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KickerOfMice posted:Fixed. No, its just a dream to attack fox news by driving them through so many new hoops and other pains in the rear end that they either have to start the whole process over again where they're now some new made up legal term, which we can continue the process so long as a president is willing to gently caress them, or until the family that owns it just sticks to sports ball and movies. If Trump can just poo poo out whatever because the executive's power is just so broad we never thought we'd have to see where it could end, than why not do the same to the right? And the beautiful thing about this is it isn't attacking journalism, just whatever explicit legal term fox tries to hide itself as.
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Ogmius815 posted:Three and a half hours? Surly it isn't really that long. Some personal estimation: 3.5 hours is 210 minutes. Reading a page out loud takes a person maybe 2 minutes, but an audio book might take longer since it's more dramatic and deliberate in delivery. So, let's say between 2 and 1/4 and 2 and 1/2 minutes. So, that would mean the speech would be between, my guess, 84 and 93 pages. Incidentally I think the speech, fortuitously, is 60 pages which makes estimation the other way easier. In that case it should take between 2 1/4 and 2 and 1/2 hours. So either way, 3 and 1/2 hours must mean that poo poo is read sloooooooow.
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Socks4Hands posted:👏 For👏twelve👏years,👏you👏have👏been👏asking:👏Who👏is👏John👏Galt? As an ex-Objectivist... snnnnoooooore. The loving tedium of reading anything that sociopath wrote is enough to get me to board a train on its way into a tunnel full of gas leaks.
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alpha_destroy posted:Some personal estimation: If someone tied me to a chair and put this on I would find a way to will myself to death by the end of the first hour.
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empty whippet box posted:If someone tied me to a chair and put this on I would find a way to will myself to death by the end of the first hour. Oh me too. I've never even looked at the loving thing. gently caress that noise.
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Sep 13, 2017 05:59
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Ogmius815 posted:Three and a half hours? Surly it isn't really that long. There is a 50-page speech in the novel that is basically a sugar-coated, compressed version of her philosophy (Which, for anyone still confused about who she was, is that the poors are useless fucks who must all die. This is then demonstrated by incinerating poor people in a train tunnel fairly reminiscent of Auschwitz).
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Paracaidas posted:Clearly, this one landed. Ah drat, I hosed up.
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Ogmius815 posted:Three and a half hours? Surly it isn't really that long. Yeah it is. In the book they give the duration of the speech at three hours. It takes about that long to read it, and I could easily see it taking three hours at an actual speech. The speech repetitive and not that easy to follow, I can't imagine listening to it all in one setting.
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Pembroke Fuse posted:There is a 50-page speech in the novel that is basically a sugar-coated, compressed version of her philosophy (Which, for anyone still confused about who she was, is that the poors are useless fucks who must all die. This is then demonstrated by incinerating poor people in a train tunnel fairly reminiscent of Auschwitz). Holy gently caress, are you serious? I've avoided this book (and Ayn Rand at all costs), but I cannot believe that a)Repubs cling to her given their hard on for Israel and b)Ayn Rand's history as a leech on social services. Honestly, how can you be drawn in by this boring dogmatic speech and still enjoy her after finding out her philosophy is a failure?
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Hastings posted:Holy gently caress, are you serious? I've avoided this book (and Ayn Rand at all costs), but I cannot believe that a)Repubs cling to her given their hard on for Israel and b)Ayn Rand's history as a leech on social services. Honestly, how can you be drawn in by this boring dogmatic speech and still enjoy her after finding out her philosophy is a failure? It's the same forces that drive the alt-right and libertarianism.
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My favorite college memory is an Econ professor assigning Atlas Shrugged (with a test that was like 30% of the grade) and when we got there the TAs he had proctoring the test just gave us the answers.
