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if tim had any integrity or leadership he would delay the release of ios 11 and force the entire team to redesign it completely before firing them all (out of a cannon into the sun)
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qirex posted:still though, being not an apple employee and getting Genuinely Mad Online because of press conference spoilers is loving hilarious well, that and being an apple employee not in an upper management position and BGMO about it is pretty bad too
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like what are the actual negatives for apple of this being leaked? tech journo hot takes start on monday instead of tuesday?
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Plank Walker posted:like what are the actual negatives for apple of this being leaked? tech journo hot takes start on monday instead of tuesday? absolutely nothing other than some more reputational "apple can't keep a secret" biz or I guess chinese fakes coming out a little faster than before? it's too late for anyone to change what they're doing it's impossible to ramp up a supply chain to make 100 million of something without thousands of people being a part of it
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Sep 11, 2017 18:53
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Sep 11, 2017 18:59
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most likely a net positive for apple considering the amount of coverage discussing the leaks they get, the previous secrecy was more about jobs' ego than good business. note that there are no terribly solid leaks of the things apple don't do, images get scrubbed of the failing tv and imploded car, it is just the stuff where talking can turn into sales
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:samsung will poo poo out their own face thingy tonight that they wrote over the weekend and everyone will buy the new galaxy SX with S-face technology powered by the new 32-core tegraXL samsung already has a face thingy and it can be fooled by an image on another phone wasn't their fingerprint scanner storing pngs in a public directory?
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Sep 11, 2017 19:08
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Plank Walker posted:like what are the actual negatives for apple of this being leaked? tech journo hot takes start on monday instead of tuesday? More or less. A large presentation like this is going to get a buttload of publicity across pretty much every type of media and will probably be the first that a lot of people hear that Apple is even releasing something new. Controlling all the information available to the press gives Apple that the best chance of the message that the public receives is exactly what Apple wants it to be. Realistically it won't matter much because most of the press is just a PR machine that will parrot back what Apple says regardless. Plus none of the leaked information that I've read so far seems like it should hurt their narrative unless they thought they were going to get away with nobody realizing they won't have TouchId.
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Sep 11, 2017 19:18
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Plank Walker posted:like what are the actual negatives for apple of this being leaked? tech journo hot takes start on monday instead of tuesday? loss of respect by the industry for your internal security, for one why would you want to do business with a company if there's a distinct likelihood that your proprietary data will be stolen and leaked to competitors due to their laxity? loss of competitive edge for another why bother trying to fund your own r&d and development process if you can just wait for your competitor to leak and then take their work? also a tremendous display of incompetence on the part of leadership how can you trust that a company is being led competently if they can't ensure that their own employees and partners are properly motivated to secure internal data? or ensure there are consequences when they don't?
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Sep 11, 2017 19:19
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lol at putting trust in companies in the first place
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qirex posted:samsung already has a face thingy and it can be fooled by an image on another phone the latter was htc samsung's just required you to swipe your thumb for a generation or two
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open offices, open access GMs f u timb
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here's what happens with leaks. someone leaks the fact that apple is putting a fingerprint sensor on the phone. a million pundits, tech "journalists", forum posters etc violently agree that this has already been tried and that also it isn't very good or convenient or secure so clearly apple is stupid and this is a gimmick. then Apple releases product and does it well and it's the best in the industry instead of the garbage everyone was speculating on or was previously done. but for a couple of months everyone has been talking about how bad and dumb this is and now it's an uphill battle to convince people that it's good instead of just showing it to them. see also "a touchscreen phone", "a new connector", "Retina display", "NFC payments", "dual camera", etc.
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gosh then maybe it really is in tim's best interest to start cracking down on leaks instead of just letting them happen with a shrug and a mumbled "doubling down on security" platitude following a silly video skit steve literally had a person killed to punish a leak to prove he had no respect for human life, let alone programmer life
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i've been really impressed with how well apple pay works tbh i don't think it's ever not worked for me
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Stymie posted:gosh then maybe it really is in tim's best interest to start cracking down on leaks instead of just letting them happen with a shrug and a mumbled "doubling down on security" platitude following a silly video skit apple takes leaks and security very seriously. this gimmick is even dumber than your other one.
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Rex-Goliath posted:i've been really impressed with how well apple pay works tbh doesn't work in target or rite aid last i checked it's frustrating bc the only thing shower than paying with a chip reader is trying to pay quickly with your phone, waiting a few seconds to realize it doesn't work, and then waiting for the chip reader for your card
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Sep 11, 2017 21:10
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cis autodrag posted:apple takes leaks and security very seriously lol
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Stymie posted:steve literally had a person killed to punish a leak to prove he had no respect for human life, let alone programmer life is this some sort of story i don't know about or just this thread's private joke?
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go play outside Skyler posted:is this some sort of story i don't know about or just this thread's private joke? http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=8144291&page=1
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:doesn't work in target or rite aid last i checked it doesn't work there because these stores literally disabled their NFC readers because they hate their customers.
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cis autodrag posted:apple takes leaks and security very seriously. this gimmick is even dumber than your other one. You should see how much of a joke access to the big databases are.
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The Management posted:it doesn't work there because these stores literally disabled their NFC readers because they hate their customers. i know, but that doesn't make it less annoying when some subset of common stores refuses to let it work. not looking to janitor my payment methods here
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apple pay works at rite aid and walgreens. source: I have used it at both
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emoji posted:You should see how much of a joke access to the big databases are. when people tell me about conspiracy theories I just point to these huge tech giants like Apple and Microsoft and say "if these fuckers can't keep their poo poo together for minor stuff like a phone or a laptop, why would you think the government would be able to fake something like going to the moon"
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Sep 11, 2017 21:42
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when Apple Pay doesn't work just abandon your shopping cart in the middle of the checkout line and walk out of the store
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was this before or after they installed the suicide nets?
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also Apple Pay woks as a credit card condom when the knuckle-dragging IT staff at your shop of choice leave their servers' collective rear end hanging out in the open and somebody tries charging your cc for a 15 year subscription to Jock Strap Online. it's apple's problem so no updating cc numbers for you
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apple: good to the last drop
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:was this before or after they installed the suicide nets? what the gently caress do you think? e: thought the worker jumped out the factory window oops lol
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Ripoff posted:also Apple Pay woks as a credit card condom when the knuckle-dragging IT staff at your shop of choice leave their servers' collective rear end hanging out in the open and somebody tries charging your cc for a 15 year subscription to Jock Strap Online. it's apple's problem so no updating cc numbers for you lol
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https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/09/10/bbc-confirmation
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just don't answer the phone lol
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why was a build available to the public internet and not a set of whitelisted ips anyway?
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why was it even available outside of their internal vpn
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emoji posted:You should see how much of a joke access to the big databases are. the what now
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carry on then posted:the what now guessing their customer data and poo poo
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cinci zoo sniper posted:guessing their customer data and poo poo Yea
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