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I remember talking to a PSL candidate and telling them I couldn't rightly enroll in PSL because they supported what was essentially a hereditary monarchy in the DPRK and they responded that "power in North Korea still flows from the people to the Kims."
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I used to listen to a lot of NPR when I worked in a kitchen. Some of it was okay. Although every time Paula Poundstone popped up on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me all I could think was "huh, she bounced back from that child abuse scandal pretty well"
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Anonymous Robot posted:PSL is one of the most prominent communist parties in my area, and boy does their sane and agreeable domestic policy not align with their foreign policy of "Salvador Allende? Class traitor. Basshar al'assad?? Oh hell yase baby" A huge number of commies can't reconcile that a person or group can be anti imperialism and specifically anti us imperialism and still be bad, or that there are anti capitalist politics that are not left wing. The use of "socialist" in the names of lots of totally non Marxian, non anarchist political parties and nation states in the post ww 1 period really seems to give people trouble, too.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:20
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Anonymous Robot posted:I remember talking to a PSL candidate and telling them I couldn't rightly enroll in PSL because they supported what was essentially a hereditary monarchy in the DPRK and they responded that "power in North Korea still flows from the people to the Kims." Good grief. That's some high-level self-delusion going on.
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Anonymous Robot posted:I remember talking to a PSL candidate and telling them I couldn't rightly enroll in PSL because they supported what was essentially a hereditary monarchy in the DPRK and they responded that "power in North Korea still flows from the people to the Kims." Lol yeah I follow a lot of PSL stuff on social media and theres people that legit think that DPRK is a secret utopia
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Sep 12, 2017 23:21
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:Lol yeah I follow a lot of PSL stuff on social media and theres people that legit think that DPRK is a secret utopia Well have you ever been there?
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Sep 12, 2017 23:23
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Anonymous Robot posted:I remember talking to a PSL candidate and telling them I couldn't rightly enroll in PSL because they supported what was essentially a hereditary monarchy in the DPRK and they responded that "power in North Korea still flows from the people to the Kims." A hereditary monarchy that explicitly rejects class struggle, Marxism, historical materialism, and internationalism but who needs to actually read Ten Principles.. or Socialism of our Country... when you can just assume anyone who gives Trump the finger is a good dude DeimosRising fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 23:26
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K. Waste posted:Well have you ever been there? I know a guy that went and came back on some "Pyongyang is the cleanest city on earth!"
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Sep 12, 2017 23:28
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K. Waste posted:Well have you ever been there? Yes but only for two days and not legally sooo. It's dramatically shittier than the Chinese towns on the opposite side of the border and it's not like I saw very much, I was mostly hiking for all intents and purposes.
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From what I've heard from my friend that that used to be way into being a Socialist, there are way too many branches if Socialism that will turn a blind eye to horrible poo poo done by countries as long as those countries are Communist or at least have views that don't line up with American capitalism. Like it's weird to me that you can be a socialist that also thinks Stalin was overall pretty good.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:33
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I get truly, deeply troubled by it pretty often, actually. It's this uncomfortable arena where you can't objectively prove anything and have to rely upon state media or corporate media that's just trash. But in any case, it's increasingly been council communism/syndicalism that has alleviated my concerns lately, I'm just hesitant because it seems like a tendency that is not fully developed/lacks responses to certain aspects of society. But I have to read my Kropotkin and see if that's actually the case.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:33
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Anonymous Robot posted:I get truly, deeply troubled by it pretty often, actually. It's this uncomfortable arena where you can't objectively prove anything and have to rely upon state media or corporate media that's just trash. I've got a sweet Durruti biography if you wanna borrow it when I'm done, we can do a book exchange or somethin
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:Lol yeah I follow a lot of PSL stuff on social media and theres people that legit think that DPRK is a secret utopia It's wild, isn't it? I'm in almost total alignment with their local activities and I like most of their local members. They're organized and their rhetoric is generally on point, and then their foreign policy reveals this grisly authoritarian fetishism and a lack of human perspective. The WWP is the same way, and between those two, they're the only radical game in town.
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I've got a sweet Durruti biography if you wanna borrow it when I'm done, we can do a book exchange or somethin I got a dope book on the Chinese Revolution I can send your way.
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I mean, from the bit of Lenin I've read, he seems to be pretty adamant that socialists should be uncompromising in their principles, but principles does not equal dogma, which I feel like a lot of young commies are caught up in
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Anonymous Robot posted:I got a dope book on the Chinese Revolution I can send your way. I'm down, I just got a volume of Mao's writings so I could use some history for context
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glam rock hamhock posted:From what I've heard from my friend that that used to be way into being a Socialist, there are way too many branches if Socialism that will turn a blind eye to horrible poo poo done by countries as long as those countries are Communist or at least have views that don't line up with American capitalism. Like it's weird to me that you can be a socialist that also thinks Stalin was overall pretty good. I'm an AnarchoShitPostist it's the only right ideology
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K. Waste posted:I haven't, but it sounds like a load of bullshit. And not just typical rumor-mill bullshit, but, like, really really stupid bullshit. They did apparently put the star of Heaven Knows What through rehab. Via Fader:
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North-Korea is basically a case of someone taking the worst aspects of Stalinism, Maoism and Japanese fascism and mashing them all together to make just a huge mess.Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I've got a sweet Durruti biography if you wanna borrow it when I'm done, we can do a book exchange or somethin Apparently when I get really drunk I go into long rants about the greatness of Comrade Durruti. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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The onky good system of government is no government at all comrades
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Budgie Jumping posted:I'm fully open to the possibility that it's bullshit, and I don't want to needlessly besmirch the Safdie name, but as far as gossip goes it was just too bizarre for me to just not follow up on in some way. A pair of drug-dealer/filmmaker brothers running out of cash and paying crew/cast in drugs they haven't been able to move yet? That's juicy poo poo. Fair enough. It is juicy and, hell, that could even make a good movie. Who wouldn't want to make a movie, like, Bad Director which is basically a carbon-copy of Abel Ferrara's relationship with Zoe Lund? Plus, I'm sure it's possible that the Safdie brothers can both be incredibly sweet human beings to Arielle Holmes and douchebags to, like, anyone else. Stranger/nastier poo poo has happened in the annals of indie filmmaking.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:The onky good system of government is no government at all comrades I honestly think anarchism is kind of a semantic error, any group of humans interacting and forming a society with norms and rules etc are governed and hence have some form of government. Government is merely the expression of social power.