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Hastings posted:Holy gently caress, are you serious? I've avoided this book (and Ayn Rand at all costs), but I cannot believe that a)Repubs cling to her given their hard on for Israel and b)Ayn Rand's history as a leech on social services. Honestly, how can you be drawn in by this boring dogmatic speech and still enjoy her after finding out her philosophy is a failure? Its not a failed philosophy if you're rich enough to not have to deal with the consequences Actually, I think being rich enoguh to avoid consequences is literally the entire point of the philosophy, and if you faced consequences, than you obviously weren't strong enough to get by
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Did anyone mentioned that the protag/whoever makes a perpetual motion machine. Also the movies had to kickstart money and had to have The Speech.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Well..never underestimate the Dems' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, of course. They tend to be so obsessed with being the "good guys" and trying to be honorable that they fall for Republican bad faith efforts nearly every time. I am encouraged by Pelosi outmaneuvering Trump, though.
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PhazonLink posted:Did anyone mentioned that the protag/whoever makes a perpetual motion machine. That's like the least worst thing in the book.
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Hastings posted:Holy gently caress, are you serious? I've avoided this book (and Ayn Rand at all costs), but I cannot believe that a)Repubs cling to her given their hard on for Israel and b)Ayn Rand's history as a leech on social services. Honestly, how can you be drawn in by this boring dogmatic speech and still enjoy her after finding out her philosophy is a failure? I'm not entirely sure why you think modern Republicans would not enjoy Ayn Rands stances on Israel: Ayn Rand called Palestinians "almost totally primitive savages who have not changed for years, who are racist and resent Israel because it is bringing industry, and intelligence, and modern technology- into their stagnation" and declared that America should "side against the savages" in the Middle East. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU Also Ayn Rand was basically a closeted white supremacist. The following is an excerpt from a speech she gave to the 1974 graduating class of West Point. quote:Certainly slavery was a contradiction. But before you criticize this country, remember that that is a remnant of the politics and the philosophies of Europe and of the rest of the world. The black slaves were sold into slavery, in many cases, by other black tribes. Slavery is something which only the United States of America abolished. Historically, there was no such concept as the right of the individual. The United States is based on that concept. So that so as long as men held to the American political philosophy, they had to come to the point, even of a civil war, but of eliminating the contradiction with which they could not live—namely, the institution of slavery.
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Hastings posted:Holy gently caress, are you serious? I've avoided this book (and Ayn Rand at all costs), but I cannot believe that a)Repubs cling to her given their hard on for Israel and b)Ayn Rand's history as a leech on social services. Honestly, how can you be drawn in by this boring dogmatic speech and still enjoy her after finding out her philosophy is a failure? Honestly I don't think very many people actually take the time to read the speech. The book it self is pretty easy to follow, It's mostly one of the heroes lecturing whichever strawman happens to be propped in front of him. The speech really just rehashes all that in one giant block. You could replace the entire speech with "John Galt spoke at length about his economic philosophy" and you wouldn't lose any of the narrative. You could slap "and the room broke out in applause" to the end of any of the smaller lectures and it would be indistinguishable from any other forwarded crap you see.
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PhazonLink posted:Did anyone mentioned that the protag/whoever makes a perpetual motion machine. One of the great ironies of life is the belief that shadowy corporations are hiding the secret to free energy while lionizing a character who does exactly that.
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There's really no point to reading the book anyway when the first 2/3 of Bioshock exists, and is much much quicker and interesting to get through.
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PhazonLink posted:Did anyone mentioned that the protag/whoever makes a perpetual motion machine. All you require to have a libertarian state is an engine that produces infinite energy at no cost. How about we call that "step 1" and then have "disband the government" as "step 2"?
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Dejawesp posted:All you require to have a libertarian state is an engine that produces infinite energy at no cost. You also need a minecraft map - an infinite 2-d grid. Won't work on a sphere with limited land.
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Dejawesp posted:All you require to have a libertarian state is an engine that produces infinite energy at no cost. I always find it fascinating that libertarians can be taken in to the idea of endless, eternal fuel for the capitalist engine (be it free energy or infinite raw resources), but the idea that human labor might ever be rendered obsolete by capitalistic industrial forces to a significant degree is considered absurdly unrealistic. And by fascinating, I mean unrelentingly infuriating.
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Of course idiots that think they are smart like the book. Its central point is "you are brilliant, everyone else is a drag on you and anyone that tells you otherwise is a worthless leech."
