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The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Pembroke Fuse posted:

Nah, I definitely support socialists... but I also support the idea of getting poo poo done. Bernie isn't getting anything done

he literally just got 2/3 of the 2020 democratic primary to go on record supporting medicare for all




Hellblazer187 posted:

I think "go after white working class!" vs "ignore the white working class, go totally urban!" is a ridiculous false dichotomy.

it is and that's why i brought up rev barber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUEmUVWd38

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Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

Your Boy Fancy posted:

Hey, did you know there is an election this year?

If you live in New Jersey, you get to toss Chris Christie on his big fat duff. That's pretty cool. You also get to vote for which Democrat you like best, probably. But I don't know a lot about that. I come from Virginia. And Virginia is a crazy microcosm of American politics, so everyone is looking at it.

We're voting for our governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general and House of Delegates. The HoD is gonna be a mess, since you have NoVA, where all the defense contractors and well to do folk live and vote en masse, vs the rest of the state, which is a combination of ideologues in the exurbs and the Third World America that is the southwest panhandle. Republicans will outnumber Democrats, probably, and they'll breed such amazing things as transvaginal ultrasounds and writing right-to-work into the Gospel of Matthew. Because of the population and voting advantage of the north, however, the executive branch is very much in play. After 2013, where famous Hawaiian shirt wearing and whiskey swilling on national television snake oil salesman Terry McAulliffe turned out to be a surprisingly effective governor, the GOP doesn't have terribly much hope of taking back the mansion. They barely got Ed Gillespie, a really rather boring man, past Corey Stewart, actual Neo Nazi. Gillespie faces current lieutenant governor Dr. Ralph Northam, who's also a boring man.

If you live in the general vicinity of Northern Virginia, hit me up on PM's. I'm gonna need help getting people interested in a drama-less but vital race. The left needs to know we can win fights in the age of Trump, and I'm gonna spend the next eight weeks pounding on doors to say Yes Virginia, There Is An Election, Now Vote You loving Prick.

This poo poo is what matters. Gotta fight for your own Street.

Meanwhile in Colorado Springs (oh god kill me) we get to vote on....a proposal to assess a floodwater fee or somesuch. :effort:

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Moktaro posted:

Meanwhile in Colorado Springs (oh god kill me) we get to vote on....a proposal to assess a floodwater fee or somesuch. :effort:

Colorado Springs is basically the AFA and a bunch of mega churches, right?

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
this belongs here more than it belongs in trump thread


official ted cruz twitter liked a porno video on twitter

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

empty whippet box posted:

this belongs here more than it belongs in trump thread


official ted cruz twitter liked a porno video on twitter

He's studying the art of boning to better mimick humanity.

John Henry Miller
Sep 11, 2017

by Smythe

empty whippet box posted:

this belongs here more than it belongs in trump thread


official ted cruz twitter liked a porno video on twitter

Lying Ted Cruz also frequented the DC Madam. The mainstream media dropped it because they thought he could beat Trump.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Mustached Demon posted:

He's studying the art of boning to better mimick humanity.

Oh god he's melting, how?!

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/907390573941846016

MFA went from "pie in the sky" to a litmus test for Dems in just a few months thanks to leftists. Next up needs to be $15 Min Wage.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Scent of Worf posted:

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/907390573941846016

MFA went from "pie in the sky" to a litmus test for Dems in just a few months thanks to leftists. Next up needs to be $15 Min Wage.

$18 imo let's just go for not being broke

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

empty whippet box posted:

$18 imo let's just go for not being broke

I remember reading somewhere that if minimum wage was tied to inflation and productivity, it would be around d 21.00 an hour. Its late and I don't want to find my source.

I'd rather UBI at something like 20k/year to everyone making 100k or less. Minimum wage is good as well, and 18-21 is a good target.

Let's do both.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

This liberals content with tying it to inflation.

gently caress being content $21s the base talking points now you fuckers.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
gently caress stopping at the minimum wage, we need a maximum income limit too.

