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Zefiel
Sep 14, 2007

You can do whatever you want in life.


I tossed the dice and ordered some 100 chinese guitar picks off ebay. They're colorful and see through in the description and less than $10, free shipping, okay. They finally get here and while they're "clear" thery're more of a frosted clear and nothing like the picture in the description.

They emailed me to ask to leave positive feedback and I wonder if it would be even worth the effort to bring this up with the seller/ leave bad reputation, or should I just let it be because China? (for the record the label does state 'matte clear' so it's more of a wrong stock/item, not bad manufacturing)

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's pretty unlikely they'll do anything to fix the problem but always leave bad feedback, they get super butthurt and it's fun.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I've had situations like that. At the slightest whiff of possible negative feedback they refund but then ban/block you. So you've got your money back so no grounds to file any sort of dispute, and banned so you can't order from them again or communicate.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

bongwizzard posted:

The fish that smells strongly of fish is probably not remotely near its peak of freshness.

The smell that can be smelled is not the true smelt.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Also they'll just have people leave fake feedback saying poo poo like "vary good seller I buy again soon A++++++++++++++++++++++" and the negatives ones will get deleted or pushed out of sight.

With Chinese sites, always go by the description rather than the picture, because the description is more likely to be accurate. The picture might be of the actual product, but just as frequently is a stolen image or a stock photo. In my experience, anyways.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Zefiel posted:

I tossed the dice and ordered some 100 chinese guitar picks off ebay. They're colorful and see through in the description and less than $10, free shipping, okay. They finally get here and while they're "clear" thery're more of a frosted clear and nothing like the picture in the description.

They emailed me to ask to leave positive feedback and I wonder if it would be even worth the effort to bring this up with the seller/ leave bad reputation, or should I just let it be because China? (for the record the label does state 'matte clear' so it's more of a wrong stock/item, not bad manufacturing)



dude, they're guitar picks, and you got 100 of them for 10 bux. How much is your time worth? They don't care anyhow, and I don't think you'll get finger cancer, just don't hold them in your mouth.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

He has played wonderwall and already has finger cancer

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

https://twitter.com/tepingchen/status/907518931522523137

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

'Anti-pervert' flame-throwers for sale in China

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-12/north-korea-sanctions-could-put-cloud-over-china-tourism/8897930

quote:

North Korea: As UN sanctions bite, Chinese tourists flock to gawk at their poor neighbours

Just a few kilometres north of the thriving Chinese border city of Dandong, a daily routine plays out that highlights the huge gap between Asia's two socialist allies.

Every hour during the day, dozens of Chinese boats speed off from a jetty on the Yalu river, packed with tourists, cameras and selfie sticks.

They speed down the water into North Korean territory, past fishermen, soldiers and agricultural workers tending bullock-carts.

As they gawk at their neighbours, a tour guide explains through a crackly speaker that North Korea isn't as economically developed as China.

This appears to be the main drawcard for the thousands of Chinese tourists who come here every year.

"Everyone says North Korea is very poor, so I want to go there and take a look myself at how poor they actually are," said a 74-year-old tourist who only gave his surname, Zhu.


The latest UN sanctions against North Korea, if enforced, will strip an estimated $940 million of income from Kim Jong-un's regime by banning the export of textiles.

It will also cap, but not stop, the flow of oil that China pumps in a pipeline under the Yalu River.

There's not much talk of international politics as the tourist boats pass a village and several watch posts dotted along a continuous wire fence on the North Korean side.

There is more interest in the armed soldier patrolling the shore and the children playing among the corn stalks.

After a few kilometres, the boats turn around and allow North Korean traders to pull up alongside and peddle cigarettes and souvenirs.

The guide warns everyone on board not to take photos, and there is an angry response from the trader when he sees our camera.

Locals in Dandong say North Korea allows the cross-border trips to get a cut of the revenue.

After the latest sanctions, Chinese tourism to North Korea is now one of the few remaining ways for Pyongyang to legally bring in income.

It's estimated about 100,000 tourists — the vast majority Chinese — enter the country each year.

But many more come to Dandong for cross-border day trips and to watch North Korean waitresses perform song and dance routines at joint-venture restaurants.

Those joint ventures have now been banned in the latest round of UN sanctions — raising a question on whether they can legally continue to operate as fully Chinese-owned businesses.

There are signs that local business people are finding ways to get around previous sanctions, such as the importation of North Korean seafood.

