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MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Teddy Roosevelt was obsessed with military honour iirc

Until his son got killed in WW1. He wasn't quite so gung-ho after that.

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

What's this communist bullshit

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Cory Chase does stuff other than faux-incest stuff these days?

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017

LingcodKilla posted:

Sorry no. I'll pay for nuclear weapons to destroy the earth a few time over, I'll pay for bombs to kill the poo poo out of brown people in the desert BUT ILL BE DAMNED IF I PAY ONE CENT TO HELP FREELOADING AMERICANS!

No, no....its, "I'll pay seven figures on advertisements banning gay marriage (business people ALWAYS know how to use their money) but won't even consider spending six figures to keep the general populous healthy."

"...and then I will complain and further moralize when the general populous isn't fit to work in my right-to-work factory in my bled-dry Republican-run state."

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Godholio posted:

The rich didn't usually go to war back then, either.

The rich went to war as a matter of manliness and honor back then, but it was typically the sons of the nobility, who hadn't yet truly inherited their wealth as their own. Hell it was like that in WWI as well for places that had established titular nobility (i.e. Britain). They'd either purchase or inherit commissions and go off to add glory to the family name (or die a muddy death in anything but noble fashion)

Oddly enough that kind of stopped being a thing after WWI.

MA-Horus posted:

Until his son got killed in WW1. He wasn't quite so gung-ho after that.

Kipling though? Yeah that rule britannia pro patria et regis stuff wasn't satire. Dude basically got served the death of his son, said thanks, and asked for seconds. Empire is a hell of a drug.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Sep 13, 2017

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



MA-Horus posted:

Until his son got killed in WW1. He wasn't quite so gung-ho after that.

He had a full-on death wish after his first wife died, iirc from that PBS documentary about him and FDR- which is superb, btw. He just didn't expect his son to precede him, so it cut him down a bit at the knees.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

What's this communist bullshit

Don't care if you call it the hanky panky dance, loving sign me up. I don't see any reality being possible where the taxes cost more than what I pay now and/or it gives worse coverage than the bullshit "free market" of health care provides.

Don't even make the program mandatory or anything so Cletus "MUH RIGHTS" J Yokel can't bitch about it. Just set it up, let people choose on their own and let the raging God drat hypocrisy of insurance providers whining about prices being too low blare out across the nation. Let the collective shrug of "eh, pound sand assholes, this is a better deal" greet their money-over-people poo poo fuckery.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Mr. Mambold posted:

He had a full-on death wish after his first wife died, iirc from that PBS documentary about him and FDR- which is superb, btw. He just didn't expect his son to precede him, so it cut him down a bit at the knees.

Yeah, his diary the day his wife died just has a big X through it, and the next note is "The light has gone out of my life".

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

On the one hand, my out of pocket costs would go up because I have a free PPO. On the other hand, it would be nice to not worry about health benefits ever, so I'm fine with it.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

MA-Horus posted:

Yeah, his diary the day his wife died just has a big X through it, and the next note is "The light has gone out of my life".

Wife AND his mom.

That's some rough loving poo poo right there.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

LingcodKilla posted:

Cory Chase does stuff other than faux-incest stuff these days?

All porn is incest based now, sorry. This really doesn't bother me much cause I have 0 siblings but the daddy-daughter stuff is super creepy

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Hot Karl Marx posted:

All porn is incest based now, sorry. This really doesn't bother me much cause I have 0 siblings but the daddy-daughter stuff is super creepy

PornHub's "trending in the US" section is a microcosm of why Trump won.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

PornHub's "trending in the US" section is a microcosm of why Trump won.

Pretty sure it looks like Canada's as well (lots of step siblings loving)[Canada is slowly sinking into the depths of bullshit the USA has right now]

Good info on Canada vs proposed single payer I posted earlier

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/907951832441540608

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Wouldn't rich widows have had servants who could go to the post office for them?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I've wondered that myself. Is the step sibling loving thing a result of poor white americans having 6 kids with 2 different spouses, resulting in a large number of step-families.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
https://www.fastcompany.com/40466047/two-ex-googlers-want-to-make-bodegas-and-mom-and-pop-corner-stores-obsolete

How are people not gonna just smash these things open and grab everything

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


psydude posted:

I've wondered that myself. Is the step sibling loving thing a result of poor white americans having 6 kids with 2 different spouses, resulting in a large number of step-families.
More like walking right up to the line without explicitly stepping over. I don't have a sister so I can easily just ignore it but I imagine it's probably weird for people who do.

Coldwar timewarp
May 8, 2007



Hot Karl Marx posted:

Pretty sure it looks like Canada's as well (lots of step siblings loving)[Canada is slowly sinking into the depths of bullshit the USA has right now]

Good info on Canada vs proposed single payer I posted earlier

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/907951832441540608

As it should be. Don't be a stupid democrat and start your proposal from a position of compromise. That's the problem with the centrist garbage, they cede ground before negotiations begin.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Mid-air refueling seems like something you'd want AF1 to have.

I know it's going to cost a couple billion bucks by the time all is said and done, but it seems like the president's flying HQ is something that we should spend the money on.

https://twitter.com/DavidMDrucker/status/907989414206431233

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011
Yeah, that is an extremely bad decision that they will end up paying Boeing millions of dollars to fix in the future.