John Henry Miller
Sep 11, 2017

by Smythe
gently caress a maximum income limit. Communists want a maximum wage so everyone can be equally poor.

Except for Party members, of course. Some people are more equal than others.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Tax 90% if over 100k of area median, problem solved.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

John Henry Miller posted:

gently caress a maximum income limit. Communists want a maximum wage so everyone can be equally poor.

Except for Party members, of course. Some people are more equal than others.

you're not even a funny gimmick, or clever, and you're super obvious

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

empty whippet box posted:

gently caress stopping at the minimum wage, we need a maximum income limit too.

Fiscal policy not being zero sum goes both ways.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

I remember reading somewhere that if minimum wage was tied to inflation and productivity, it would be around d 21.00 an hour. Its late and I don't want to find my source.

I'd rather UBI at something like 20k/year to everyone making 100k or less. Minimum wage is good as well, and 18-21 is a good target.

Let's do both.

Something like a UBI should never be means tested. Recapture it at the upper end through taxes.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Paradoxish posted:

Something like a UBI should never be means tested. Recapture it at the upper end through taxes.

Sounds wonderful. What, like a 90% rate for 5 million and above? Let's try and drive a wedge between the people that think they are rich and the people that are truely rich.

A restructuring of the income tax brackets is something that could really help the income inequality issue. Not like we don't need the revenue for UBI and MFA.

Weird question, how would you feel about subsided minimum wage. Give some wage assistance to small companies that aren't publicly owned. If you're big enough to be public you can pay the God drat minimum on your own.

Thoughts?

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Sounds wonderful. What, like a 90% rate for 5 million and above? Let's try and drive a wedge between the people that think they are rich and the people that are truely rich.

A restructuring of the income tax brackets is something that could really help the income inequality issue. Not like we don't need the revenue for UBI and MFA.

Weird question, how would you feel about subsided minimum wage. Give some wage assistance to small companies that aren't publicly owned. If you're big enough to be public you can pay the God drat minimum on your own.

Thoughts?

Socialism for all who pay taxes. Businesses and People alike.

Infrastructure, bread and circuses!

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:


Weird question, how would you feel about subsided minimum wage. Give some wage assistance to small companies that aren't publicly owned. If you're big enough to be public you can pay the God drat minimum on your own.

Thoughts?

I'd be ok with truly small businesses getting wage support if they need it per application process like any other program. gently caress franchises though.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
If we're talking pie-in-the-sky here, you'd probably want something like that to be paired with guaranteed employment legislation. Provide an absolute guarantee of meaningful (ie, something that provides useful skills/experience and that won't just look like a black mark on a resume) employment to anyone who wants it at a good wage. Employ those people in either government jobs or with businesses working with the government and meeting certain standards. Subsidize wages for businesses in the program if the businesses meet whatever criteria you want to use to define them as a "small business."

Also you then get to watch the bottom rung of employers completely implode since they won't have a shot in hell of competing for low-end labor anymore.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Paradoxish posted:

If we're talking pie-in-the-sky here, you'd probably want something like that to be paired with guaranteed employment legislation. Provide an absolute guarantee of meaningful (ie, something that provides useful skills/experience and that won't just look like a black mark on a resume) employment to anyone who wants it at a good wage. Employ those people in either government jobs or with businesses working with the government and meeting certain standards. Subsidize wages for businesses in the program if the businesses meet whatever criteria you want to use to define them as a "small business."

It doesn't even need to be this onerous, imagine if all recreation programs could afford to pay their coaches and maintenance people.

Hell I could put literally everyone to work if you gave me a sustainable budget for it.

RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Sep 12, 2017

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

empty whippet box posted:

this belongs here more than it belongs in trump thread


official ted cruz twitter liked a porno video on twitter

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

empty whippet box posted:

this belongs here more than it belongs in trump thread


official ted cruz twitter liked a porno video on twitter

Is this going to be very dramatic tomorrow?