"The controls by the Chinese side are now very strict, but there are usually some Chinese fishing boats that are still willing to buy seafood from North Korean trawlers," said one trader at the Donggang port wholesale market near Dandong.

North Korea has made it clear it will continue to work towards the goal of being able to threaten the US with a long-range nuclear missile.

But international gamesmanship seems a world away from the villagers toiling alongside the Yalu River at the border.

Some Chinese tourists yell and wave at them as the boats pass by, hoping for a reaction.

Not once did any of the North Koreans — adults and children alike — show the slightest interest in waving back.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

i've seen pictures from these tours, one of them was a group of north koreans washing their clothes in the river while a guard is pointing his machine gun at the north koreans. poo poo is insane.

this tour is just normal china though, if you've spent more than 5 minutes around mainlanders this shouldn't surprise you for a second

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22MoH8GuQ6U

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://i.imgur.com/7woRYi9.mp4

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Boiled Water posted:

He has played wonderwall and already has finger cancer

eBay, the picks were too opaque,
Now I can't leave good feedback for you.
I'm sure that you will just ignore,
My complaints because I've got a few.
I know in my heart that everybody,
Feels the way I do about China.
And all the roads we have
Are for street making GBS threads.
And everyone is led
By Xie Jinping.
And mebbe
Diaoyu is a part of China.
And after all
It's China's Great Wa-a-all.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Cuz maybeeeeee
Means everything from "yes" to "no way"
And after all
We have a Great Wall

E: last line should have been "poo poo outside a mall," I see that now.

Fleta Mcgurn fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Sep 12, 2017

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

It's pretty unlikely they'll do anything to fix the problem but always leave bad feedback, they get super butthurt and it's fun.

This is the correct approach.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe

This article appears to mostly say that China is stealing a bunch of ideas, not that they're becoming innovative.

calusari
Apr 18, 2013

It's mechanical. Seems to come at regular intervals.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Benagain posted:

This article appears to mostly say that China is stealing a bunch of ideas, not that they're becoming innovative.

Do u know China have the most innovation companies?

Nothing to do with all original competition being banned. Nothing at all. China innovation number #1.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"


I can't stop watching this. They're so low energy, so uncoordinated, it's amazing.

Mr. Unlucky
Nov 1, 2006

by R. Guyovich

yeah i want a fuckin fire knife!

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Baronjutter posted:

I can't stop watching this. They're so low energy, so uncoordinated, it's amazing.

It's good to see the Lollipop Guild can still find work

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdzhOfILwds

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.

That is extraordinary. As a native of Los Angeles, I can't imagine any other scenario than a murder occurring shortly afterwards.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


+10 Damage vs The Lecher Rene Chang

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

If only a comprehensive tutorial of the PIT maneuver would magically appear on weibo or something, we'd hear about the highways of China full of sideways vehicles.

Or not, because to execute it, you have to let the other person go first, and that's no go in Chinese Face Culture®

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party
when you're so engrossed in your phone that you don't notice your friend being hit by a car :stare:

(mp4 linked because it's graphic)

Barnaby Rudge
Jan 15, 2011

so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway.when you had sex with me and that monkey
Soiled Meat

Zefiel posted:

I tossed the dice and ordered some 100 chinese guitar picks off ebay. They're colorful and see through in the description and less than $10, free shipping, okay. They finally get here and while they're "clear" thery're more of a frosted clear and nothing like the picture in the description.

They emailed me to ask to leave positive feedback and I wonder if it would be even worth the effort to bring this up with the seller/ leave bad reputation, or should I just let it be because China? (for the record the label does state 'matte clear' so it's more of a wrong stock/item, not bad manufacturing)



I can't remember if these are the ones that fall apart quickly or the ones that leave a weird greasy residue on your hands.

Either way, they don't last long.

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Ok, so I found that I don't need to wait weeks to get internet. I got a SIM card with Jio, which made the news for a while because of their crazy scheme to get free internet data and unlimited calling into the hands of the poorest of Indians. I get 1Gb of data free per day, which resets every night. It's 4G speed. If I somehow (I don't know how) go over the 1Gb in a day, I still get unlimited data and calls at slower speeds until it resets after midnight or in the morning (possible 3G, I am not sure). Because of this crazy amount of data I am doing what every Indian recommends and using my phone as a hot spot for my notebook, so I don't have to wait for the internet company to show up. I still won't use up the 1Gb per day this way.
This whole thing costs me $2 USD per month. It makes me laugh how expensive phone contracts and data are in North America and Europe.

