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timp posted:I remember in 10th grade my Algebra teacher started to explain this concept to us off of some tangent and began to draw the symbols that represent them on the board. I told her it looked like she was just making them up on the spot. There were lots of squiggly lines, but they weren't greek letters or anything recognizable like that. My 11th grade calculus teacher blew my mind by saying "If I took a bag and put in a red marble for all the reals and a blue marble for all the integers, what are the odds you would draw a blue marble? Zero" What the gently caress 
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Zaphod42 posted:My 11th grade calculus teacher blew my mind by saying "If I took a bag and put in a red marble for all the reals and a blue marble for all the integers, what are the odds you would draw a blue marble? Zero" I'll go ahead and double down on my banality: Don't think about it 
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maskenfreiheit posted:Like I said, there are infinite worlds with Rick and Mortys. But there is not infinite time to explore them all. Most likely each Rick ends up developing portal technology and coming across other Ricks, and over time you get a spiderweb of known Rick-having worlds. I-i-i-it's not that complicated guys. It's actually very complicated and counter intuitive to our brains evolution through throwing rocks at and stabbing each other with pointy sticks. Don't be surprised the dumdums in this thread can't stop thinking about it in circles. Zaphod42 posted:My 11th grade calculus teacher blew my mind by saying "If I took a bag and put in a red marble for all the reals and a blue marble for all the integers, what are the odds you would draw a blue marble? Zero" Don't think about blue marbles. MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Zaphod42 posted:My 11th grade calculus teacher blew my mind by saying "If I took a bag and put in a red marble for all the reals and a blue marble for all the integers, what are the odds you would draw a blue marble? Zero" I don't understand.
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Zaphod42 posted:My 11th grade calculus teacher blew my mind by saying "If I took a bag and put in a red marble for all the reals and a blue marble for all the integers, what are the odds you would draw a blue marble? Zero" It's kind of unfair to say that without going into the math, but yeah. Irrational numbers are uncountable. Basic idea is that imagine you could write a big list of all the irrational numbers between 0 and 1 in a list. Now we make another one, by choosing its tens digit to be something that's not the tens digit of the first thing on our list, the hundreds digit to be something that's not the hundreds digit of the second thing on the list.... and you choose the nth digit to not be the nth digit of the nth thing on the list. So the new number you just made is not any of the things on the list. Which means there are "more" irrational numbers than there are counting numbers. Like you can't put four things on a list of three, you can't put the irrational numbers on a list and get them all. In fact we CAN make a big list of all the integers and fractions, but not the irrationals. Has nothing to do with Rick and Morty, they do not have things thought deeply through and if they did it would be not fun to watch. But it's neat. Hemingway To Go! fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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ashpanash posted:Yeah but... Speculative Counter-point, the episode is named 'The Rickchurian Mortydate', which could either be the usual 'cram as many ricks and/or morties in the episode title' or a literal suggestion of Rick having a 'Morty Date' with president shitheel. Honestly if the toss up is 'Rick meets evil president morty' and 'keith david returns as the wicked president' I don't really care if I am wrong OR right, it's going to be good either way. a cock shaped fruit fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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empty whippet box posted:That doesn't make any sense, if there are infinite world then by definition there are infinite ricks and morties. Infinity on this side_________________First world to produce a RIck and a Morty ———————————— ALL WORLDS THAT PRODUCE RICKS AND MORTIES ————————————— Last world to Produce a RIck and a Morty_____________________________________Infinity on this side too. That's the central finite curve, again, with the caveat that some border worlds produce Ricks and Morties so unlike our RIcks and Morties that they don't really count to the citadel. Beyond that, there'd be another border of realities that don't produce Ricks or Morties at all. That's why it's a finite curve. Within the infinite universes, there are a limited number of universes close enough to our own to produce Ricks and Morties. That number, however, could be functionally infinite in the way that .99999999999999=1, but now we get into the difference between linguistics and mathematics. Mathematically, .99999999999999 totally equals one, but linguistically, it doesn't, and linguists will argue one way, and mathematicians will argue the other, and they'll both be right from within their own framework. Then you have to consider that even infinity is a linguistic construct, and that if every decision ever made is when universes branch, there are a finite number of decisions that could ever be made, even if the number is so inconceivable as to appear infinite, but it wouldn't truly be infinite, because it would be quantifiable to a being with enough time and distance and energy to discern. Long story short, none of this matters, beyond how fun it is to think about.
