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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Me probably Wait didn't it just not work the first time because he had to input the code from booting up, like touch ID makes you? The next times he did it, it worked. e: nvm, looks like its not the same error Over There fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Me probably Once TouchID works under the glass they will probably just be like "Hey we heard you all missed TouchID and hated the slow FaceID, so we brought it back!"
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Mons Hubris posted:Once TouchID works under the glass they will probably just be like "Hey we heard you all missed TouchID and hated the slow FaceID, so we brought it back!" "Faceid" already works good on some laptops like the Spectre. If it's better than several current laptops then it'll be really good.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:16
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Can't wait for ads to track FaceID status and pause when you're not watching
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Sep 12, 2017 21:21
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oversteer posted:Can't wait for ads to track FaceID status and pause when you're not watching You assume they're opening that code to anyone, it appears to have the same locks around it that TouchID does.
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TyrantWD posted:There is an $8 difference between the 8+ and X if you finance the phone through your carrier, and $10 difference through the Apple Upgrade Program. If those amounts are significant to you, you probably shouldn't be in the market for the latest iPhone in the first place. One of those phones you can buy in ten days. The other you may be lucky to get by Christmas.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:27
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oversteer posted:Can't wait for
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AlternateAccount posted:The lack of subsidization is kind of interesting. The raw, unfiltered $1000 buttfuck of actual phone pricing will be difficult for a lot of people, regardless of means. Everything's been moving away from subsidization and onto payment plans for years, and Apple wasn't in the habit of announcing carrier pricing at events anyway.
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Sock The Great posted:One of those phones you can buy in ten days. The other you may be lucky to get by Christmas. I've never had any problem reselling my iPhone for at least 60% of original value Buy an 8 and use it while the early adopters buy the X and Apple smooths out the inevitable issues with it
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I've never had any problem reselling my iPhone for at least 60% of original value This actually sounds like a good idea
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Sep 12, 2017 21:33
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The X really does look great, but the 6S is just so serviceable - I'm excited to see how that range progresses though once the older designs are phased out.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:34
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I've never had any problem reselling my iPhone for at least 60% of original value Exactly, I will happily buy an 8+ next week on a 12 month upgrade plan. Then if the next years model had TouchID and the other stuff I like I will upgrade again.
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aBagorn posted:I'd like to go on long runs (read - 8 miles or more) without having to lug a huge smartphone on an armband or belt or something and still be reachable in case of emergency. I waited 2 years for them to release this watch for the same reason, and now I'm going to order one at the stroke of midnight on Sept 15th.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:39
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Sep 12, 2017 21:46
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oversteer posted:Can't wait for ads to track FaceID status and pause when you're not watching This was a minor plot point in a Black Mirror episode (S1E2). But it's highly unlikely Apple will open it up to just any old rear end in a top hat.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:54
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You can disable faceID quickly by pressing the power button five times in iOS 11 (same for touchID as well).
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I find it funny that they skipped 7S to try to mask the fact that 7 was just 6SS and 8 is 6SSS. Literally four years of incremental improvements (sometimes even regressions!) on the same design in a market that has changed rapidly around them. It's a drat shame they've been rewarded for their blatant coasting this whole time. Granted the software is usually a lot better than android but still, this feels like a day late and a dollar short.
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I can tell you right now that six core cpu setup is pretty fricken impressive. IF you're in apple land there is a not-insignificant-but-really-should-be-7s QOL upgrades in the 8 if you 're looking from a 6/6s perspective.
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I don't know if anyone mentioned this but iPhone 8 is a chunky boy. Basic 8 is 10 grams heavier than the 7 and 8+ gains 14 grams.
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Sep 12, 2017 22:30
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I'm still pissed there was no iPhone 2! RARRRGHHH!!
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Magic Underwear posted:I find it funny that they skipped 7S to try to mask the fact that 7 was just 6SS and 8 is 6SSS. Literally four years of incremental improvements (sometimes even regressions!) on the same design in a market that has changed rapidly around them. It's a drat shame they've been rewarded for their blatant coasting this whole time. Granted the software is usually a lot better than android but still, this feels like a day late and a dollar short. Has it been evolving rapidly? How so? Some phones have like VR and other poo poo that no one cares about or uses? Shammypants fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Has it been evolving rapidly? How so? All the stuff in the X is just playing catch up with the rest of the market: edge to edge screen, oled, wireless charging, face ID (sorta). Even the water resistance from last gen was just following the crowd (and they didn't have to lose the headphone jack to get it).
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Has it been evolving rapidly? How so? Decent OLED is ~5 years old, great OLED is ~2 years old. Apple have been behind the screen-quality curve a while. OLED is the only new thing on X [the faceid is just a workaround for no touchid] so to say they're leading the "future of phones" whilst being literally the last flagship to adopt it, at a price-point way out-of-line with the industry, is. Well, its a thing. Design wise, they've tried to go bezel-less and their implementation leaves a lot to be desired. The top bar sticks into video, are you serious?? Doesn't look like they're doing anything actually cool with OLED either (like always on displays) instead calling "touch to wake" revolutionary.