Casimir Radon posted:

More like walking right up to the line without explicitly stepping over. I don't have a sister so I can easily just ignore it but I imagine it's probably weird for people who do.
Can't we all just agree that it's extremely gross and that we can't wait for the industry to move on to something, anything else?

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
How often do they use midair refueling now? A 747 with only 50 people on it doesn't seem like a big gas hog, but I guess in the rare case that everything on the ground is glass/fire, it's good to work from the air for a while.

Dead Reckoning posted:

Can't we all just agree that it's extremely gross and that we can't wait for the industry to move on to something, anything else?


Oh, it's only gonna get weirder

Slim Pickens fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Sep 13, 2017

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Air Force One is supposedly Donnie Dumbfuck's favorite movie, and that plane could do midair refueling. This administration is going to damage every program it gets its stupid hands on.

Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Sep 13, 2017

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Slim Pickens posted:

How often do they use midair refueling now? A 747 with only 50 people on it doesn't seem like a big gas hog, but I guess in the rare case that everything on the ground is glass/fire, it's good to work from the air for a while.



Oh, it's only gonna get weirder

The article says the VC-25s have never used aerial refueling.

Doesn't seem right - surely they have to do it every so often for qualification? Even if they haven't used it operationally surely the E-4 must all the time and in a crisis AF1 becomes one basically?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Slim Pickens posted:

How often do they use midair refueling now? A 747 with only 50 people on it doesn't seem like a big gas hog, but I guess in the rare case that everything on the ground is glass/fire, it's good to work from the air for a while.



Oh, it's only gonna get weirder

Clown sewer sex is the next big thing.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
Enough about your sex life

https://twitter.com/ScaramucciPost/status/907784023770099713

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Hey guys remember about two weeks ago when we thought WWIII might start? Yeah me neither.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Sorry Shim.... no wait wrong Mike Flynn

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mike-flynn-s-son-subject-federal-russia-probe-n800741?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_np

By the time this is all over, someone will be turning on someone else and families will be ruined :toot:

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


LingcodKilla posted:

Clown sewer sex is the next big thing.
That E.T. porn that SA reviewed a long time ago. All porn will look like that in 2 years.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Coldwar timewarp posted:

As it should be. Don't be a stupid democrat and start your proposal from a position of compromise. That's the problem with the centrist garbage, they cede ground before negotiations begin.

Fully covering dental, vision, rehab, and prescriptions is batshit loving insane. Canada's already having serious issues paying for their UHC, and they cover a fraction of Sanders' own plan.

While the United States manifestly needs universal healthcare, that's best accomplished with a multi-payer system that allows for supplemental insurance to cover things like prescriptions, vision, dental and the like.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp
scat.avi was ahead of its time

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

The Iron Rose posted:

Fully covering dental, vision, rehab, and prescriptions is batshit loving insane. Canada's already having serious issues paying for their UHC, and they cover a fraction of Sanders' own plan.

While the United States manifestly needs universal healthcare, that's best accomplished with a multi-payer system that allows for supplemental insurance to cover things like prescriptions, vision, dental and the like.

Art of the deal!

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

The Iron Rose posted:

Fully covering dental, vision, rehab, and prescriptions is batshit loving insane. Canada's already having serious issues paying for their UHC, and they cover a fraction of Sanders' own plan.

While the United States manifestly needs universal healthcare, that's best accomplished with a multi-payer system that allows for supplemental insurance to cover things like prescriptions, vision, dental and the like.

So throw the whole plan at Republicans and let them make that argument. Do the same poo poo they've been doing for loving decades. If you're arguing that covering dental, vision, and rehab is just a bridge too far then great, the argument is about what the program should cover not whether we need to get government out of the way and let the free market skull gently caress the children of the poor before we grind up their parent's bones to squeeze one more drop of blood out of that stone.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

I loving hope they do. gently caress these guys

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

The Iron Rose posted:

Fully covering dental, vision, rehab, and prescriptions is batshit loving insane. Canada's already having serious issues paying for their UHC, and they cover a fraction of Sanders' own plan.

While the United States manifestly needs universal healthcare, that's best accomplished with a multi-payer system that allows for supplemental insurance to cover things like prescriptions, vision, dental and the like.

Oh, that's what would be best?

Thanks for letting us know!

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

unbutthurtable posted:

Oh, that's what would be best?

Thanks for letting us know!

Best, who can say.

but it'd be better than the pie in the sky future Sanders' bill offers.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Hmm maybe if we stopped allowing corporations and the mega rich loopholes to get out of paying taxes we would generate billions in revenue to pay for social services but this would be wrong because freeloading

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Bootstraps!

Dwanyelle
Jan 13, 2008

ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE CIVILIANS THEY'RE ALL VALID TARGETS
I'm a huge dickbag ignore me
I'm glad sanders is bringing a full communism now bill forward.

We're not gonna get it, but it's definitely a good starting point to actually end up getting something.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

maffew buildings posted:

Hmm maybe if we stopped allowing corporations and the mega rich loopholes to get out of paying taxes we would generate billions in revenue to pay for social services but this would be wrong because freeloading

but that would stifle job growth!! You see, we feed the horse oats and the sparrows still have plenty leftover to eat!

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Justice Dept tells Senate to pound sand regarding Comey firing interviews.

This is likely an indicator that the investigation is kicking into even higher gears.

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