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Except Rick himself says that he has 'infinite grandkids'
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You wrote a bunch of stuff, but all I saw is thisLividLiquid posted:Did Butt World produce a Rick and a Morty? and now I believe there is a fart rick and fart morty on that world.
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The marble thought experiment breaks down because you couldn't represent the reals as a pile of discrete objects.
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Sep 12, 2017 03:41
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So if I have absolutely no problem imagining Infinity does that mean... What? All of you are talking about this like it's some sort of impossible thing to comprehend and it seems painfully obvious. I can assure you I'm not particularly smart and I'm certainly not good at math. People are weird.
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Just noticed, in the morty campaign headquarters, on the whiteboard, it says "Morty advantages" and then: -alternative news sources -divided citadel that plus five ricks...yeah, evil morty is trump. Also, big morty calls bad cop morty 'bubbaluh.........bubbalubbadubdub? I dunno, I just wonder where that came from. empty whippet box fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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empty whippet box posted:Except Rick himself says that he has 'infinite grandkids' LividLIquid posted:Then you have to consider that even infinity is a linguistic construct, and that if every decision ever made is when universes branch, there are a finite number of decisions that could ever be made, even if the number is so inconceivable as to appear infinite, but it wouldn't truly be infinite, because it would be quantifiable to a being with enough time and distance and energy to discern.
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Holy moly that was a great episode They managed to satisfy fan servicey stuff like going back to the Citadel and bringing back Evil Morty without it coming across as fan servicey and it actually was hilarious AND poignant
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LividLiquid posted:Did Butt World produce a Rick and a Morty? IDK but the intro stinger where Morty is watching porn with people who have faces on their butts and he has a butt for a face and his mom busts in with her butt face and he hides his laptop is hilarious. Voltraine posted:The marble thought experiment breaks down because you couldn't represent the reals as a pile of discrete objects. Its true. But its still a fun way to cook your noodle for a second, and helps wrap your head around the idea of cardinality.
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I'm just sayin'. We've been told there's a finite curve. Which means infinity exists outside of what is explicitly called finite.
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The central finite curve isn't that complicated. Here it is graphed out:
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Grem posted:Oh man "People are gonna blame this kisser for everything". Yeah tons of people are saying Evil Morty is Trump but its reading it wrong. Evil Morty isn't a right wing populist, he's a slick technocrat liberal who stresses unity and progress while actually not all that committed to it. I love how they managed to recreate capitalism within the Citadel and apparent infinite free resources: create a scarcity by rationing the portal gun
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The newscaster Ricks who kept getting more hosed up needed one more to be a great gag.
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I know it's just a dumb cartoon, and I should really just relax, but I think there are all kinds of interesting things to think about after this episode. The citadel has so many layers. it seems like there are Ricks and Mortys out there who live normal lives and don't normally interact with the others. This is our Rick and Morty. Morty seems to be an outlier where he had no idea there were other mortys out there at first. Then there are the Ricks and Mortys who go to the Citadel sometimes, but just to visit. This is all we've seen previously. The Citadel appeared to just be a big hub where Ricks could come and go without having to deal with the rest of the universe. Then there are the Ricks and Mortys who have no where else to go. These ones show up on the Citadel with nothing left, they are stripped of their portal guns and turned into cogs in the Rick machine. I can see how the Citadel could be an example of late stage capitalism, where there's really no excuse for people to be forced into these manual labor jobs. 99% of Ricks are equal to all the other Ricks. There are definitely plenty of resources to go around if they were able to build this giant citadel. Despite all that, the most powerful Ricks still subjugate weaker Ricks for no reason, but to have more power and be at the top. You even see this with the council. We thought the Council of Ricks was the be all end all of the Rick power structure, but it turns out even they are controlled by these other Ricks who need power so much that they subjugated the council the runs the whole citadel. It's really hosed up, because the Ricks are all pretty much identical. Whenever a Rick gets surrounded, he always goes off on a big monologue about how he is the Rickest Rick Where all the mortys came from would be interesting. Since that one Rick was working at that factory for 15 years, the Citadel has definitely been running for longer than Morty has been alive. Perhaps when Beths started having Mortys and Ricks started bringing these Mortys to the Citadel, they started collecting some of them who had no where else to go as second class citizens. The lower class Ricks were tired of being stomped on, so the Ricks gave them Mortys so they could feel like they were better even though they were still at the bottom of society. While a Rick is stuck in some lame assembly line despite being a genius who should be back on Earth as a super scientist, he can still look at Morty town and think he doesn't really have it so bad. There are so many layers to the Citadel. I'm amazed that Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland were able to pull off something like that.