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alpha_destroy posted:Some personal estimation: Most audiobooks will be read at something like ~140 words per minute, varying to 160 with lots of small words and 120 with really dense stuff. Your average person will tend to speak around 160, smart people not trained in public speaking can speak upwards of 220+. You can take tests for reading speed online, but it's not uncommon to be able to quietly read at like 300. My source is using audiobooks and podcasts as practice material for dictation in court reporting school. Fun fact, Cecil from welcome to nightvale speaks at exactly 140 words per minute almost all the time, consistently. It's what makes him sometimes sound unnerving. Even if they do a skit and he gets excited or feigns physical exertion, he'll still deliver lines at 140. It's impressive as hell.
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Guess who's back! http://gizmodo.com/the-mooch-is-back-with-some-kind-of-internet-venture-b-1805648175
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Uglycat posted:You also need a minecraft map - an infinite 2-d grid. Won't work on a sphere with limited land. I like the part of the book where they just happen to discover a copper mine in their little valley. Otherwise the copper mining savant would look pretty ridiculous polishing shoes for tips so he could survive. You know it's not a bad book to have read just for the sheer absurdity of it all. Like when a steel mill is doing well so the government needs to demonstrate that it's doing bad so they can nationalize it. The US government sends the unions start a riot inside the steel mill but the non union workers fight the union workers to restore order in the mill. A loyal worker is shot in the chest by the union guys and thrown down a hill and left for dead. But he crawls up the hill so that he can spend his last breaths telling his employer what happened before dying in his arms.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:http://www.nbc29.com/story/36351919/black-lives-matter-group-covers-uva-jefferson-statue-lists-demands Jefferson was a noted slave owner with a reputation for brutality who raped Sally Hemmings when she was just 14, and then kept her as a slave for life, and who's policy as president began a 100+ year era of brutal genocidal actions against Native peoples. Jefferson was a piece of poo poo with a reputation that is far from "relatively unimpeachable". He was a piece of poo poo who no more deserves to be lionized than the garbage from the CSA.
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And thankfully, now that Trump has equated Washington with Lee, we already have the go ahead to hate them for the horrible things they did in life! A smart president, even a racist one, would probably pick Washington over Lee in terms of outward praise, but no, make the connection that they're both slave owners. Take down the iconary of founding fathers. Give us a reason to hate because you touched it, agent orange. Would all of these Southern Heritage cry babies defend taking down New York's Boot Monument to Benedict Arnold? After all he's just like Lee in that he fought against the US! Crabtree fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Trump is setting the stage for the New Founding Fathers and The Purge, mark my words.
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BigglesSWE posted:Trump is setting the stage for the New Founding Fathers and The Purge, mark my words. Well if they're going to carve his fat face into the side of a mountain then they better start clearing the rockies of forest because they're going to need ever inch of rock they can get.
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They sre selling tshirts https://teespring.com/stores/tedandsexuallposts   
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:They sre selling tshirts I really love how they caught the essence of his Droopy Dog face.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:They sre selling tshirts Who would actually wear these in public?
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There Bias Two posted:Who would actually wear these in public? Depends if they're around him and poking fun. Never underestimate just how tribal and tacky die hard partisan voters are.
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There Bias Two posted:Who would actually wear these in public? You've never been to a death metal show before, have you?
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There Bias Two posted:Who would actually wear these in public? I would wear one at a townhall ran by cruz but literally that is it Thankfully i live in WI so i don't have to see that clown-face-slime being in person ever
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:You've never been to a death metal show before, have you? The font on that is farrrrrrrr to smooth for a death metal show, needs more spikes
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CyberPingu posted:The font on that is farrrrrrrr to smooth for a death metal show, needs more spikes I'm just saying. "Who would wear that in public?" is a pretty big group. Thrash revival band Municipal Waste has this: 
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Tbf he doesnt know they exist. Also he doesn't have any tokens of that flavor with him. It's like the thing from earlier in the year when Donnie asked a black woman reporter to set up a meeting with The Black Congressional Caucus when she asked why he hasn't meet with them yet. For some reason Sleepy Ben, that lovely cop, and that black woman kept not setting up a meeting even though he asked a million times. PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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