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a cock shaped fruit posted:They can be done well, but 99% of people have no idea how to do it. The best ones are like football play analysis, with commentary over that happened in the turn, with some key focus on dice rolls and player reactions. Yeah, I can't believe it when the cameras are rolling and all that's on screen is a close up of the table, showing the space where hits, wounds, saves etc are all being rolled. Not even making an effort to go fast. It's amazing. Who can watch that for 2 hours? Edit: top of page. Picture of converted leman russ tanks: 
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What do you use for your plasma cell to get crisp lines like that?
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a cock shaped fruit posted:They can be done well, but 99% of people have no idea how to do it. The best ones are like football play analysis, with commentary over that happened in the turn, with some key focus on dice rolls and player reactions. Yeah exactly. People are guilty of it with written ones as well but those don't take 2 hours of my life up. I do think there's a niche for videos which aren't rubbish but I don't know that it's necessarily being filled right now.
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OhDearGodNo posted:What do you use for your plasma cell to get crisp lines like that? Small detail brush, fill the whole thing in with Stegadon scale green, then hit just the coils with something like the Teclis blue. When painting the coils make sure you have almost no paint on the bristles. Then you kind of dry brush the coils using the edge of the brush, not the tip, if you try to literally trace the lines you are likely to get paint in between them. Then I shade it with a blue glaze and hit the coils with progressively lighter colors like blue horror and then white, covering less and less of the coils. I know it sounds a tad complicated but it isnt.
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:drat you guys and your super fine and straight highlights! I think that Lucius looks pretty drat good. Problem with edging is there is no real shortcut for them. Model quality also makes it harder, that Lucius looks like finecast so it's harder to properly do compared to the new stuff.
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Genghis Cohen posted:Who can watch that for 2 hours? I'd be willing to wager that all the paid subscribers for Miniwargaming et al, insist upon seeing every role and every action and complain loudly in the comments if that stuff is left out.
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So nice to see the classic Cadian 8th scheme making a return again.
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Corrode posted:Is it just me that really dislikes video battle reports? I hugely prefer words + pictures and I wish more people still did them. I'm with you grandpa. Since writing reports is a dead medium and everyone is on the video battle report wagon I prefer either end of turn summaries or the canhammer or FLG shortform where the film reactions (or just voice over) in front of a top down greenscreen going at like 5x speed.
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The problem with making video reports snappy is that editing 3 hours of video into an interesting 10-20 minute video is a lot of work and takes a lot of post work. And also takes a skillset that most people just don't have.
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TheChirurgeon posted:The problem with making video reports snappy is that editing 3 hours of video into an interesting 10-20 minute video is a lot of work and takes a lot of post work. And also takes a skillset that most people just don't have. I've been watching Tabletop Tactics battle reports while painting. While they don't edit down to 20 minutes, they do only summarize movement phases (other than advance rolls) and in later turns they start summarizing more and more. Unlike most battle reports everyone seems comfortable on camera and they manage to light it well and have clear audio for everyone.
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The problem I have with video battle reports is mostly down to people wittering on over the minutiae of the rules, or that they present it in real time. A bit of editing and clean presentation goes a long way to making something watchable. Oh, and don't stick lovely music all over it.The Bee posted:Yeah, I think both sides are being kind of reactionary here. I'm interested in seeing how this graph pans out when analyzed, even if I think there are a million factors more likely than MARINE BIAS. I don't disagree that it could be interesting to know the breakdown of what our community plays. The reason I reacted as I did is that Goose has previously expressed a belief as smug as it is misguided, that this thread is somehow hostile toward non-Imperium armies and the people who play them. As a reaction to people disagreeing with him. This seems to have been a pathetic attempt at a 'gotcha' to prove it.
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Booley posted:I've been watching Tabletop Tactics battle reports while painting. While they don't edit down to 20 minutes, they do only summarize movement phases (other than advance rolls) and in later turns they start summarizing more and more. Unlike most battle reports everyone seems comfortable on camera and they manage to light it well and have clear audio for everyone. They're the only ones I can stand to watch anymore. A big part of it for me is that they are to genuinely enjoy making these videos in a way that I really don't see from MWG etc. I don't really mind the length since the only time I watch is when I'm painting for a bit of background noise
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Booley posted:I've been watching Tabletop Tactics battle reports while painting. While they don't edit down to 20 minutes, they do only summarize movement phases (other than advance rolls) and in later turns they start summarizing more and more. Unlike most battle reports everyone seems comfortable on camera and they manage to light it well and have clear audio for everyone. Oh yeah, gamers are not exactly photogenic at the best of times and there always seems to be one guy who has the kind of personality dysfunction which shouldn't be on camera.
