapable of making judgement calls or seeing through bullshit.
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Sep 10, 2017 21:20
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I know of a few women who shared the same tax preparer / accountant and he deducted stuff I would consider insane, like anything that would be considered "grooming" since women have to keep themselves attractive in the workplace, and I assume they all got lucky in that they were never audited (yet). People called him "the shady tax guy" or something to that effect so people even knew it was wrong, though I could never get a handle on whether he was strongly bending tax law or outright disregarding them. So, I guess people just really like rolling the dice to save like $500 a year and so long as they dodge scrutiny, in their mind it's all good.
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Sep 10, 2017 22:00
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Do people think they're absolved of all liability if they get someone else to improperly prepare their taxes?
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Sep 10, 2017 22:16
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Haifisch posted:Sometimes I wonder how people get to the "whoa, what if I deduct the things I need to live, and therefore ALSO need to work?" step and never reach the "wait, if you could do that, wouldn't everyone deduct this stuff? weird, maybe there's a reason they don't??" step. If everyone did it, it wouldn't be ONE WEIRD TRICK to pay less in taxes. Also see the IRS' page on reporting tax fraud: How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?, including Form 3949-A for false exemptions/deductions, and form 211 for applying for a monetary award for tipping off the IRS to fraud. GWM!
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Sep 10, 2017 23:51
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Haifisch posted:Sometimes I wonder how people get to the "whoa, what if I deduct the things I need to live, and therefore ALSO need to work?" step and never reach the "wait, if you could do that, wouldn't everyone deduct this stuff? weird, maybe there's a reason they don't??" step. Because everyone else who doesn't do this is a sucker.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:00
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ohgodwhat posted:Do people think they're absolved of all liability if they get someone else to improperly prepare their taxes? I’m going to guess a lot of them are confused on their CPA’s liability. Like my brother-in-law’s father had an accountant who was popular in their small town for taking crazy deductions. Then the IRS came calling and they all realized the importance of the C in CPA (she wasn’t certified). But even if she was, there are plenty of CPA’s who are struggling and will gamble with the odds and do stupid poo poo to get business.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:22
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Krispy Kareem posted:the importance of the C in CPA This is actually a really big deal. Because while you will still owe the money if a shady CPA is taking liberties you are at least seen as putting forth best effort if something is wrong (as far as I understand). This does not absolve you from providing false or misleading information to your CPA.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:31
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If you get busted for this poo poo (assuming you have a shady CPA sign off on it), do you actually pay penalties, or just what you would have owed in the first place?
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Sep 11, 2017 03:35
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A friend of mine, recently separated, told me that his ex's family all go to a tax preparer who gets them an absolute ton back in rebates. He does this by dramatically increasing their withholding. They love the guy for it and don't understand why my friend thinks that it's dumb, because LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE GOVERNMENT! It's like the people who hear "$1000 Cash Back" in an ad and think "why, they're practically paying ME for the car!"
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Sep 11, 2017 05:41
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Volmarias posted:A friend of mine, recently separated, told me that his ex's family all go to a tax preparer who gets them an absolute ton back in rebates. He does this by dramatically increasing their withholding. They love the guy for it and don't understand why my friend thinks that it's dumb, because LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE GOVERNMENT! Your friend is better without their partner.
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Sep 11, 2017 08:15
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Volmarias posted:A friend of mine, recently separated, told me that his ex's family all go to a tax preparer who gets them an absolute ton back in rebates. He does this by dramatically increasing their withholding. They love the guy for it and don't understand why my friend thinks that it's dumb, because LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE GOVERNMENT! I don't blame that CPA, the family is probably the type of client who yells at you when you try to do things the "right" way. He isn't being shady, just lazy which honestly is more amusing to me than nefarious. Commissar Kayla posted:My father in law worked for the IRS before he retired. When he was there, they had a quota per hour they were expected to make doing audits, so they went after rich people and people like this guy who clearly claimed waaaay too many deductions. I feel like funding more IRS auditors would actually result it net positive returns for the federal government, assuming they prioritize rich people, and ideally rich people who do not understand anything about tax law and don't have a CPA or a lawyer. Admittedly this is bad and I will look for an article or study to back this up, but I distinctly remember in one of my tax courses at college the professor either having a study/article about how actually re-funding the IRS so they can actually function would be the fastest way to reduce the defecit, beyond any budget cuts or "tax reform". Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 08:33
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Jack2142 posted:I don't blame that CPA, the family is probably the type of client who yells at you when you try to do things the "right" way. He isn't being shady, just lazy which honestly is more amusing to me than nefarious. I guess better that than under-withholding, where the family instead thinks they're screwing the government on the front end, but could get instead end up with them owing underpayment penalties come tax day.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:03
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Jack2142 posted:I don't blame that CPA, the family is probably the type of client who yells at you when you try to do things the "right" way. He isn't being shady, just lazy which honestly is more amusing to me than nefarious. Based on what I heard, there's no reason to think that this person was certified in any way. They also put his partner down as the co-owner of some random property a relative owned for some maybe legitimate reason. He could have hosed them over in the divorce but he took the high road.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:07
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19 o'clock posted:More BWT:
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Sep 11, 2017 15:13
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John Smith posted:Offer him a bet. You call in the IRS to audit him, and if his deductions pass the mark, you pay him $500. Otherwise, he pays you $500. Third-party to hold the money. Tell him to put his money where his mouth is. lmbo. It's just a friendly wager Officer, no extortion here. Edit: you should go to the IRS to get a nice finders fee though.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:18
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meat police posted:lmbo. It's just a friendly wager Officer, no extortion here. Upside if he declines, is that you can mock him relentlessly.
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