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I can forgive delays in V3 if we get March of the Eagles 2. a man can dream can't he 
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Great now here I am V for Vegas fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 13:23
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Groogy posted:I actually have no idea what EU:Rome really is. I've never touched the thing or even watched a LP of it or anything. One thing I remember really liking was how troops assigned to a general would become loyal to that general and in the case of a civil war or revolt, the armies would gain a whole new tag and a chunk of your territory to build new forces, so you weren't just fighting some abstract rebel faction.
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Sep 12, 2017 13:24
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While I've never played EU: Rome, this system sounds like it'd be a really interesting idea to revisit in Stellaris. It'd do a lot to make sector management more interesting, and put in more dynamic internal politics. For example, since we've now got the Unity system, you could use that as currency in trying to maintain your sector governors' loyalty. Or if you have low unity, that would make them more eager/susceptible to factions.
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Sep 12, 2017 14:32
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Fintilgin posted:One thing I remember really liking was how troops assigned to a general would become loyal to that general and in the case of a civil war or revolt, the armies would gain a whole new tag and a chunk of your territory to build new forces, so you weren't just fighting some abstract rebel faction. Yeah, Civil Wars in EU: Rome were super neat.
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Sep 12, 2017 15:37
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Is it actually playable with wiz's mod
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Sep 12, 2017 17:39
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gradenko_2000 posted:I think there were a not-trivial amount of people who registered in SA just to be able to vote in the Crete LP I know I did. Still haven't tried EU:Rome though, seems like a nightmare. The Europa engine games are scary.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:46
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EU: Rome and Vicky 2 are pretty similar in that they have some gameplay systems that seem like neat ideas for verisimilitude, but when you actually play the game just end up being not fun. In EU: Rome your first and most important order of business is to do everything in your power to prevent a Populist from ever becoming a candidate for Consul. Because if a Populist becomes Consul they will gently caress up your country and there is not a drat thing you can do about it. As a player your natural inclination is to fill positions with your best and brightest. With the populists in charge those positions are filled with random idiots, who invariably are disloyal and will spark a civil war if and when you try to remove them. In Vicky 2, you can't let laissez faire capitalists get control of your economy, because they will gently caress your economy, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:53
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StashAugustine posted:Is it actually playable with wiz's mod it's pretty fun if you can get it to run on a modern computer. last I checked that was no mean feat.
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Sep 12, 2017 20:03
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I don't think I'd say that EU: Rome was a great game. But it had a ton of great ideas that deserve another look. Although, honestly, if I was at Paradox I'd probably 'reboot' the game with a new title (Vae Victis or something in that vein) to avoid confusion with the Total War Rome games. I'd also put a lot more effort into unique governments (so Rome has two consuls and such), and leave things like barbarian tribes unplayable or for major DLC. I'd really really rather see Paradox tackle the ancients again instead of going back to Victoria, but I get I'm in the minority there.
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Sep 12, 2017 20:16
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Sep 12, 2017 20:20
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It's sad that at the time that was totally just a joke poking fun at a farce of a foreign political movement, and harmless meme. Such simple innocent times 
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Sep 12, 2017 20:22
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WilliamAnderson posted:I know I did. Still haven't tried EU:Rome though, seems like a nightmare. The Europa engine games are scary. Rome is Clauswitz engine
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Sep 12, 2017 20:23
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Farecoal posted:Rome is Clauswitz engine Huh. I guess I just lumped it in with everything pre-CK2.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:49
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Fintilgin posted:but I get I'm in the minority there. Maybe on this forum, but I dunno if that's the case normally. Roman and Greek stuff probably has a broader appeal than the Victorian period for most people.
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Sep 12, 2017 22:15
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Koramei posted:Maybe on this forum, but I dunno if that's the case normally. Roman and Greek stuff probably has a broader appeal than the Victorian period for most people. Eh, I'd say they're both niche appeal really. People are more FAMILIAR with Rome, or at least the broad strokes of Ancient Rome plus the stuff they think is Roman but actually came from the renaissance, but I think if you were to ask the average person whether they'd rather have a game about the Roman or Victorian era, they most likely wouldn't have a preference either way. I mean Stellaris is Paradox's best selling title by far, because basically anything historical tends to be pretty niche compared to sci-fi.
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Sep 12, 2017 22:22
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Well, there's always the bronze age. That's about three thousand years of written history that no one really cares or knows about.