--

Leaving China:
I left Shenzhen to Hong Kong by ferry and arrived at HKIA with tons of time to spare. When I had to check in for my flight the with ferry (you arrive directly into ticketing and check in, so if you don't have a ticket you are not allowed on the ferry), they didn't want to let me go because I had no return ticket from India. I kept telling them I am not Chinese and US passport holders with 10-year visas to India do not have Chinese tourist restrictions on them about return tickets. Supervisors were called, my visa was stared at to pretend they were deciding things, and finally they let me go after they stared at my visa again and I explained I am not Chinese and there is nothing they can do about that fact.
The ferry was fine except for the dude that sat next to me immediately fell asleep with his morning poo poo breath pointed right at me, reeking of that B.O. they all pretend they don't have. I was my final Mainlander gift, a good summary of my time in China.

I arrived at HKIA to the ticketing desks and, before I said a word, the woman looked at me and said "Are you going to Mumbai?" Since Chinese seem to confuse me for Indian, and I have no idea why, I assumed she was racist and scoffed. Again she had to call supervisors over because I had a one-way ticket to India. The same routine continued and I was eventually let go.
I wandered around the airport for a while taking selfies and eating overpriced snacks until boarding my delayed airplane.

I arrived at Mumbai to get expectedly ripped-off by my pre-paid taxi. Everyone was expecting tips for who knows what, and were upset that I didn't want to pay them. My brain reverted to India Mode and I pretended I had no idea what tips are, making some guys visibly upset. I arrived at my free hotel room, where again the guy that opened the door for me expected a tip. I slept and took a taxi to the train station and again people expected tips. Some guy grabbed my bags and tried to carry them the 300m to my platform and then demanded at 6000 rupee fee (over $100 USD, and to change RMB and INR, just remove the last digit from the rupee). I said no. He then said 600 rupees, almost $10 USD, and I said no. I pointed at the sign saying there's a fixed fee for luggage coolies at 50 rupees maximum. He said he wasn't part of this service, so he didn't have such a low fee. I started walking away and he kept pestering me, as usual. I said "no change" and pulled out a spare 100 RMB note and asked if he wanted this garbage, and he said "yes, I can exchange it nearby." I put it back in my wallet.
A guy waiting for the same train got off his phone and asked if I needed some help. I told him I could handle it, and he nodded his head at me. It was nice to be back in a place where strangers actually care about each other, especially a foreigner who they worry might get lost or cheated.

The train came and I got on and all the people sitting near me began conversations in whatever level of English they could muster, and everyone was in a fine mood. They were really worried about me carrying my backpack on my lap (because of small seats) and were trying to find solutions where I could put it and be comfortable, despite all of them hunched in their seats with big suitcases taking up the leg room.
I looked out the window the whole ride and it felt strange. I was coming from this huge, clean and shiny city with great transportation, parks, sidewalks, and the ability to go out and buy almost anything I want, and then being in this place with piles of garbage everywhere, people making GBS threads in the open, naked babies in the road, and no sidewalks or places for humans to congregate. Yet, despite the disgusting veneer over what I was seeing, I knew my city would be fine and clean, I would feel comfortable and welcomed, and the people I would deal with in my daily life would be a huge step above even the most well-dressed and educated Mainlander.

As I was waiting at the train door before arriving at my station, the woman next to me struck up a conversation and it turns out her husband worked for my friend and landlord. I later found out my new neighbor is good friends with one of my best friends here, and we used to hang out almost nightly before. In a city of a few million people, it was funny seeing how "small world" coincidences are.

My friend got me at the station and took me straight to a dosa shop and we ate big plates of dosa and uttapam, washed down with cold Limca sodas. A perfect welcome back to Hindustan.

My first order of business in my house was to go up to the roof without my shirt and pants and listen to a couple songs. I got a purple-toned sun burn almost immediately in the few minutes that followed.
Then I went to buy a bike because I didn't want to use the lovely one my friend would loan to me, and the guy in the shop was so shocked to see a foreigner that he wanted to talk about politics and things in English and ask about my life. He offered me a cup of chai and we chatted for a while about the GST, a new tax on many services and items that fluctuates between 3% to 30%+, and it ruining included tax in prices before. I can no longer go buy 100 rupees of stuff and pay just 100 rupees. Anyway, the prices were marked on the bikes but he said he will give me a no-tax discount and I saved 700 rupees off the cost of my bike. He threw in a free bell and servicing and said to come back any time I want for chai and chat.

