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byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

loquacius posted:

I'm not far into this but so far there's a lot of "people are bad for criticizing Clinton under any circumstances" chatter


The movie in question is An Inconvenient Truth, btw, not "I'm still mad about the election I lost and you all failed me :mad:", and it did a lot singlehandedly to revive climate change as an issue, and also it came out 6 loving years after he lost his election, so in conclusion it's really not hypocritical that nobody's mad at Al Gore for making that loving movie, Jesus Christ

lol you think democraps care

ed balls cares

https://twitter.com/edballs/status/63623585020915713?lang=en

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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
everything's being branded and shilled like crazy it's so loving pervasive in politics now and twitter makes it easy to sell :tif:

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://mobile.twitter.com/SenKamalaHarris/status/907986848001216514

right

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Holy poo poo, she didn't bring up it being an economic gain or saving money or something like that, did she?

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
people are selling truth now, they're capitalizing on it while pretending its an integrity issue :psyduck:

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

you expected harris to do the left thing ? :thunk:

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

SKULL.GIF posted:

Holy poo poo, she didn't bring up it being an economic gain or saving money or something like that, did she?

yes

twice in that 51-second clip

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Frijolero posted:

You're arguing with nobody, and the whole "Leftists want to coddle white racists" thing is fake news.

I literally just skipped 2000 pages of longposting leftists in a meme board giving a terrible amount of care to rural whites lol

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
i support medicare for all because i believe medicare billing experts are an underserved faction within the electorate

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
she's hoping Twitter leftists will just assume the clip says the same thing as the tweet and not actually watch it:thunk:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Man Musk posted:

I literally just skipped 2000 pages of longposting leftists in a meme board giving a terrible amount of care to rural whites lol

"the way I know you're saying this thing you claim you're not saying is that I didn't read your posts saying it :smug:"

also nice casual substitution of "rural whites" for "white racists"

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star

Man Musk posted:

I literally just skipped 2000 pages of longposting leftists in a meme board giving a terrible amount of care to rural whites lol

Rurals aren't all white, they're all people, and they're all allies in the class struggle. Hope this helps.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

loquacius posted:

I'm not far into this but so far there's a lot of "people are bad for criticizing Clinton under any circumstances" chatter


The movie in question is An Inconvenient Truth, btw, not "I'm still mad about the election I lost and you all failed me :mad:", and it did a lot singlehandedly to revive climate change as an issue, and also it came out 6 loving years after he lost his election, so in conclusion it's really not hypocritical that nobody's mad at Al Gore for making that loving movie, Jesus Christ


The interesting part was that the criticism is coming from the same channels that gave DJT multifaceted coverage and reserved emails as exclusively HRC coverage... ie the failing media getting away with murder on the horse race narrative

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Lastgirl posted:

what really happened from what happened, the true truth of the truth!


verification code:042069

a fractal spiral of What Happenings, What Happenings all the way down, smothered in What Happensings foreval delitized

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Man Musk posted:

The interesting part was that the criticism is coming from the same channels that gave DJT multifaceted coverage and reserved emails as exclusively HRC coverage... ie the failing media getting away with murder on the horse race narrative

AFAICT it's coming from suck zoners actually

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

538 is ground zero for blaming everything else but Clinton for her loss so of course this is going to be complete trash.

These are the same people who thought the INVISIBLE PRIMARY was going to crown Jeb! the Republican nominee until about the Nevada caucus.

E: I'm not saying outside events and actors did not hurt Clinton, but the PRIMARY reason she lost is on her and her campaign, not those outside factors.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

loquacius posted:

"the way I know you're saying this thing you claim you're not saying is that I didn't read your posts saying it :smug:"

also nice casual substitution of "rural whites" for "white racists"

Ya nice gotcha posting smh this is why democrats can't win elections

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Montasque posted:

538 is ground zero for blaming everything else but Clinton for her loss so of course this is going to be complete trash.

These are the same people who thought the INVISIBLE PRIMARY was going to crown Jeb! the Republican nominee until about the Nevada caucus.

nate silver retire bitcj

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

We need 538 to do a What Happened to figure out how they went from being always right in 2012 to always wrong in 2016

Personally I think it's the same deal (hubris)

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Man Musk posted:

Ya nice gotcha posting smh this is why democrats can't win elections

sorry your post was bad I guess

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Montasque posted:

538 is ground zero for blaming everything else but Clinton for her loss so of course this is going to be complete trash.

