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gradenko_2000 posted:see this is why I asked where Clinton campaigned in that she actually won. loving incredible that she'd take this cop-out, and a less charitable reading would imply that she was so bad that it wouldn't matter if she campaigned in Wisconsin - she would have lost anyway! Of course she would have, people there are racist it was just racism, nothing else racism is an unbeatable strategy in America The republicans have finally figured out the "be really racist" exploit and now it is literally impossible to win against them :baddemsay:
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Cerebral Bore posted:lol at Hillary unironically arguing that the real problem wasn't all the bad poo poo she did but that people had the temerity to not pretend that it never happened. I mean that's kinda the treatment Trump got
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Have you ever imagined how the world might look from underneath your shoes to those you've trampled down? That's a rhetorical question, honey. Please don't answer. I don't want to hear your voice right now.
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zegermans posted:I mean lol no
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loquacius posted:Of course she would have, people there are racist I'd say that racism has become a much much stronger tool in a post-Obama world given how much casually racist people's brains absolutely loving broke under a black president. Anyway winning in the future isn't about convincing Billy Ray Sue Bob Jim Cetus III to not  it's about appealing to the base that is completely alienated and didn't bother to vote.
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Cerebral Bore posted:lol no k
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zegermans posted:I mean People talked about his skeletons all the time, it's just that the kind of person who votes for Trump is well aware he's a huge scumbag and doesn't give a poo poo zegermans posted:I'd say that racism has become a much much stronger tool in a post-Obama world given how much casually racist people's brains absolutely loving broke under a black president. Anyway winning in the future isn't about convincing Billy Ray Sue Bob Jim Cetus III to not  actually, I'm just sick and loving tired of the "rural America is just racist, that's it, no reason to actually care about them beyond figuring out how to make their votes worth less" attitude that is still somehow getting stronger in blue states
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loquacius posted:People talked about his skeletons all the time, it's just that the kind of person who votes for Trump is well aware he's a huge scumbag and doesn't give a poo poo worthless is one word
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loquacius posted:
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Squizzle posted:worthless is one word speaking of worthless https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/907616199453954048
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zegermans posted:hot take you can't be pro nazi punching and anti dehumanizing redneck filth this idea that every person in every state that went red in 2016 is automatically a Nazi is kind of what I'm talking about actual Nazis can get punched all day ofc but it only took like 15% of a state's population to tip it to Trump and a nonzero quantity of those people were just desperate
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Raskolnikov38 posted:speaking of worthless well that's lovely
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loquacius posted:this idea that every person in every state that went red in 2016 is automatically a Nazi is kind of what I'm talking about I'm not sure it's forgivable that just because you're desperate you vote for the idiot fascist straight up promising to make life more difficult for others. I agree you can't just write off all of rural america, there are decent people that live there. Hell, I live there. But I also walk past at least 4 confederate flags... in Illinois.. every time I take my daughter for a stroller ride.
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zegermans posted:I'm not sure it's forgivable that just because you're desperate you vote for the idiot fascist straight up promising to make life more difficult for others. lol I'm glad I live in a civilized area
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https://twitter.com/shitshowdotinfo/status/907529602280644613 https://twitter.com/shitshowdotinfo/status/907523891014316032 lol HRC went full Russiagate in her book. KREMLIN'S PROPAGANDA
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Raskolnikov38 posted:speaking of worthless pelosi is a. helping trump pass legislation and b. fighting single payer. when does she switch parties
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Uncle Wemus posted:Is the plan just going to be pass some total garbage bill that has nothing to do with healthcare but call the bill "Medicare for all" and then act surprised when people get mad the plan is to promise "Medicare for all" over and over again until they win the presidency and both houses of Congress, stall for two years by claiming they can't pass it yet because of filibusters and political capital, and then act surprised when the next midterm elections go overwhelmingly in the GOP's favor loquacius posted:People talked about his skeletons all the time, it's just that the kind of person who votes for Trump is well aware he's a huge scumbag and doesn't give a poo poo the "rural America is just racist" thing is popular because it's an easy way to dodge responsibility and feel positive about losing if they pretend racism is the number one priority of rural America and nothing else matters to rurals at all, then they don't have to think about the possibility that they had a bad platform that had zero appeal outside of liberal strongholds, nor do they have to consider that maybe their messaging was awful. they can just blame everything on not being racist enough, and then they don't have to critically examine any other part of the campaign they ran and from there, they can reframe it one of two ways. they can paint it as a necessary sacrifice to win (just like the Dems are currently doing with their open embrace of anti-abortion groups) or they can present their loss as a triumph of moral courage for refusing to be racist
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Al! posted:pelosi is a. helping trump pass legislation and b. fighting single payer. This means Pelosi gets things done 
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loquacius posted:
People in cities are angry because they're getting hosed over by rural voters. Pretty classic divide and rule tactics that work both ways. Both sides are really gutting hosed by Capital but good luck with that argument.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:https://twitter.com/i/moments/907418935015776258 btw if anyone didn't click this link before do it now
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zegermans posted:I mean Trump got a huge pass because he was promising the satisfaction of the basest Id within MAGA CHUDs, and as long as he could fulfill those promises then nothing else mattered. Clinton by comparison promised practically nothing, other than that she wasn't Trump. Her die hards had to project their own ideals onto her in stead of having a genuine platform.
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white sauce posted:Hillfolk are weirder than any Bernie Bro I didn't mortgage my house to pay for an obviously failing primary campaign nor name my daughter Hillary
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zegermans posted:I didn't mortgage my house to pay for an obviously failing primary campaign nor name my daughter Hillary Congrats..? You still voted for a slave owner lmao
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white sauce posted:Congrats..? a slave owner who made an entire party defend her rapist husband
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"Rurals" is culture war bullshit. Only 15-20% of Americans live in rural areas and most of them don't vote. Meanwhile, suburban areas continue to vote GOP and cities continue to be racist as gently caress.   
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zegermans posted:I didn't mortgage my house to pay for an obviously failing primary campaign nor name my daughter Hillary I thought you said you weren't a Hillfolk  At any rate one of my Facebook friends changed her Facebook display name to "<first name> Hillary" and still has not changed it back
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zegermans posted:hot take you can't be pro nazi punching and anti dehumanizing redneck filth Nice, which chapter in Clinton's book is this from?
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Al! posted:if their votes were worth less, bernie would have won The primary?? No, pretty much the opposite. He would have won the general either way.
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Nikita Khrushchev posted:how we celebrating What Happened Day? I'm exchanging my labor for wages.
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