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neongrey: Feb 28, 2007; Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

Don't confuse knowledge with caring! :v:

Huge amount of women writing fanfic, from their mid twenties to late thirties, and lot of whom have kids.

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# ? May 9, 2024 05:29

Brass Key: Sep 15, 2007; Attention! Something tremendous has happened!

neongrey posted:

Don't confuse knowledge with caring! Huge amount of women writing fanfic, from their mid twenties to late thirties, and lot of whom have kids.

Yeah but the 35 year olds are generally good (or at least better) at it because they've been writing since they were dumb teens waxing rhapsodic about emerald orbs and bluenette hair.

Speaking of fanfic, everyone knows that the author of My Immortal was revealed the other week, right?

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In the early 2000s, Rose Christo was separated from her five-year-old brother and shuttled between foster homes in Brooklyn to the Bronx and back again. Desperate to be reunited with her sibling, she traveled the five boroughs, unable to find any trace of him, as New York State�s child care agencies failed to help her time and again.

Then, with the help of one beloved foster sister, Rose created an infamous piece of Harry Potter fanfiction titled My Immortal, posting it online under the pseudonym XXXbloodyrists666XXX. The �44 chapters and 22,000 words of hysterical, typo-laden hyperbole� went viral as the most notoriously terrible fanfic ever read by the community. For years, fans, writers, and editors researched, debated, and contested the story�s origin and its mysterious author: Was this grammatically challenged rant actually written by a suicidal goth teenager named Tara Gilesbe living in Dubai, or was this a hoax perpetrated by a group of professional authors making fun of fanfiction?

The truth is a gripping, compelling, and surprisingly funny story of how a young girl infiltrated and used the fanfiction community to search for her brother by baiting their attention with a deliberately badly written tale, creating a 10-year mystery that garnered pop culture media attention and remained unsolved � until now.

In her first official author's statement, in the form of a Q&A, Christo says she never would have come forward about authoring My Immortal "if not for the fact that it coincided with the things that happened to [her] as a teen."

1. What is Under the Same Stars?

Under the Same Stars is a memoir about my experiences in foster care and family court, which saw me separated from my little brother when I was 12 and he was 5. It's about the steps I took to try to find him again, and what I wound up finding instead.

2. Why did you write Under the Same Stars?

I wanted to shed light on the challenges and issues that children in foster care, especially Native American children, face.

3. Did you write My Immortal?

Unfortunately.

4. Why come forward about My Immortal now?

I would never have come forward about My Immortal if not for the fact that it coincided with the things that happened to me as a teen. At one point, I considered disguising the fic as something else. I still wonder if I should have done that, because there's a faction of people who really like not knowing who wrote it. But I think in most cases, honesty is the best policy.

5. Tell us more!

In Alaska, it's illegal to whisper in someone's ear if they're moose hunting.

Christo's author bio says she's "a member of the Cree and Lenape tribes." On her Tumblr, she says she was "15 going on 16" when she published My Immortal with someone she identifies as "Raven." The now 27-year-old Christo alleges part of the reason why she was placed in foster care is that she was put in child pornography.

She notes that when she and "Raven" first started writing the fic, they were doing so "on the school computer" using "a $5 flash drive from Best Buy." She also says that the publisher verified her identity and her claims in a three-day vetting process that dived deep into her past.
The reveal comes about two weeks after Tiffany Shelton, an editorial assistant at Wednesday Books, said the publisher had "a book with the girl who wrote My Immortal." And some internet sleuthing from Tumblr user pipistrella led to Christo.

Christo responded to the rumors via her Tumblr, which has since been updated to say that, "yeah," she is one of the authors of My Immortal.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 07:49

neongrey: Feb 28, 2007; Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

Brass Key posted:

Yeah but the 35 year olds are generally good (or at least better) at it because they've been writing since they were dumb teens waxing rhapsodic about emerald orbs and bluenette hair.

Ahahahaahahaahahahaahahaahahahahaahahahaahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaaha

I wish. I've had to do a ton of smiling and nodding.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 07:57

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Last Thursday? How did I miss that?

