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I thought we were talking about the show's relationship with people who compare it to the old one, not the old show itself. I don't get the sense TTG HAS an opinion it wants to state about its source material other regarding it as a as a mine for absurdity and half-hearted regurgitation of some of their plots.
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I mean the original show is kind of an elephant in the room where the new one is concerned, and considering the nature of Teen Titans Go it would be kind of disingenuous if they never talked about it.
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Sep 12, 2017 06:43
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TFRazorsaw posted:I thought we were talking about the show's relationship with people who compare it to the old one, not the old show itself. I don't get the sense TTG HAS an opinion it wants to state about its source material other regarding it as a as a mine for absurdity and half-hearted regurgitation of some of their plots. It doesn't, it just shits on the old fan base because it's funny and ultimately it's a comedy. There is no deep message here and there shouldn't be.
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Sep 12, 2017 07:37
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CharlestheHammer posted:It doesn't, it just shits on the old fan base because it's funny and ultimately it's a comedy. Totally agreed. It's not a personal attack on anyone, it's a goofy cartoon show for kids and it loves being that. Also, yeah it's super funny.
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Sep 12, 2017 08:22
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I wonder if people felt this personally attacked by Bat-mite in Batman: Brave and the Bold.
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Sep 12, 2017 10:40
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Lurdiak posted:I wonder if people felt this personally attacked by Bat-mite in Batman: Brave and the Bold. They absolutely did. I remember that much.
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Lurdiak posted:I wonder if people felt this personally attacked by Bat-mite in Batman: Brave and the Bold. People felt personally attacked by BatB in general, though most people seemed to come around on it. (If just because it started killing people off in surprisingly large numbers.)
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Sep 12, 2017 16:19
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Teen Titans is still my favorite DC show, and I will never understood why Teen Titans Go sends people into such a frothing rage.
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Sep 12, 2017 17:51
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Didn't it also piss off Young Justice fans, or are they the same group as Teen Titans fans? Were there people who thought TTG was some sort of conspiracy that cancelled YJ's third season or something?
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Sep 12, 2017 18:55
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The only rumor/theory/fact floated around for YJ that I ever saw as a fan was that YJ was cancelled because it was not popular enough among young boys despite being fairly popular with girls and that this translated into poor toy sales.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:02
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I'm not a huge ttg fan but if it gets kids watching cartoon Network where they might also watch other cartoons and get something out of them and not creepy horrible YouTube poo poo unattended then I'm all for it continuing forever. People who liked the old show can watch the DVDs. Oh no a cartoon made fun of you for taking a decade old children's show seriously, no one is suffering more than that.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:08
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ToastyPotato posted:The only rumor/theory/fact floated around for YJ that I ever saw as a fan was that YJ was cancelled because it was not popular enough among young boys despite being fairly popular with girls and that this translated into poor toy sales. That came from Paul Dini during Kevin Smith's Fatman on Batman podcast: quote:DINI: "They're all for boys 'we do not want the girls', I mean, I've heard executives say this, you know, not [where I am] but at other places, saying like, 'We do not want girls watching this show." https://io9.gizmodo.com/paul-dini-superhero-cartoon-execs-dont-want-largely-f-1483758317 It's episode 52 but I can't find it where it used to be linked.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:17
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The YJ toyline was also mishandled as gently caress and it made the main characters hard to actually pick up in a form that was at all desirable, so CN, DC, and Mattel really shot themselves in the foot beyond anything the show could actually account for or be responsible for.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:31
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Roth posted:Teen Titans is still my favorite DC show, and I will never understood why Teen Titans Go sends people into such a frothing rage. I think part of it is how Teen Titans ended, with the last episode being a cliffhanger. Like yeah, dumbdumbs were mad about Brave and the Bold, but since the DCAU lasted so long the "not MY Batman!" sentiment was pretty much the sole reason, whereas the reaction to TTG is that combined with resentment that the first show didn't go on for 20 seasons and had an unsatisfying ending to boot. Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 20:11
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DC has made a major push into merchandise for girls since then so maybe they'll be a bit smarter.
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Sep 12, 2017 20:25
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ThermoPhysical posted:That came from Paul Dini during Kevin Smith's Fatman on Batman podcast: Ah, thanks! This clears up a lot of things. CN's really horrible at managing its shows. And while I don't get to watch TTG much, it's honestly kind of fascinating how much ire it gets.
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Sep 12, 2017 20:30
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Don't the subsidiaries of WB compete with each other too, like Sears locations? I read that somewhere. Cartoon Network might resent DC or something.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:45
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I mean, I can say I was one of the people who didn't pick up YJ for like, the entire first season, because I got hyped up because they were making a cartoon adaptation of my favorite superhero comic as a kid, and then I find out no, they're just calling it that and it's actually an adaptation of a lot of the versions of Teen Titans comics I disliked the most (I.E. Geoff Johns' work) and then I gave it a shot. And then I almost dropped it again for the episode with Harm and Secret because they just flubbed that so badly and it felt like insulting the people who liked the comics the show is ostensibly named after? But then I guess that just makes me 'that guy' in this case. I certainly came around on it.
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Sep 13, 2017 06:30
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... You know that episode was written by Peter David, right?
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Sep 13, 2017 06:34
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Thst explains the deleted scene with the Roma
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Sep 13, 2017 07:42
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I'm just saying, for all the man's faults, I doubt he'd write an episode with the intention of slagging off on his the comic and characters he created.