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Budgie Jumping posted:Some girl I met at a bar claimed to have hung out in the same circles as the Safdie bros. She said she didn't like them and cited that heroin story as the reason why. I'm fully open to the possibility that it's bullshit, and I don't want to needlessly besmirch the Safdie name, but as far as gossip goes it was just too bizarre for me to just not follow up on in some way. A pair of drug-dealer/filmmaker brothers running out of cash and paying crew/cast in drugs they haven't been able to move yet? That's juicy poo poo. I hope it's fake, and that the rehab thing you quoted is real, but that type of seedy poo poo really grabs me. i hear they also always have sex with the same girl at the same time. and always go everywhere together. and were both engaged to the same penthouse model. and have a cameo in Baby Driver.
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DeimosRising posted:I honestly think anarchism is kind of a semantic error, any group of humans interacting and forming a society with norms and rules etc are governed and hence have some form of government. Government is merely the expression of social power. Wait so you're saying the socio-political philosophy known as anarchism is distinct from the literal state of anarchy?
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DC Murderverse posted:and have a cameo in Baby Driver. that was Jon Hamm and Jon Bernthal you dumbass
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:that was Jon Hamm and Jon Bernthal you dumbass uh i'm pretty sure that Jons Hamm and Bernthal did not want to double-team Selena Gomez during Spring Breakers.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:The onky good system of government is no government at all comrades Anarchy is also kind of dumb and has more in common with libertarian ideals than communist ones.
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Shoombo posted:Wait so you're saying the socio-political philosophy known as anarchism is distinct from the literal state of anarchy? No I'm saying that slogans like the only good government is no government or claiming to be against the concept of the state are wrongheaded because they're based in a concept of government/state that is ahistorical and lacking in theoretical backing. So inasmuch as these are major expressions of anarchistic political feeling (anarchists say them a lot) they confuse the two. Like dickeye is a goof but it's not like these aren't the real held positions of a lot of people.
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Steve Yun posted:They should've hired it out to LolaFX. They do a lot of business with them, LolaFX did a lot of great work like young Tony Stark in Civil War, but no, Disney decided they'd do it in-house Yeah, if it didn't look like a floppy Prequel CG character it would've helped a lot, but I still think they should've just... cast an actor.
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DeimosRising posted:I honestly think anarchism is kind of a semantic error, any group of humans interacting and forming a society with norms and rules etc are governed and hence have some form of government. Government is merely the expression of social power. Its about a nonhierarchical aociety not a no rules society
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glam rock hamhock posted:Anarchy is also kind of dumb and has more in common with libertarian ideals than communist ones. I mean it's part of a broad group of ideas classified as left-libertarian but it does tend to go hand in hand with some other ideology Its why you don't hear many people saying they're pure strain anarchists vs anarcho-syndicalist or -communist (yo) I'm basically saying if u don't read the first chapter of the bread book and go whoa this guy knew what the gently caress you should just shine your boots and start goosestepping (I'm not actually saying that)
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Just to let anyone who uses Alamo Drafthouse know, they're employing Devin Faraci again.
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DeimosRising posted:No I'm saying that slogans like the only good government is no government or claiming to be against the concept of the state are wrongheaded because they're based in a concept of government/state that is ahistorical and lacking in theoretical backing. So inasmuch as these are major expressions of anarchistic political feeling (anarchists say them a lot) they confuse the two. Like dickeye is a goof but it's not like these aren't the real held positions of a lot of people. He's making fun of you ya dingus
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LesterGroans posted:Just to let anyone who uses Alamo Drafthouse know, they're employing Devin Faraci again. the serving business is a revolving door.
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I liked Rogue One including the CGI abomination Peter Cushing, it looked cool and the actor underneath did a good job, too.
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matt parrott of the trad worker's party aka a bunch of nazi fucks is doing an ama on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/6zn6m5/iama_hate_group_leader_who_fought_in/ it is heartening as gently caress to see that like half of r/@ is making GBS threads down his throat
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Q: Are you disappointed the Allies defeated the Nazi's in WWII? Do you fantasize about what our world would be like had Hitler succeeded? A: I'm not much of a history buff and I don't dwell heavily on WWII and its themes and dreams.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Q: Are you disappointed the Allies defeated the Nazi's in WWII? Do you fantasize about what our world would be like had Hitler succeeded?  disclosure thats me
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:
Yikes. Also, rename me to WWII Themes & Dreams
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