# ? Sep 12, 2017 07:57

Tiggum: Oct 24, 2007; Your life and your quest end here.

Sandra Hill posted:

�As Hilda�s buttermilk bosoms squished up against his granite abs, Torolf almost had a dick aneurysm.�

�Torolf entered her like she was a lottery. His engorged pecker pushed inside her and she felt fulfilled with sexual fulfillment.�

�Her body was like a beautiful flower that was opening and somebody was pushing their dick inside it.�

She's written a ton of stuff and I'm tempted to see if it's all this funny, but the prices are just slightly above my limit for something I expect to be bad. Those quotes are brilliant though.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 09:46

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Tiggum posted:

She's written a ton of stuff and I'm tempted to see if it's all this funny, but the prices are just slightly above my limit for something I expect to be bad. Those quotes are brilliant though.

You wouldn't pay $4.99 for The Very Virile Viking? :frogout:

# ? Sep 12, 2017 10:24

nonathlon: Jul 9, 2004; And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

SiKboy posted:

There is no loving way anyone writes "Torolf entered her like she was a lottery." in a supposedly erotic context and expects it to be taken seriously, that has to be a parody. And �Her body was like a beautiful flower that was opening and somebody was pushing their dick inside it.� is quite literally one of the funniest things I've read, possibly ever.

Yeah, there's a bunch of other obviously joke lines (from memory, "the sound of Torolf's abs galloping into the distance" decided it for me) such that it must be a parody. albeit an astonishingly extended one. What's her other work look like?

# ? Sep 12, 2017 10:30

SiKboy: Oct 28, 2007; Oh no!😱

Brass Key posted:

Yeah but the 35 year olds are generally good (or at least better) at it because they've been writing since they were dumb teens waxing rhapsodic about emerald orbs and bluenette hair.

Its totally possible to do the same thing over and over for years and not get any better at it, especially if you absolutely refuse to take on board any negative feedback or criticism, and only really deal with an echo chamber of people who reinforce the exact thing you are doing.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 16:43

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Also communities shape norms. Stories you write tend to resemble the kinds of stories you're reading. If all you're consuming is bad fanfic, you're going to pick up a lot of those habits.

Its why trying to read older novels from pre 1900 can be rough for a modern reader. The norms are incredibly different and it scans completely 'wrong' compared to more modern novel. Or why various genre fiction tends to develop weird or bad trends

# ? Sep 12, 2017 17:17

I brought my Drake: Jul 10, 2014; These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

Tiggum posted:

She's written a ton of stuff and I'm tempted to see if it's all this funny, but the prices are just slightly above my limit for something I expect to be bad. Those quotes are brilliant though.

A public library should have it. My podunk one does--and in large print no less.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 17:42

Ellie Crabcakes: Feb 1, 2008; Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

SiKboy posted:

Its totally possible to do the same thing over and over for years and not get any better at it

Like my posting.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:55

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

The_White_Crane posted:

Yeah. It's much easier to take the piss out of M'tar-qlzt, WARRIOUR OF �ARN and his dwarven gunchucks (they're two guns joined together with a length of chain, you see)

I'm extremely disappointed that "dwarven gunchucks" isn't two dwarves with guns joined together with a length of chain

# ? Sep 12, 2017 20:59

John Lee: Mar 2, 2013; A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Update on THE BEAR KINGDOM TRILOGY: BOOK ONE: THE HOWLING TOWER:

I downloaded it onto my Kindle, and left it in the living room while I slept. My roommate read the whole thing while I was in bed, and says it is "really bad." This bodes well!

# ? Sep 12, 2017 22:46

Senior Woodchuck: Aug 29, 2006; When you're lost out there and you're all alone, a light is waiting to carry you home

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Charles and Sarah are a typical New York creative class couple -- he's in finance, she works at a hipster small press, yet both are indie-rock East Village veterans who aren't above snorting a little heroin on the weekends. But when they decide to take the logical next step and buy a condo in one of the glass-and-steel skyscrapers now dotting the waterfront of Williamsburg, their lives start to fall apart almost the moment after they sign their mortgage; and this is to say nothing of their creepy neighbors, their possibly haunted apartment, job crises in both their industries, and former friends still in Manhattan who are determined to pull them back into the debauchery. A touching ode to the a--holes ruining Brooklyn, this literary debut of "the Snake Person John Updike" is a funny yet wistful dramedy about young urban life during the Time of Shedding and Cold Rocks, and you do not need to be a New Yorker yourself to enjoy his smart insights about city living and growing older...although that certainly doesn't hurt.