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amigolupus posted:Ah, thanks! This clears up a lot of things. CN's really horrible at managing its shows. And while I don't get to watch TTG much, it's honestly kind of fascinating how much ire it gets. I feel for Dini but frankly that whole era of CN trying to do live-action shows was pretty loving dire and I'm glad it's in the rear view of the world.
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TFRazorsaw posted:... You know that episode was written by Peter David, right? I still kinda hated it because of Secret being a pokemon.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:09
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That's fair enough, I just don't think the notion that they were trying to insult fans of the comic is really warranted.
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TwoPair posted:I feel for Dini but frankly that whole era of CN trying to do live-action shows was pretty loving dire and I'm glad it's in the rear view of the world. I think the current era of basically only showing Teen Titans Go is also extremely dire. They have plenty of other shows they could fill up their schedule with.
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CharlestheHammer posted:It doesn't, it just shits on the old fan base because it's funny and ultimately it's a comedy. What an exciting and enchanting world you live in. I think TTGo is sparkly bullshit, the equivalent of jangling keys in front of a baby while occasionally calling the baby's older brother an idiot for not laughing at this AWESOME KEYYYY JANGLINGGGGG whipcrack whipcrack whoosh sound effect. Anybody else remember Johnny Test? TTG is in the same category in my mind. Sound effects and sparkles to keep the seven year olds sitting at attention. Jukebox Hero fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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Sep 16, 2017 12:45
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Nah, its a funny cartoon with good characters and great gags.
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Jukebox Hero posted:Anybody else remember Johnny Test? I had not seen such hatred for a cartoon character since Scrappy Doo. To hear some of the comments online, you'd have thought Test was Satan incarnate sent to this world to devour all hope and sunshine.
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Jukebox Hero posted:What an exciting and enchanting world you live in. Sir, this is a Denny's Mister Kingdom posted:I had not seen such hatred for a cartoon character since Scrappy Doo. To hear some of the comments online, you'd have thought Test was Satan incarnate sent to this world to devour all hope and sunshine. Well, it's a pretty badly written and poorly animated cartoon at least.
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Teen Titans Go is a pretty good silly animated cartoon for kids. It's not stupid or lazy, it just isn't serious. It reminds me of a more anarchic Spongebob more than anything else.
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Lightning Lord posted:Well, it's a pretty badly written and poorly animated cartoon at least. Wasn't it Flash-based?
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Jukebox Hero posted:What an exciting and enchanting world you live in. Teen Titans was also sugary junk for children.
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I never watched the original Teen Titans, but every time I've caught a clip or episode of TTG on youtube I've laughed. And not the kind where you kind of softly chuckle and smile bit, but a genuine laugh. Maybe it's selection bias since people are only posting the best clips, but from what I've seen the show seems really funny.
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Mister Kingdom posted:Wasn't it Flash-based? I recall it became Flash based after it's first season.
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so uh, yanno that episode of JLU where Lex Luthor and the Flash switch bodies? And Flash in Luthor's body is heavily implied to have done the do with Tala? That's kind of uh Horrible Like seriously how did no one ever loving catch that?
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TFRazorsaw posted:so uh, yanno that episode of JLU where Lex Luthor and the Flash switch bodies? *Devin Grayson voice* It wasn't rape, it was just non-consensual.
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Everyone brings up YJ getting hosed over, but I was more bummed at them canceling Green Lantern TAS
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Yeah I wrote off GLTAS because the pilot looked like a bargain bin PS2 game but I've seen clips in my YouTube recommended feed and it looks like it turned into a pretty good show. I keep thinking I'll watch the whole thing one of these days but then end up putting it off. Is it streaming anywhere?
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Sep 17, 2017 09:39
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GL was definitely the better show that got the most unfair deal due to the Ryan Reynolds movie being a massive flop. Catching up on the new Spider-man cartoon: three episodes came out yesterday, making a symbiote arc (i think, i've only seen the first one so far) and man, that's a strong debut for Dark Spider-man. I really dig the Sandman stuff, too. The show is kinda loud about how much it uses the science angle, but I like how family is a bit more subtle, yet just as important. However, most emotional and in-depth thoughts kinda fly away with how loving cool Symbiote Spider-man's debut was, that was some SSJ poo poo right there.
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TwoPair posted:Yeah I wrote off GLTAS because the pilot looked like a bargain bin PS2 game but I've seen clips in my YouTube recommended feed and it looks like it turned into a pretty good show. I keep thinking I'll watch the whole thing one of these days but then end up putting it off. Is it streaming anywhere? There was a really funny moment in the first episode where Hal meets up with a Lantern from "frontier space" (where they were) and Kilowog makes fun of Hal for wearing a mask to hide his identity in the depths of space. The first season was Hal traveling from the edge of the galaxy after Hal and Kilowog commandeer an experimental Lantern spaceship and discovering that Red Lanterns exist and they're coming for revenge. When he finally gets back to Earth Hal learns that Guy Gardner has been activated as a Lantern and that he is much more popular and famous than Hal. The second half of the show was Hal versus the Manhunters who in turn were working for the Anti-Monitor. The show wraps up most of its story arcs and doesn't end on a cliffhanger or anything like that so it isn't like other canceled cartoon shows.
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