I went to the supermarket and was shocked at the prices after the tax on stuff. Even though I was paying 5-10X prices in China, I was still used to the cheapness of India before. My friend was with me and he had just been in the US for a few months and said "What is happening to India? People can't afford this!" I mean, it's still like 30X cheaper than the US, and pathetically low for my American standards, even after China, but I am in India Mode now, and I can't get out of it. I left the supermarket with $20 worth of stuff that would cost me triple or higher that in China.

Seeing old friends was good and it was great having a big pack of dudes to hang with again, over all the crazy women and jealous nationalistic and racist married Chinese guys of Shenzhen. I don't have a single married male friend here and we are all bachelors with our late nights, sports, and video games. I welcome the change. My second night back we all played Golden Eye until 1am, getting stuck in a loop of "one more game, come on."


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I feel like China was forever ago. I can barely remember it. Somehow leaving there and arriving here wiped it all from my memory, and whatever face culture bullshit and problems I had disappeared. My only connection to China now is my Wechat friends and some items I brought with me. I don't give one flying gently caress about China suddenly. It is so foreign and distant that I almost feel like I have never even been there. It might as well be Zimbabwe. Trying to catch up with this thread made me tired and I stopped reading a few pages ago. I can't understand what I am looking at.

Despite posting multiple updates in my Wechat about my journey here, and my new life back in India, so many of my Chinese contacts are still asking what part of Shenzhen I am in that looks so strange, and why are so many Indians around. The lack of critical thinking is astounding. I will never get that, but I am sure I will just forget it in a couple weeks. I deleted a ton of people I don't care to see or talk to again. Some of them are very interested in my city and want to visit, but I said no. Chaoshan Girl comes next month, as she groveled and patched up our friendship. We will hang out for a week and then she flies back. I told her she will absolutely hate India.

EDIT: It's nice being around birds, chipmunks, and living creatures everywhere outside that isn't rats. Cows, dogs, monkeys, donkeys, and camels are here. We saw a snake yesterday. China is devoid of wildlife and it was something I never got used to.

Bajaj fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Sep 13, 2017

spiky butthole
May 5, 2014
I missed your posting plungeman. I'm so pleased you are happy again.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
I'm glad CG is back as a guest star. Welcome back plunger.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
I'm adding cellular service to my list of things India does better than America

Food is #1 on that list, btw.

Bajaj, have you seen any giant samosas in your travels and did you take pictures?

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
CG will come and you will get bloat.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


what a hot bajaj

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Welcome back to civilisation!

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

spiky butthole posted:

I missed your posting plungeman. I'm so pleased you are happy again.

TTerrible posted:

I'm glad CG is back as a guest star. Welcome back plunger.
LOL, was I ever truly gone? Thanks

Accretionist posted:

I'm adding cellular service to my list of things India does better than America

Food is #1 on that list, btw.

Bajaj, have you seen any giant samosas in your travels and did you take pictures?
I have to get used to Bajaj as a username, but it's yet another multi-faceted conglomerate brand like Haier.
Is "samosas" Indian thread slang for milk tanks? I see big ones daily, attached to big big mamas. So many fat people here after China, but it's not that watery fat that the Buzzcuts have. At least fat guys here have fat guy strength.
As for actual samosas, the biggest I see are hand-sized. I ate some last night, along with panipuri. It will take me a while to get used to eating more spice than the two basic spices in China. I tell my friends here about how lame Chinese spicy food is and they laugh at the weakness of the tongue and culture that considers ginger spicy.

EDIT: I forgot to say that if I don't pay my Jio bill, I still get everything free and unlimited, just as slower speeds. I can never pay this bill again if I don't want to.

Bajaj fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 13, 2017

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

BioTech
Feb 5, 2007
...drinking myself to sleep again...


That guy doesn't seem to appreciate you taking pictures of his balls.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Bajaj posted:

EDIT: It's nice being around birds, chipmunks, and living creatures everywhere outside that isn't rats. Cows, dogs, monkeys, donkeys, and camels are here. We saw a snake yesterday. China is devoid of wildlife and it was something I never got used to.
I assume that in China, all the wildlife has already been killed and ground up into TCM dick pills.

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