I'm confident I speak for all New Yorkers when I say: gently caress Charles and Sarah.

Also: *Snorting* heroin?

# ? Sep 13, 2017 00:14

lifg: Dec 4, 2000; <this tag left blank>; Muldoon

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Charles and Sarah are a typical New York creative class couple -- he's in finance, she works at a hipster small press, yet both are indie-rock East Village veterans who aren't above snorting a little heroin on the weekends. But when they decide to take the logical next step and buy a condo in one of the glass-and-steel skyscrapers now dotting the waterfront of Williamsburg, their lives start to fall apart almost the moment after they sign their mortgage; and this is to say nothing of their creepy neighbors, their possibly haunted apartment, job crises in both their industries, and former friends still in Manhattan who are determined to pull them back into the debauchery. A touching ode to the a--holes ruining Brooklyn, this literary debut of "the Millennial John Updike" is a funny yet wistful dramedy about young urban life during the Great Recession, and you do not need to be a New Yorker yourself to enjoy his smart insights about city living and growing older...although that certainly doesn't hurt.

... is this from a real book?

# ? Sep 13, 2017 00:28

The Vosgian Beast: Aug 13, 2011; Business is slow

lifg posted:

... is this from a real book?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015NFI1UW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Never mind the avatar, I told a guy he shouldn't call things "retarded" and he got very cross with me

# ? Sep 13, 2017 00:37

A Pinball Wizard: Mar 23, 2005; I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands; College Slice

The Vosgian Beast posted:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015NFI1UW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Never mind the avatar, I told a guy he shouldn't call things "retarded" and he got very cross with me

what a retard

# ? Sep 13, 2017 00:47

lifg: Dec 4, 2000; <this tag left blank>; Muldoon

The Vosgian Beast posted:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015NFI1UW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Never mind the avatar, I told a guy he shouldn't call things "retarded" and he got very cross with me

Oh my god I love this review.

certainly not the author's writing group buddy posted:

The writing in this book, on a sentence by sentence level, is superb and beautiful and really carries the weight of the novel. The characters, sketches of malaise-filled Millenials, are complex and dark, filled with the deep problems of purposelessness. I felt refreshed by the writing, despite the Kafkaesque, yet quotidian nature of the story.

# ? Sep 13, 2017 01:37

Stupid_Sexy_Flander: Mar 14, 2007; Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?; Grimey Drawer

But is there avocado toast?

# ? Sep 13, 2017 01:53

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

quote:

★★★★☆ Daniel Falatko's debut novel is a compelling and disturbing read ...
By ManagedDecline on May 20, 2016
Format: Paperback

Daniel Falatko's debut novel is a compelling and disturbing read. Touches of Updike? Sure, perhaps in the nuanced dissection of a relationship tossed around in the currents of its era's socio-economics and culture. But rather than Rabbit grappling with the burgeoning sexual freedoms and consumerism of his time, Condominium sees lost hipster children playing at being grown-ups as they struggle to tessellate the counter-culture ideals of the 60s and beyond with the Gordon Gecko individualism of the 80s. In the cracks that inevitably between the two, Ballardian psychic disturbances begin to fester. The self-loathing of the mortgage slave grows into physical revulsion - echoes of Polanski's Repulsion - at the luxury prison in which our self-proclaimed "creative class couple" find they have incarcerated themselves. As it all falls apart, even the totemic luxury kitchen appliances start to turn against them�

That's the only product review by this user. :thunk:

ed: "Gordon Gecko"

# ? Sep 13, 2017 02:49

someone awful.: Sep 7, 2007

"totemic luxury kitchen appliances"

# ? Sep 13, 2017 02:51

A Pinball Wizard: Mar 23, 2005; I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands; College Slice

someone awful. posted:

"totemic luxury kitchen appliances"

These penis euphemisms are getting out of hand!