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Sep 12, 2017 22:56
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That's because outside of a narrow region around the fertile crescent there's mostly poo poo all going on. I've actually been working on a mod for EU4 for a while now that was originally gonna be set in the bronze age, but after spending a lot of time on wasted research I came to the conclusion there's just not enough there. I moved it forward to 1000 BC and am still having to use a lot of anachronisms. For a strategy game, unless you build it with a super narrow focus like a mini campaign pack for Total War, or have mechanics designed specifically to simulate the growth of civilization in broad strokes over a longass time period like Civ, it's not really a suitable setting. Also I still think Rome probably has the broadest appeal as a historical setting out of anything other than the Middle Ages, but admittedly I'm basing that on no evidence whatsoever. I'd be kinda stunned if there really is never another Paradox game set in antiquity though either way.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:12
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Ghetto Prince posted:Well, there's always the bronze age. That's about three thousand years of written history that no one really cares or knows about. SEA PEOPLE! Have some CK2 style invasions from mysterious SEA PEOPLE would be fun.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:14
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Paradox just buy the rights to Pharaoh, give it a modern polish and multiplayer, and sell that. Instant money right there
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Sep 12, 2017 23:32
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Koramei posted:That's because outside of a narrow region around the fertile crescent there's mostly poo poo all going on. I've actually been working on a mod for EU4 for a while now that was originally gonna be set in the bronze age, but after spending a lot of time on wasted research I came to the conclusion there's just not enough there. I moved it forward to 1000 BC and am still having to use a lot of anachronisms. For a strategy game, unless you build it with a super narrow focus like a mini campaign pack for Total War, or have mechanics designed specifically to simulate the growth of civilization in broad strokes over a longass time period like Civ, it's not really a suitable setting.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:55
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Soup du Jour posted:Paradox just buy the rights to Pharaoh, give it a modern polish and multiplayer, and sell that. Instant money right there a walker economy has kind of been abandoned tbh. and when building cities I really like not having to worry about crossroads.
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Sep 13, 2017 00:04
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I think I'd be OK with Vicky 3 not letting me know that the population of Mexican Sunni farmers in Newark are 29% communist.
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Sep 13, 2017 00:29
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Fister Roboto posted:I think I'd be OK with Vicky 3 not letting me know that the population of Mexican Sunni farmers in Newark are 29% communist. why would you be okay with that
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Sep 13, 2017 00:30
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Eh, I'd say they're both niche appeal really. People are more FAMILIAR with Rome, or at least the broad strokes of Ancient Rome plus the stuff they think is Roman but actually came from the renaissance, but I think if you were to ask the average person whether they'd rather have a game about the Roman or Victorian era, they most likely wouldn't have a preference either way. like, gently caress, the reason I started having any interest at all in CK2 was that folks told me it was a bit like dealing with you family in rome, though you couldn't get rid of poo poo family members by sending them out hunting rebels with no troops
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Sep 13, 2017 00:33
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Fister Roboto posted:I think I'd be OK with Vicky 3 not letting me know that the population of Mexican Sunni farmers in Newark are 29% communist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI
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Sep 13, 2017 00:36
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double nine posted:a walker economy has kind of been abandoned tbh. and when building cities I really like not having to worry about crossroads. Okay but picture this: a Pharaoh where you can designate where walkers go.
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Sep 13, 2017 00:45
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and rip out the heart and soul of the game?! might as well make a RTS where you only control one unit. pfft.
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Sep 13, 2017 00:48
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just build Tropico 6 on top of Cities: Skylines, problem solved
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Sep 13, 2017 00:53
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Soup du Jour posted:Okay but picture this: a Pharaoh where you can designate where walkers go. Don't you already do that with the road signs?
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Sep 13, 2017 01:05
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Simplex posted:In Vicky 2, you can't let laissez faire capitalists get control of your economy, because they will gently caress your economy, and there's nothing you can do about it. Accurate Laissez Faire sim, tbf.
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Sep 13, 2017 01:54
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double nine posted:a walker economy has kind of been abandoned tbh. and when building cities I really like not having to worry about crossroads. Yeah, not a fan of walkers as done in the old Impressions games. I'd be fine with walkers who went to go get the things they wanted, more like Children of the Nile. But, yeah, paradox publishing needs to find a studio to bring back the ancient city builder... and also uboat sims... and also....
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Sep 13, 2017 04:40
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So I'm having surgery and I'll be laid up for a few days and I've decided to make a terrible choice. Despite people here giving perfectly good reasons why not too...I got a steam link and steam controller. I'm expecting hilarity and lots of frustrations. I was surprised that so many configurations existed for Paradox games.
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Sep 13, 2017 16:14
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MazelTovCocktail posted:So I'm having surgery and I'll be laid up for a few days and I've decided to make a terrible choice. Despite people here giving perfectly good reasons why not too...I got a steam link and steam controller. I'm expecting hilarity and lots of frustrations. I was surprised that so many configurations existed for Paradox games. I've played Paradox games on the couch using one of these before and it's... okay. Not great, but if you absolutely must mapgame on the couch and don't have a laptop, it's not awful.
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Sep 13, 2017 16:27
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Drone posted:I've played Paradox games on the couch using one of these before and it's... okay. Not great, but if you absolutely must mapgame on the couch and don't have a laptop, it's not awful. Sweet and Microcenter nearby has one for $29.99. Truthfully the biggest issue with Paradox games on a big tv is the inability to increase the font size. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Sep 13, 2017 16:33
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:just build Tropico 6 on top of
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Sep 13, 2017 16:59
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I like my Steam Link but the controller just gathers dust while I use an Xbox 1 controller
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Sep 13, 2017 17:22
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Gort posted:I like my Steam Link but the controller just gathers dust while I use an Xbox 1 controller How well does that work with Paradox games? The steam controller is used so I can return it for a used Xbox 1 controller if need be.
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Sep 13, 2017 18:35
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MazelTovCocktail posted:How well does that work with Paradox games? Trying to play Paradox games with anything other than a mouse is awful.
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Gort posted:Trying to play Paradox games with anything other than a mouse is awful. Yeah, but I'm going to be stuck in a bed and not able to place anything in the normal laptop resting spot...so I'm trying anything at this point. Well that or just play stuff on the Retropie and watch Godzilla.
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