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Corrode posted:Oh yeah, gamers are not exactly photogenic at the best of times and there always seems to be one guy who has the kind of personality dysfunction which shouldn't be on camera. I think these guys (tabletop tactics) are all ex-drama students. They're either lacking crippling nerd disorders or at least able to hide them for a few hours so you get actual friendly banter instead of cringe. I tried watching MWG once and it was a mess of mumbling, constantly changing volume, and inability to see what's going on.
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Corrode posted:Is it just me that really dislikes video battle reports? I hugely prefer words + pictures and I wish more people still did them. Honestly I prefer words + pictures in just about everything, even most painting tutorials. I'm a luddite and YouTube has ruined the Internet.
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:drat you guys and your super fine and straight highlights! Kabuki Shipoopi posted:Been working on my boy here, sorry for the tablet images: That's a nice pink, what's the recipe for that?
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So I ended up with $200 in GW gift cards for my birthday. I'm debating if I want to get a bunch of units I've been needing to fill out my AdMech (Syndonian Dragoons, Fulgurinte Electro-Priests, maybe some Kastelans), get the collectors edition codex when (if) it comes out Saturday, or get a knight to match with my AdMech force. I'm probably going to wait until after the codex drops to get all the info. What say you, goons?
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100% wait on the codex. It's only a couple days at this point and there's no telling what rules will change
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Zuul the Cat posted:So I ended up with $200 in GW gift cards for my birthday. I'm debating if I want to get a bunch of units I've been needing to fill out my AdMech (Syndonian Dragoons, Fulgurinte Electro-Priests, maybe some Kastelans), get the collectors edition codex when (if) it comes out Saturday, or get a knight to match with my AdMech force. The "Collector's Edition" will be worthless as soon as a new edition comes out, and unless you're the type of person who really cares about an old book I would get a physical model. I say go with the Knight.
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https://www.warhammer-tactics.com/s...rnament-players Found this little article posted up on a local page, what's your guys thoughts on it?
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Corrode posted:Is it just me that really dislikes video battle reports? I hugely prefer words + pictures and I wish more people still did them. My problem with them is that they're usually an hour and a half long, if not longer. The MWG guys also try and talk too much and make it funny when they're not actually terribly funny dudes. I have plans for when I get around to doing them myself that would actually make them watchable, but that's still a little ways away. TheChirurgeon posted:The problem with making video reports snappy is that editing 3 hours of video into an interesting 10-20 minute video is a lot of work and takes a lot of post work. And also takes a skillset that most people just don't have. I'm looking forward to doing this to myself
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SRM posted:I'm looking forward to doing this to myself godspeed, fuckboi Unrelated, Metalica is up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/13/forge-world-focus-metalica-sep13gw-homepage-post-4/ Very cool, and the warlord trait is STRONK, but I don't think these are strong enough to not take Cawl, either The Advance and shoot RF might be interesting on Kataphrons, since they're slow as gently caress
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Hencoe posted:https://www.warhammer-tactics.com/s...rnament-players He writes it well but all he's doing is replying to someone's generalizations with "nuh uh" and generalizing in the opposite direction.
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Next Forge World preview is up. Seem to be pretty mobile. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/13/forge-world-focus-metalica-sep13gw-homepage-post-4/ I like that Skitarri strategem too, though it seems like it would be better with a reroll aura.
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Hencoe posted:https://www.warhammer-tactics.com/s...rnament-players It's basically 'water is wet' - factual but meaningless. The kind of guys who sneer at the whole idea of tournaments or competitive play are not gonna be convinced by it, and functioning humans already understand everything it says. SRM posted:My problem with them is that they're usually an hour and a half long, if not longer. The MWG guys also try and talk too much and make it funny when they're not actually terribly funny dudes. I have plans for when I get around to doing them myself that would actually make them watchable, but that's still a little ways away. I remember you talking about doing them. I enjoy your text and picture ones so hopefully the same production values can come to the videos. I'd try myself but all my gaming is pick-ups with super casual acquaintances so it wouldn't really work out.