# ? Sep 13, 2017 02:55

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

lifg posted:

Oh my god I love this review.

quote:

...despite the Kafkaesque, yet quotidian nature of the...

"Ma'am, no meat touching, please"

# ? Sep 13, 2017 02:58

Dr Jankenstein: Aug 6, 2009; Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

https://www.amazon.com/Preacher-Mountain-Caesar-William-Johnstone/dp/0821751441

Preacher and the Mountain Cesar.

I'd read some of the other preacher books and they are decent western romps. Nothing too challenging. So I picked this up for free, and paid way too much for it.

This one though suffers from "post herbert dune" syndrome. Features an incestual hillbilly family, and a crazy guy who thinks the best place to rebuild Rome is in the middle of the mountains. Like straight down to gladiator games, and his 12 year old son is a sadist who gets off on people dying. Like actually gets off. As a12 year old.

I literally could not stop reading it because every page just got worse.

# ? Sep 13, 2017 02:58

Ninurta: Sep 19, 2007; What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

AA is for Quitters posted:

https://www.amazon.com/Preacher-Mountain-Caesar-William-Johnstone/dp/0821751441

Preacher and the Mountain Cesar.

I'd read some of the other preacher books and they are decent western romps. Nothing too challenging. So I picked this up for free, and paid way too much for it.

This one though suffers from "post herbert dune" syndrome. Features an incestual hillbilly family, and a crazy guy who thinks the best place to rebuild Rome is in the middle of the mountains. Like straight down to gladiator games, and his 12 year old son is a sadist who gets off on people dying. Like actually gets off. As a12 year old.

I literally could not stop reading it because every page just got worse.

Thank you for your...input?

# ? Sep 13, 2017 04:53

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Jew it to it! posted:

Thank you for your...input?

What a weirdo, posting a terrible book in the terrible book thread.

# ? Sep 13, 2017 06:34

Alaois: Feb 7, 2012

Sham bam bamina! posted:

What a weirdo, posting a terrible book in the terrible book thread.

this is man who gets angry when Ready Player One and The Dresden Files are attacked in this thread

# ? Sep 13, 2017 06:37

Tiggum: Oct 24, 2007; Your life and your quest end here.

queserasera posted:

A public library should have it. My podunk one does--and in large print no less.

The local library here is basically worthless when it comes to fiction. They do have some, but it's a really small selection and I've never found anything I was actually looking for there.

# ? Sep 13, 2017 08:15

well why not: Feb 10, 2009

Senior Woodchuck posted:

I'm confident I speak for all New Yorkers when I say: gently caress Charles and Sarah.

Also: *Snorting* heroin?

yeah people do, but it's kinda a bit passe. I read a book about the pro surfer, Michael Peterson, and it goes into pretty deep detail about how he was a huge heroin addict, but petrified of needles - so he'd 'litres of the stuff' off of plates .

well why not has a new favorite as of 10:00 on Sep 13, 2017

# ? Sep 13, 2017 09:56

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

Andy Warhol always insisted he never did cocaine.

...because he would dip his finger in it and rub it on his gums and that's not how you do cocaine.

# ? Sep 13, 2017 21:46

TenCentFang: Sep 5, 2017; by Nyc_Tattoo

Sham bam bamina! posted:

That's the only product review by this user.

ed: "Gordon Gecko"

This feels like something Patrick Bateman would write.

# ? Sep 13, 2017 22:47

the old ceremony: Aug 1, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

a magical moment in the book barn

HIJK posted:

I can understand wanting cheap hackery, I used to watch Stargate SG1 religiously. There's nothing wrong with liking that stuff...what baffles me is how people delude themselves into thinking Rothfuss or people like him are good writers. Because they're not. I had an ex boyfriend who recommended the Rothfuss books to me and he got genuinely angry when I told him I wasn't very enthused about the story because the prose was bad. He was convinced Rothfuss was a fantastic writer and he was absolutely furious when I didn't agree.

