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So apparently the US response in the US Virgin Islands has been virtually nonexistent. https://twitter.com/ENGAGEDinEurope/status/907140077305958400 https://twitter.com/ballerfuturistc/status/907090875263717378  Island dog tax: 
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September 11th. Where I can get together with my family, and celebrate the President, having the tallest building in Manhattan.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:02
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Will Trump be speaking today?
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Sep 11, 2017 14:06
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BigglesSWE posted:Will Trump be speaking today? God, I hope so. However, I fear that Kelly will edit his speech down to: "what a crowd!" "radical islam terrorists are bad people" "We're doing amazing things in the middle east" "those were good towers. great towers" Post your predictions!
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Sep 11, 2017 14:13
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BigglesSWE posted:Will Trump be speaking today? With a speech written by Stephen Miller, I bet
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Sep 11, 2017 14:15
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Man I can't wait for Trump to Finally Be President today.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:17
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Those firefighters were so brave, they walked right into those towers. The lying media wouldn't go up there, believe me!
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Sep 11, 2017 14:17
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9/11 was the day the US snapped
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Sep 11, 2017 14:24
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Pembroke Fuse posted:God, I hope so. However, I fear that Kelly will edit his speech down to: "Hillary deleted emails sent on Sept 11th. The year's unimportant, it's the day that's sacred."
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Sep 11, 2017 14:27
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To be frank though does anyone actually care anymore? I'm not just talking jaded assholes on the internet but I can't think of any person I know that does. It certainly feels weird we are having this national day of mourning more than a decade after the event, but I suppose the first person that says "hey it's been long enough maybe we should get on with our lives and our country?" will be destroyed by every media outlet labeling them a traitor so no one want to be that person.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:28
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Radish posted:To be frank though does anyone actually care anymore? I'm not just talking jaded assholes on the internet but I can't think of any person I know that does. It certainly feels weird we are having this national day of mourning more than a decade after the event, but I suppose the first person that says "hey it's been long enough maybe we should get on with our lives and our country?" will be destroyed by every media outlet labeling them a traitor so no one want to be that person. There are a lot of people still out there with lost limbs, PTSD, etc from the wars that happened due to 9/11. There are a lot of people who still care.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:29
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Bob Corker (R-TN) likely to retire. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/corker-considering-retirement-2018 Seat still will almost certainly go Republican, but it went from 0% chance to 5% chance.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:31
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We still remember December 7th as a day that will live in infamy. So, yeah, people still care.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:32
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I guess but that severely seems like shifting the focus from the actual cause of those injuries. Caring about 9/11 because it caused people to be maimed in wars we shouldn't have gotten involved in while the actual event is still framed as an adequate reason to declare war on the Middle East seems like it's misplaced.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:32
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Radish posted:I guess but that severely seems like shifting the focus from the actual cause of those injuries. Caring about 9/11 because it caused people to be maimed in wars we shouldn't have gotten involved in while the actual event is still framed as an adequate reason to declare war on the Middle East seems like it's misplaced. To be fair, the country is learning. It ended up electing two presidents in a row that didn't support the war 
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Sep 11, 2017 14:35
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Jealous Cow posted:So apparently the US response in the US Virgin Islands has been virtually nonexistent. I have a lot of friends on St John and while thankfully everyone is ok, a lot of people have lost everything and from the sporadic snippets I'm reading it is starting to devolve into Mad Max territory pretty fast. A lot of people think of St John as just a bunch of rich fucks with their vacation villas but there is a local population there that is hurting bad and is getting virtually no help from anyone right now other than Kenny Chesney (seriously).
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Radish posted:I guess but that severely seems like shifting the focus from the actual cause of those injuries. Caring about 9/11 because it caused people to be maimed in wars we shouldn't have gotten involved in while the actual event is still framed as an adequate reason to declare war on the Middle East seems like it's misplaced. That doesn't make it smart or wise or worthy of the focus we give to it, but for many it's a communal and unifying memory in an age where we have very few of them. My dream would be that as a nation, we start using the remembrance to come to grips with the failures that followed. Crossposting Doucette from USPol: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/907218349783908352
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Sep 11, 2017 14:36
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Sixteen years of war, still going strong baby
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Sep 11, 2017 14:36
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TheKingofSprings posted:9/11 was the day the US snapped yep. it loving broke the GOP's(and the countries) brain.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:40
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Enigma89 posted:There are a lot of people still out there with lost limbs, PTSD, etc from the wars that happened due to 9/11. There are a lot of people who still care. My sister died in a car accident driving home from Christmas in 2013 and I don't have some event about it on that day every year. We celebrate her birthday, we remember her, but we don't have some big loving deal on the day she died. Other people can do what feels right to them to commemorate their loved ones but the fetishism of the date of their death seems unlikely to me to be welcomed by the families of 9/11 victims. Especially since it's such a naked, disgusting political ploy.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:41
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yep. it loving broke the GOP's(and the countries) brain. Uh...pretty sure their brains were broken long before 9/11.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:42
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Hoarding limited MREs and water for the vital employees isn't actually a Bad thing. If they are sitting on mounds and mounds of it, the outrage is justified, but I can see how rumors like start when someone sees one pallet at a fire house or a cop station.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:44
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Mr Interweb posted:Uh...pretty sure their brains were broken long before 9/11. It really did break them in a new, exciting way. People are still scared of being the personal victim of terrorism in the US, and event that almost certainly will not happen to very nearly all of them.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:44
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yep. it loving broke white America's brain. Fixed that for you. Thinking that one can't get-got and then getting-got really does something to an in-group.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:46
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9/11 was the day Osama won and the US became the biggest losers in the world. Osama might be in hell but he is sure ruling it with all the porn and virgins he could ever want.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:49
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empty whippet box posted:My sister died in a car accident driving home from Christmas in 2013 and I don't have some event about it on that day every year. We celebrate her birthday, we remember her, but we don't have some big loving deal on the day she died. Other people can do what feels right to them to commemorate their loved ones but the fetishism of the date of their death seems unlikely to me to be welcomed by the families of 9/11 victims. Especially since it's such a naked, disgusting political ploy. Counterpoint, a cousin died of a heart attack at 29 almost 9 years ago and it caused a schism in the wider family over those who 'moved on' and those who do exactly what you say is weird for people to do... so. In any case, 9/11 means almost nothing to the wider part of America and it's most definitely a prop - but that's not new. Boon fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 14:49
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The worst part about all the 9/11 ceremonies is the people who are incapable of letting others mourn/remember in their own way. Oh, you don't want to watch the ceremonies and talk about what it was like watching the towers come down? Well you must be an al-Qaeda sympathizer!