These are the same people who thought the INVISIBLE PRIMARY was going to crown Jeb! the Republican nominee until about the Nevada caucus.

E: I'm not saying outside events and actors did not hurt Clinton, but the PRIMARY reason she lost is on her and her campaign, not those outside factors.

did you even read the article

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Frijolero posted:

Dave Weigel reported that it does not, Bernie's website also says no copays.

But Jeff Stein has read a draft and it does include copays.


My guess is copays remain because Bernie doesn't want to rock the boat too much. We'll find out very soon.

the snippet Stein posted begins "the Secretary may" so presumably it just means HHS retains the option to impose copays on certain services if it wishes, but :iiam:

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Typo posted:

did you even read the article

Yeah I did. And what part of it wasn't complete trash?

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

loquacius posted:

sorry your post was bad I guess

dont be modest, you know bad posts very well

tower time
Jul 30, 2008




I have been very consistent in my support for universal healthcare, but only for rural whites with confederate flags on their trucks. This was and continues to be my sole reason for supporting one Bernard Sanders

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

loquacius posted:

r/s4p has posted this handy infographic



drat right he's got both MA senators :wrongcity:

both of my senators are crap, surprise surprise

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

deadgoon posted:

i support medicare for all because i believe medicare billing experts are an underserved faction within the electorate

there's an entire decently paying industry that revolves entirely around navigating 20 different insurance companies billing policies that are specifically designed to make it hard to get them to pay

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

dont be modest, you know bad posts very well

that was the "I'm sorry" of a doctor who knows he has done all he can for his patient, but it's simply too severe a case

tower time posted:

I have been very consistent in my support for universal healthcare, but only for rural whites with confederate flags on their trucks. This was and continues to be my sole reason for supporting one Bernard Sanders

"did you know 150 years ago all socialists were racists, checkmate alt-left :smug:"
:joyreidsay:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


lool before hillary did the "actually good and bad things are exactly the same" she was talking about hamilton



its like a bad joke

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

safely sodomized posted:

lool before hillary did the "actually good and bad things are exactly the same" she was talking about hamilton



its like a bad joke

oh ok

thanks for clarifying hilldawg

I now understand why people hate Hamilton

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

safely sodomized posted:

lool before hillary did the "actually good and bad things are exactly the same" she was talking about hamilton



its like a bad joke

lmao holy poo poo

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I love Hillary offering to get Erza Hamilton tickets because of loving course crony capitalism grifters look out for one another

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

safely sodomized posted:

lool before hillary did the "actually good and bad things are exactly the same" she was talking about hamilton



its like a bad joke

this is the worst possible answer

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

anime was right posted:

this is the worst possible answer

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
it suddenly occurs to me that the only reason hamilton is even a thing is that hillary saw it, really liked it, and then ordered the dems to promote it at every opportunity

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

well but you know its always been thus. I mean, if you've seen harry potter and the death hallows, harry doesnt actually try to dismantle the wizard heirarchy--

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Taintrunner posted:

I love Hillary offering to get Erza Hamilton tickets because of loving course crony capitalism grifters look out for one another

i like her implication that Ezra hasn't seen it because, despite trying, he wasn't able to score tickets

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

anime was right posted:

this is the worst possible answer

apologize to mike pence's wife right now

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Joementum posted:

i like her implication that Ezra hasn't seen it because, despite trying, he wasn't able to score tickets

she's good at reading people, relatable even

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Montasque posted:

Yeah I did. And what part of it wasn't complete trash?

natesilver: In practice what probably happened was: The environment was pretty neutral or maybe slightly negative for a Democratic candidate. Clinton was a below-average candidate, but not terrible. Trump was also a below-average candidate, but his weaknesses weren’t as much of a liability as the media assumed. All of those worked out to Clinton winning the popular vote, but only narrowly. And Trump benefited from the Electoral College, of course.


seems fairly accurate imo, Clinton was always a weak candidate and the media/Trump zeroed in on her weaknesses as a candidate

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