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TheChirurgeon posted:godspeed, fuckboi Kataphrons (as of the index) can already advance and shoot with no negative modifiers to shooting, but only get to advance D3". I think all of their guns, except for the Flamer and Phosphor Blaster, are all heavy. Zark the Damned posted:Next Forge World preview is up. Seem to be pretty mobile. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/13/forge-world-focus-metalica-sep13gw-homepage-post-4/ I really like that so far the traits for the foreworlds are pushing and enabling people to use Skitarii more. They're such cool models, and they desperately needed something.
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Corrode posted:It's basically 'water is wet' - factual but meaningless. The kind of guys who sneer at the whole idea of tournaments or competitive play are not gonna be convinced by it, and functioning humans already understand everything it says. I think it would've been better had the guy asked the people why they felt that way and addressed that, instead of just going with the 'nuh uh' response to their claims. I don't attend tournaments for anything because of attending tournaments previously. I don't sneer at people that do, but the kind of people and attitudes I ran into made it not worth it. Though maybe I need to get over it since I'm 1,000 miles away from my friends and have become a nerd hermit (nermit?).
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Hencoe posted:https://www.warhammer-tactics.com/s...rnament-players It seems like an exercise in missing the point right from where he starts going 'well the dictionary defines overpowered as this' and 'taking Guilliman and 5 stormravens is fine'. Given he is trying to.argue tournament players aren't douches it seems like a bit of a self own.
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Fluff question: Is there a "Pro-Imperial" group in the AdMech? I mean, guys who *don't* want to rip up the Treaty of Olympus and think the Imperium is just fine and dandy to fight alongside of without wanting to gently caress them in the rear end as soon as their backs are turned (which, with mechadendrites, isn't usually a requirement)? More or less, are there any "This Guy" factions of the AdMech or are they all Thats? ("This Guy"ness obviously being a very relative term given the setting...)
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Thundercloud posted:It seems like an exercise in missing the point right from where he starts going 'well the dictionary defines overpowered as this' and 'taking Guilliman and 5 stormravens is fine'. Yeah, but if he isn't full of poo poo and the encounter did actually consist of five guys deciding they didn't like him based on the fact that he sometimes goes to tournaments, nothing he said would have convinced them otherwise anyway.
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Schadenboner posted:Fluff question: I dunno, but i'm interested in knowing this as well. In fact, are there any Black Library books that deal with AdMech primarily?
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Corrode posted:I remember you talking about doing them. I enjoy your text and picture ones so hopefully the same production values can come to the videos. I'd try myself but all my gaming is pick-ups with super casual acquaintances so it wouldn't really work out. It's basically just been me waiting to have the right setup to film them comfortably. My new place has enough space that I could feasibly play and film at the same time, and the lighting isn't awful.
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Zuul the Cat posted:I dunno, but i'm interested in knowing this as well. There's the Forge of Mars series and the Horus Heresy book Mechanicum, I think they're all by Graham McNeill.
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Schadenboner posted:There's the Forge of Mars series and the Horus Heresy book Mechanicum, I think they're all by Graham McNeill. There's also Priests of Mars, which is kinda like BSG/FTL Admech edition.
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With the announcement of Enginseers becoming HQ, I was gonna grab some from GW. Single Tech-Priest Engisneer from GW is $30. (The second one is $15, but i'm not a fan of the model). Single Titan Tech-Priest Enginseer from FW is $15. Grabbed two of those instead. (Plus i dig their look).
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SRM posted:It's basically just been me waiting to have the right setup to film them comfortably. My new place has enough space that I could feasibly play and film at the same time, and the lighting isn't awful. Would you even have to worry about filming, necessarily? You could take still shots based on deployment, and at the end of every phase or turn, and then write down the cogent points to be set for narration afterwards? If you approached is systematically with a checklist or something I'm sure you could put something together that's worth a watch. And then maybe leave some time at the end for reactions shot on your phone? You could approach it like a camhammer video. Also, Felime and I are headed to Games 'n' Stuff in Glen Burnie on Sunday! We're set to have a game at 11 AM (ish) and I'm willing to stick around after for a second game if anyone wants to show up. Maybe a couple of goons show up and we can have a little goon hoe-down or something? That would be fun! The Sex Cannon fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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