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PostNouveau posted:The newscaster Ricks who kept getting more hosed up needed one more to be a great gag. I don't know, the dismissive "that loving guy" exchange was just enough for me, I feel rick 716-D would have just been overkill
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PostNouveau posted:The newscaster Ricks who kept getting more hosed up needed one more to be a great gag. Rule of three, dawg!
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I know it would spoil the gag if they revealed it, but I kept wondering what happened to the newscasters' universes.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Has anyone thought that perhaps Evil Morty is a clean Morty that never got his toxins back? I thought that too. He was acting a lot like Clean Morty, which may be one of the reasons behind that episode: to show that Morty getting too confident leads him onto a path where he wants more and more power/money. Inspector Gesicht posted:Would Clean-Morty and Evil-Morty get along since they both lack empathy? I don't think Clean Morty lacks empathy, rather that he's too into overdrive positivism that he becomes overbearing and overconfident.
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Mike N Eich posted:Yeah tons of people are saying Evil Morty is Trump but its reading it wrong. Evil Morty isn't a right wing populist, he's a slick technocrat liberal who stresses unity and progress while actually not all that committed to it. Obama wasn't evil tho
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empty whippet box posted:Also, big morty calls bad cop morty 'bubbaluh.........bubbalubbadubdub? I dunno, I just wonder where that came from. "Bubala" is a Yiddish term for endearment like "honey" or "sweetie".
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Dexo posted:Turn leeeeeeft I'm Political Rickkkkkkk
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Probably Infected posted:"Bubala" is a Yiddish term for endearment like "honey" or "sweetie". Oooooh. Thanks for clearing that up, that went right over my head.
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timp posted:I remember in 10th grade my Algebra teacher started to explain this concept to us off of some tangent and began to draw the symbols that represent them on the board. I told her it looked like she was just making them up on the spot. There were lots of squiggly lines, but they weren't greek letters or anything recognizable like that. Those squiggly symbols represent the Aleph numbers. https://youtu.be/SrU9YDoXE88 Just like how forward/backwards (or up/down) in the next higher dimension are referred to as eka/kata despite the fact that there's no way for us to move or experiment in those defined directions.
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Eifert Posting posted:Yeah, my first thought was that Morty would win in a landslide and then my second thought was "do Mortys get a vote?" Of course. 3/5 of a vote
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Of course. 3/5 of a vote That's some *burp* quality Morty-posting there. Hemingway To Go! posted:It's kind of unfair to say that without going into the math, but yeah. Irrational numbers are uncountable. If you actually care, the explanation is in this short and readable (if your IQ is north of 145) book: https://www.amazon.com/Numbers-Games-John-H-Conway/dp/1568811276 "Originally written to define the relation between the theories of transfinite numbers and mathematical games, the resulting work is a mathematically sophisticated but eminently enjoyable guide to game theory." User fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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CelticPredator posted:Obama wasn't evil tho Sure man, sure. e: I mean, not in the Trump way, but in an Evil Morty bait and switch oh you want a progressive now you have to buy a policy from an insurance company way. Grem fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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I'm glad nerd Morty got elected as a Texas senator
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Presented without comment. How'd they get Richard Stallman to make a cameo?
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Those RC car videos are more real than you think. The office is a crazy place where ~anytthinggg~ can happen. Also I met H3H3 at the premiere party and they are so freaking nice and sincere in real life. Ethan gave me a big hug and Every one got pictures with both of them. Good times were had by all.
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Ethan and Hilla seem genuine as hell. I've seen a few but I didn't really watch them too much until their collabs with iDubbbztv.
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LividLiquid posted:but now we get into the difference between linguistics and mathematics. Mathematically, .99999999999999 totally equals one, but linguistically, it doesn't, and linguists will argue one way, and mathematicians will argue the other, and they'll both be right from within their own framework. 0.99.. (you kinda need the "...") is equal to 1 for both mathematicians and linguists. It's two ways of representing the same thing, linguists know that because they know the concept of synonymous words. I don't think I'm getting what you're trying to say, different strings of characters can be attached to the same meaning. And you still have situations like "blue" and "azul" that are the same thing, but in different languages. Miss Mowcher fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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