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Sep 11, 2017 14:53
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Why "move on" as a country when we could hold a vigil for this every year to prop up the "violent Islam" narriative? A free bump for Are Troops every year is not going to get passed over.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:54
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Radish posted:To be frank though does anyone actually care anymore? I'm not just talking jaded assholes on the internet but I can't think of any person I know that does. It certainly feels weird we are having this national day of mourning more than a decade after the event, but I suppose the first person that says "hey it's been long enough maybe we should get on with our lives and our country?" will be destroyed by every media outlet labeling them a traitor so no one want to be that person. If people say poo poo that would be offensive 364 days out of the year under the guise of mourning then sure, go in on that poo poo. But criticizing "why does anyone care anymore?" is about on the level of the people who are very quick to jump in front of a notable death with the mad ACTUALLY YOU NEVER MET PRINCE, AND I AM SKEPTICAL THAT YOU LOVED HIS MUSIC AS MUCH AS YOU CLAIM, AND ALSO PEOPLE DIE EVERY DAY, AND WHAT WAS HIS LAST GOOD ALBUM, AND I HEAR HE SCREWED WENDY AND LISA OUT OF ROYALTIES, WHY DO YOU CARE THAT A STRANGER DIED, YOU'RE BEING SAD WRONG.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Fixed that for you. It feels like you can glue "you mean WHITE AMERICA" to most political opinion and have it be reasonably astute commentary, but this one doesn't seem at all like a thing, tons of black people got super freaked out by 9/11 just as much as white people. Lots of black people died in 9/11
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Sep 11, 2017 14:56
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I find the thought of my family mourning me on the day of my death for years and years and never getting over it incredibly sad. Who would want their family to live like that?
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At the very least, 9/11 represents an inflection point in America and in history in general and that should be pondered.feedmyleg posted:I find the thought of my family mourning me on the day of my death for years and years and never getting over it incredibly sad. Who would want their family to live like that? It is, at a certain point you just kind of 'move on' from the people who are still living that way. Like I said, it was a spark that tore my mom's family in half (she has 6 siblings) Boon fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 14:58
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feedmyleg posted:I find the thought of my family mourning me on the day of my death for years and years and never getting over it incredibly sad. Who would want their family to live like that? No one, but at the same time you can't control how people grieve. It's your wants versus their emotional needs. Otherwise everyone's funeral would be a party.
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empty whippet box posted:My sister died in a car accident driving home from Christmas in 2013 and I don't have some event about it on that day every year. We celebrate her birthday, we remember her, but we don't have some big loving deal on the day she died. Other people can do what feels right to them to commemorate their loved ones but the fetishism of the date of their death seems unlikely to me to be welcomed by the families of 9/11 victims. Especially since it's such a naked, disgusting political ploy. Is this a hot take on the concept of memorials This thread continues to impress me with what it can come up with
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Boon posted:At the very least, 9/11 represents an inflection point in America and in history in general and that should be pondered. 9/11 represents the infection point
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We updated the Irma charities list (found here - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Um3j5mHkS7bR72Zc625qtQ0P1QRNCXPGtIMx7HWKNb), and we have some charities specifically for USVI and non mainland US. Here's what we've got right now - mostly this is a list of lists - and please let me know if we should add more quote:Charities
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Sep 11, 2017 15:02
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Also like... "remembering someone on the anniversary of their passing" and "never getting over it" are not the same thing. I'm not judging anyone who doesn't want to do it, and I personally prefer to do it with people I care about who are dead on what would have been their birthday, but I also understand if there's something (literally) huge about the way they died, it's hard not to think about them on the anniversary of that. Is there a less ghoulish form of remembrance of people who have died, or is the approved position is "they are dead, there is no point in thinking about dead people, they cannot provide emotional or physical utility, bury them in unmarked graves and move on, lest you be a real creep"?
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Sep 11, 2017 15:06
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BigglesSWE posted:Those firefighters were so brave, they walked right into those towers. The lying media wouldn't go up there, believe me! The fact that when I read this and others and think "Yeah, there's actually a possibility he'd say that" never ceases to amaze me.
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For me, 9/11 is one of those things that sticks out squarely in my early memory. I was only 5 at the time but I still remember everything that happened that morning. I'll always remember this day, in a totally unironic sense We're also crossing that plane where kids who are going to vote in 2018 will have no memory at all of the event. 2020 will feature those who remember it as that dumb thing we talk about every year in social studies/history
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