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

WrenP-Complete posted:

Is this going to be very dramatic tomorrow?

loving hope it is.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/720259227067920385

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016


USPol: I believe we can come together. We have to.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

RuanGacho posted:

The rich are not our friends unless they're willing to stop being rich for the good of the republic.

:yeah:

:thermidor:

seriously

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

nah.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/EMlNEMOBAMA/status/907467017325871104

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/712850174838771712

He knew.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/907470879851819008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

:smithfrog:

Fake edit: I don't know how Ted Cruz thinks the "actually I was showing my wife" excuse will actually fly excepting for the notion that he thinks Republicans are comically gullible.

Given that Ted "People don't have the right to stimulate their genitals" Cruz and the rest of Christian conservatism are living one massive puritanical lifestyle lie, I can understand how someone like Cruz can convince himself that others really believe he's some kind of saint.

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Sep 12, 2017

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


I was really betting on the excuse "My media intern messed up, please, he is young, don't harangue him too much." That's at least remotely believable. This whole "I googled 'porn' for my wife and this is definitely one of the first results" is bull if you think of it even a little.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Potato Salad posted:

I was really betting on the excuse "My media intern messed up, please, he is young, don't harangue him too much." That's at least remotely believable. This whole "I googled 'porn' for my wife and this is definitely one of the first results" is bull if you think of it even a little.

That's a parody response tweet

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Potato Salad posted:

Fake edit: I don't know how Ted Cruz thinks the "actually I was showing my wife" excuse will actually fly excepting for the notion that he thinks Republicans are comically gullible.

Speaking of "comically gullible"...

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


when will paul ryan tweet his favorite hentai to the world?

Old James
Nov 20, 2003

Wait a sec. I don't know an Old James!

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

That's a parody response tweet

The original it is parodying
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/872859236434403328

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

This past week and today have had a wave of potential congressional retirements.

Many of them are in safe seats, but the less incumbency there is in 2018 the more uncertain the results could be.

Following up on this:
Republicans Fear Flood of Centrist Retirements ahead of 2018 Elections

Conservative Shitrag Washington Examiner posted:

Republicans have a 24-seat majority in the House. This includes 23 Republican-held districts Clinton won in the presidential election and 40 where Trump received less than 50 percent of the vote.
[...]
"I'm afraid that this trickle is going to turn into a flood of moderate Republicans retiring because they don't want to have to defend Trump and deal with their far right colleagues anymore," said a GOP strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly. "It's got to be exhausting and civilian life looks pretty good."
[...]
In addition to policy disagreements, many centrists complained they were being asked to take bigger political risks than their more conservative colleagues who generally represented safer, more Republican districts. One Republican operative lamented members from marginal districts being asked to "walk the plank" on bills conservatives with safe seats were voting against.
[...]
For these reasons, Republican sources say they don't expect Dent to be the last centrist or swing-district GOP lawmaker to retire over the next two years. "We're lucky, frankly, more haven't already," said a Republican strategist advising centrist candidates, speaking on condition of anonymity.
As with pre-WaPo Costa, most of the best sources stay behind enemy lines, but the paper's clear slant makes for a few interesting notes:
A: Primary threats aren't alluded to anywhere in the article. Indication that the establishment may be pushing back on the fringe, hoping that reminding them of the risks will keep them from beating up swing-district incumbents. Ron Howard voice: It won't.
B: They're still sore over the Healthcare Drama. This one's a shot at Ryan and the whip-it can't be lost on him that every retirement thus far is one of his Speaker votes. Even if they retain majority, losing just 15 centrists may be enough to cost him his gavel.
C: Not quoted, but the retiring Ileana Ros-Lehtinen won her district by 9 despite Clinton taking it by nearly 20. That's insane.

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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


poo poo, shoulda known since it didn't have a Verrit code.

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