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So a very few phones are bezel free now. A very few phones have oled screens. A very few have other features the Samsung high end model and iPhone have. The pixel is further behind. So the industry is basically one phone versus another phone with a few cheaper ones with massive trade offs. What was revolutionary about the new s8? Seems like we're well past the revolutionary phase of the industry and firmly sit in the incremental period. Is it worth noting that rushing unreliable features to market doesn't get you bonus points for being first ("waterproofing") Shammypants fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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XyrlocShammypants posted:So a very few phones are bezel free now. A very few phones have oled screens. A very few have other features the Samsung high end model and iPhone have. The pixel is further behind. So the industry is basically one phone versus another phone with a few cheaper ones with massive trade offs. What was revolutionary about the new s8? Seems like we're well past the revolutionary phase of the industry and firmly sit in the incremental period. I can appreciate your impassioned defense of stagnation in consumer electronics. On the other hand, 999 US Dollars for a phone that does not innovate, has a number of troubling compromises, and does not compare well with a cheaper flagship that came out 5 months ago is not a very compelling proposition to me.
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You noticed that Apple's already touting their new GPU all over the place, I wonder if it's even faster than the PowerVRs. Guess having the tie-in to machine learning is a plus (since I don't think the PowerVR chips even have that as a feature) but I'll reserve my judgement until someone does some graphic benchmarks; but note that Apple's not crowing about how their GPU is super de duper faster than 'that old chip.'
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Am i the only one who doesn't want the machines to learn?
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GoldfishStew posted:Am i the only one who doesn't want the machines to learn? What, you don’t want a more realistic realdoll?
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At work so I haven't had a chance to watch the keynote but Jesus Christ $1319 CAD.  I really wanted to talk myself into this but I was bracing for the $1200 the newspapers were saying and that was a huge stretch.
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Magic Underwear posted:I can appreciate your impassioned defense of stagnation in consumer electronics. On the other hand, 999 US Dollars for a phone that does not innovate, has a number of troubling compromises, and does not compare well with a cheaper flagship that came out 5 months ago is not a very compelling proposition to me. Doesn't compare well? Well that's like your opinion. Maybe you need every model year phone to be hugely better than it's competitor but that's not a healthy way to look at electronics. For me I choose based on a number of factors, one of which is the phone that literally laps its opponent in speed tests multiple times
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BGrifter posted:At work so I haven't had a chance to watch the keynote but Jesus Christ $1319 CAD. Just get a 8+ 64 GB
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mattfl posted:At the beach is #1 for me. Careful... I am at the beach nearly every day after work and I ruined my Sport edition because sand microscratched the poo poo out of my watch face. I got the sapphire screen model to replace it and that has been 100% fine. Would recommend getting the sapphire.
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I didn’t even realize that $1000 is for a 64GB X. They really couldn’t start it at 128 for their super premium phone?
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Over There posted:Just get a 8+ 64 GB Yeah I skimmed on my coffee break and the 8 has the new CPU and wireless charging anyway so I'll happily upgrade to one of those. $929 CAD for a 64gb 8 feels way more reasonable.
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Your biggest offender is always going to be images and video from a storage standpoint. If you sign up for a non-garbage tier icloud or google drive account, they get backed up at either near-quality or original quality. 64 gigs should last a long time if you practice the littlest of data hygiene.
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BGrifter posted:Yeah I skimmed on my coffee break and the 8 has the new CPU and wireless charging anyway so I'll happily upgrade to one of those. $929 CAD for a 64gb 8 feels way more reasonable. That's what I'm gonna do too. I was comparing the two on the apple website and its a no brainer. incoherent posted:Your biggest offender is always going to be images and video from a storage standpoint. If you sign up for a non-garbage tier icloud or google drive account, they get backed up at either near-quality or original quality. 64 gigs should last a long time if you practice the littlest of data hygiene. We have an iMac as well so this works out well. I checked the GBs used on my 7 and I'm at 32 out of 256 
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First revision of the X/FaceID is gonna be poo poo. Gonna upgrade my 6S+ to an 8+ and see if they fix it next year.
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FaceID isn't some dark magic apple conjured up, It's a tech already developed. Surface devices have the same hardware and implement Windows Hello, microsoft's biometric security specification. Intel sells a camera thats compatible with Windows Hello. I wouldn't be surprised it that is in fact intel tech. HAven't seen any other computer cams that support it.
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incoherent posted:FaceID isn't some dark magic apple conjured up, It's a tech already developed. Surface devices have the same hardware and implement Windows Hello, microsoft's biometric security specification. Intel sells a camera thats compatible with Windows Hello. How well does it work ? Im not concerned about Face ID not working or recognizing my face Im worried that we're gonna have to do exaggerated motions to unlock it like Craig did on the keynote, instead of calmly putting my finger on the home button while I'm not even looking at the device
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