So yeah there's nothing wrong with cheap hackery but ffs how do people think it's good craft?

HIJK posted:

He cited Rothfuss as one of the reasons he was breaking up with me. I haven't lost any sleep over him.

# ? Sep 14, 2017 03:20

Ninurta: Sep 19, 2007; What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

Alaois posted:

this is man who gets angry when Ready Player One and The Dresden Files are attacked in this thread

Thank you, but I had previously ripped Ready Player One and quoted passages as emphasis.

We have all purchased books we end up regretting. Ebooks just makes it easier to quote from our past mistakes. Another example was the book Dinosaur Knights, which I had hope for and had read the author's previous works as a teenager. Pretty cover, great praise for it, (Even from GRR Martin!), but it had little content other than lots of Dinosaur poo poo, piss and snot.

But thanks for misrepresenting me.

# ? Sep 14, 2017 04:46

PJOmega: May 5, 2009

Jew it to it! posted:

Thank you, but I had previously ripped Ready Player One and quoted passages as emphasis.

You know we're all capable of clicking "show only posts by user," right? Let's not be too ridiculous with our falsehoods.

# ? Sep 14, 2017 04:51

Ninurta: Sep 19, 2007; What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

PJOmega posted:

You know we're all capable of clicking "show only posts by user," right? Let's not be too ridiculous with our falsehoods.

quote:

Wheat Loaf posted:
I imagine RPO doesn't describe Buffy the Vampire Slayer as "the most feminist work of fiction in history" but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

Jew It To It! posted:

Let me check my copy...I am still pissed I paid for this.

0 hits for Buffy. Oddly enough, 0 hits for feminist.

The closest reference to a Whedon female protagonist?

RPO posted:
Standing on the left side of the runway was my battle-worn X-wing fighter. Parked on the right side was my DeLorean. Sitting on the runway itself was my most frequently used spacecraft, the Vonnegut. Max had already powered up the engines, and they emitted a low, steady roar that filled the hangar. The Vonnegut was a heavily modified Firefly-class transport vessel, modeled after the Serenity in the classic Firefly TV series. The ship had been named the Kaylee when I�d first obtained it, but I�d immediately rechristened it after one of my favorite twentieth-century novelists. Its new name was stenciled on the side of its battered gray hull.

This is praising Ready Player One? Oh, wait, I was pissed that I paid for it, I therefore must defend it.

Ninurta has a new favorite as of 05:00 on Sep 14, 2017

# ? Sep 14, 2017 04:57

Alaois: Feb 7, 2012

Jew it to it! posted:

Thank you, but I had previously ripped Ready Player One and quoted passages as emphasis.

We have all purchased books we end up regretting. Ebooks just makes it easier to quote from our past mistakes. Another example was the book Dinosaur Knights, which I had hope for and had read the author's previous works as a teenager. Pretty cover, great praise for it, (Even from GRR Martin!), but it had little content other than lots of Dinosaur poo poo, piss and snot.

But thanks for misrepresenting me.

christ you're a baby

# ? Sep 14, 2017 05:03

Ninurta: Sep 19, 2007; What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

Alaois posted:

christ you're a baby

Thanks for the reply.

# ? Sep 14, 2017 05:10

PJOmega: May 5, 2009

Jew it to it! posted:

This is praising Ready Player One? Oh, wait, I was pissed that I paid for it, I therefore must defend it.

Hint, scroll to your first post. You know, the one you where you got upset about RPO and Dresden Files being criticized. Seriously, this disingenuous little snit in't even entertaining as a meltdown.

Now, if you want to go full meltdown and entertain us for a page by all means go for it. Threads in a bit of a lull.

# ? Sep 14, 2017 05:22

Ninurta: Sep 19, 2007; What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

PJOmega posted:

Hint, scroll to your first post. You know, the one you where you got upset about RPO and Dresden Files being criticized. Seriously, this disingenuous little snit in't even entertaining as a meltdown.

Now, if you want to go full meltdown and entertain us for a page by all means go for it. Threads in a bit of a lull.

I like the Dresden Files. I do not like Ready Player One. Simple enough?

# ? Sep 14, 2017 05:23