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pokeyman posted:that would be Jew Killer3000 it could be a particularly awful form upload that stripped :'s but replaced -'s with spaces Jew:Killer-3000
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how difficult is expected to be postgres 9 to 10 migration, from ops perspective?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:how difficult is expected to be postgres 9 to 10 migration, from ops perspective? i dont know, op
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cinci zoo sniper posted:how difficult is expected to be postgres 9 to 10 migration, from ops perspective? never lose faith in postgres' excellent docs: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/release-10.html#idm45262057027344
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NihilCredo posted:never lose faith in postgres' excellent docs: eh that's plenty of moonspeak to me there, i'm just wondering if i should consider ops side of things when talking about potential postgres setup at least for our department at my job. if it can be rear end to likely mildly competent team then i would much rather wait until version 10 is out
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cinci zoo sniper posted:how difficult is expected to be postgres 9 to 10 migration, from ops perspective? ezpz
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paging dapper nerds: is there a way to have a single object property name different than the corresponding column name in the proc that doesn't generate more boilerplate than just manually mapping the class in the first place?
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i hate conferences that completely misrepresent themselves thankfully i didn't pay for this but literally all i'm getting out of it is a t-shirt
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Blinkz0rz posted:i hate conferences that completely misrepresent themselves What was it supposed to be about?
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Blinkz0rz posted:i hate conferences that completely misrepresent themselves so like 90% of them then? especially if they're not academic?
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HoboMan posted:paging dapper nerds: is there a way to have a single object property name different than the corresponding column name in the proc that doesn't generate more boilerplate than just manually mapping the class in the first place? i clean up pretty well, but i'm not sure how this qualifies me to answer your question
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C++ exceptions: Good or bad? People on the internet seem to have strong opinions but I'm not swayed much by either side. It also seems to me different people on the exceptions : yes side have pretty different ideas for what exceptions ought to be used for and when you should and shouldn't use them (like in a constructor, for example).
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meatpotato posted:C++ exceptions: Good or bad? exceptions in many languages are very difficult to use correctly or even safely, ie without perturbing the state of the program by causing things like abandoned/leaked objects, descriptors, etc. RAII in C++ tries to deal with this by forcing all resource management to be done via scoped destruction but whoops, you still need a route out of it because sometimes an object graph needs to have a dynamic lifetime and then you're right back to dealing with the risk support for constructs like try…finally in Java and Objective-C can help by ensuring cleanup, but you still need to know an exception being thrown is a risk in the first place that's why Swift doesn't have exceptions, and its error-throwing mechanism requires any call that can throw an error be prefixed by try; it also uses defer to support cleanup no matter how a scope is exited in a very natural way Common Lisp is more like C++ in that you have to assume anything can raise a condition at any time, the differences are that cleanup isn't much of a thing in Lisp because of GC, and it's actually possible to handle a condition and resume from it—and this can even work dynamically, rather than just via static/lexical scoping IMO it's worthwhile to look at the Common Lisp condition system as it's a superset of everything, and then just do whatever is most common in your language of choice
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i clean up pretty well, but i'm not sure how this qualifies me to answer your question im too pretty for databases
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what if my language of choice is Atari Jaguar DSP assembly
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eschaton posted:exceptions in many languages are very difficult to use correctly or even safely, ie without perturbing the state of the program by causing things like abandoned/leaked objects, descriptors, etc. actually this is only a problem in C++
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Swift is good op
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redleader posted:is swift any good? yes
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redleader posted:is swift any good? depends on whether you have ever used a goodlang
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it's a gently caress lot better than objective-c, so ya it's pretty good!
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it's pretty good for a toy language imo 
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happy 2^8 day, thread
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Luigi Thirty posted:what if my language of choice is Atari Jaguar DSP assembly in that case there is a free instruction, but it frees the wrong thing
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meatpotato posted:C++ exceptions: Good or bad? Good, but be aware of things like Optional<T> and other alternatives. Also RAII all the things, or die horribly.
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Wheany posted:in that case there is a free instruction, but it frees the wrong thing FREE (Rn) - Frees an allocated block of memory at the location in Rn. Errata: The block must be phrase-aligned, Jupiter must be in retrograde, and the moon must be waxing gibbous or this instruction will cause your system to self-destruct. Workaround: Never free any allocated memory.
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meatpotato posted:C++ exceptions: Good or bad? Necessary. I'm converting manually checked errors in an old C++ project to exceptions and it's not because manually checked errors worked bad although I found lots of unchecked errors in the process  but overall: pretty bad, sadly eschaton posted:that's why Swift doesn't have exceptions, and its error-throwing mechanism requires any call that can throw an error be prefixed by try and this is a major reason why C++ exceptions are bad: no way to know what part of a statement or expression may throw. resource management is by far not the only victim of unexpected exceptions, so RAII is of limited help. I really like how swift features like error throwing, enums and pattern matching work together to help you code strong integrity guarantees. I really miss it in standard C++ eschaton posted:it also uses defer to support cleanup no matter how a scope is exited in a very natural way well defer is basically scope-based RAII. shamefully C++ doesn't have an equivalent
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Lutha Mahtin posted:it's pretty good for a toy language imo  swift is an incredible language. a true modern programming language
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JewKiller 3000 posted:actually this is only a problem in C++ this is completely false but thanks for playing
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swift would have been cool if they had integrated a real gc
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holy crap Sublime Text 3 is actually out of beta
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:holy crap Sublime Text 3 is actually out of beta whaaaaa
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sublime text 3 has been in beta for as long as i've been programming
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Wheany posted:in that case there is a free instruction, but it frees the wrong thing have an opcode for free
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:holy crap Sublime Text 3 is actually out of beta nearly every dev friend i told about this, because it's shocking, has been like [pinches nose] well i prefer using <editor>
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:holy crap Sublime Text 3 is actually out of beta
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anthonypants posted:it looks different than beta did, why maybe he was working a year on adaptive theme for windows random colour thing schranz kafka posted:nearly every dev friend i told about this, because it's shocking, has been like [pinches nose] well i prefer using <editor> yeah idk i liked sublime but now sorry mates you are going to pry visual studio code out of my cold, dead hands irrespective of the platform
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the lack of async/await in java is really bad, god drat. i hope this gets added to java 10 and java 10 comes out some time this decade. trying to do things with netty is like the io equivalent of assembly language programming.
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Sapozhnik posted:trying to do things with netty is like the io equivalent of assembly language programming.
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