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Rex-Goliath posted:you're an intern no one expects poo poo from you not to put pressure on the poor kid but if he/she blows them away they might make an FTE offer. we've done that to both of the interns we've had since I've been at my company because we build a list of what we think a summer's worth of work is before before they get here and then they blow through it in a week and we go "uh, poo poo. well no one has touched this terrible shitshow for a year, wanna try?"
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oh yeah absolutely i'm just saying that no one should beat themselves up over an internship or ever feel like they're stupid for not understanding what's going on. just chill out and take the work they give you one step at a time. they're not expecting you to poo poo gold bricks for them like they would someone who's at a senior level
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Sep 13, 2017 02:14
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i had a hilarious internship where i got hired as a ux researcher, then the project was canceled and my planned manager left the company a couple months before i arrived (but after the offer letter.) the new manager was a ux designer, kept trying to give me design tasks... then when he figured out i wasn't a designer tried to put me to work as a software engineer. I came from a pentesting background and knew basic webdev stuff but again, not really in line with my job description. They basically ran me ragged on the idea if I "did well" I'd be hired, and then found out deep into the internship there were no hiring slots for UX researchers that year - only software engineers. He also gave me a lukewarm end of internship review which basically consisted of the fact that while I did an interesting UX research project, the things outside my title I never claimed to have experience in took longer to do and weren't at the quality he liked 
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Sep 13, 2017 04:46
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anyone here work at any gamedev studios looking for a designer?
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Sep 13, 2017 05:50
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Siljmonster posted:anyone here work at any gamedev studios looking for a designer? I'd check around https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3415662
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Sep 13, 2017 06:18
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MononcQc posted:From experience, not having a degree hurts when trying to get a job and go through recruiters or HR who take a degree as This happened to a friend of mine. Had ten years of industry but couldn't get a job at any big name company because a degree was a hard requirement in like 95% of jobs, so he went to university and landed a sick rear end position straight out.
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Sep 13, 2017 07:59
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Rofl. Companies do give a poo poo what interns do, it's literally an extended interview.
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Sep 13, 2017 08:02
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qhat posted:Rofl. Companies do give a poo poo what interns do, it's literally an extended interview. I routinely try to dissuade people from giving interns mission-critical functionality because no intern needs that much pressure
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Sep 13, 2017 09:07
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qhat posted:This happened to a friend of mine. Had ten years of industry but couldn't get a job at any big name company because a degree was a hard requirement in like 95% of jobs, so he went to university and landed a sick rear end position straight out. It's why I hosed off out of California. It's like lawyers in Memphis.
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Sep 13, 2017 09:10
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Elysiume posted:can confirm More like you avoid doing that because they'll almost certainly gently caress it up.
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Sep 13, 2017 15:25
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interns are great because they're always so enthusiastic about everything  you go little guy, enjoy those few years before you get cynical and jaded
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Sep 13, 2017 15:27
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:how bad is it to have no degree? rn i'm putting $university $timespan $course on my resume despite dropping out, i wonder how hosed i'll be when it comes to applying for another job after 3+ years of paid computer touching Britain is in the EU (for now) and my current employer wanted a copy of my degree certificate. From 20 years ago (and, yes, after 20 years of industry experience). In Modern History.
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Sep 13, 2017 16:51
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interns are great because the ceo thinks they're free labor but actually they're a 3 month training burden that leaves for a real job as soon as they know anything! probably a different story at bigcorps but that's how it went at my lovely startup, and it was a huge waste of time
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Sep 13, 2017 16:57
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i wish programmers were paid better in the uk (and trans people weren't totally hosed by the nhs) because I would move to London or Edinburgh like instantly if I could make comparable figgies there, accounting for a slightly lower income due to Healthcare being free.
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Sep 13, 2017 19:22
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yeah it's weird for how expensive the uk is you'd think the pay would be better
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Sep 13, 2017 19:24
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Java, C, and C++ are my strongest languages. How likely is it that an employer would say that's good enough for an entry-level C# gig?
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Sep 13, 2017 19:47
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ThePeavstenator posted:Java, C, and C++ are my strongest languages. How likely is it that an employer would say that's good enough for an entry-level C# gig? You'll probably do fine, just look up the basic data structures in C#s standard library because some of them behave a bit differently from Java, especially anything hash related. If you need something to prove that you can write C#, it's insanely easy to knock out an app in winforms in a day. I wrote an internal utility that way that epics tech comm team still uses to this day. Just think of some thing you've done in one of your main languages, knock it out in c# and push it to your github. Viola, or you can confidently put c# on your resume. Just don't imply you know any of the various asp.net platforms unless you actually study up first because there's plenty of weird pitfalls and differences between them that a jerk interviewer would try to trip you up with.
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Sep 13, 2017 19:52
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cis autodrag posted:i wish programmers were paid better in the uk (and trans people weren't totally hosed by the nhs) because I would move to London or Edinburgh like instantly if I could make comparable figgies there, accounting for a slightly lower income due to Healthcare being free. your puppies would have to go to dog jail unless you meet fairly strict requirements
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Sep 13, 2017 19:58
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ultravoices posted:your puppies would have to go to dog jail unless you meet fairly strict requirements Man, brexit really was all about hating immigrants huh
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Sep 13, 2017 20:07
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cis autodrag posted:i wish programmers were paid better in the uk (and trans people weren't totally hosed by the nhs) because I would move to London or Edinburgh like instantly if I could make comparable figgies there, accounting for a slightly lower income due to Healthcare being free. uk figgie situation is really poo poo unfortunately but a lot of that is down to london-centrism. the labour market is also heavily finance-dominated. it's a living but it's pretty unfulfilling work.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:18
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ThePeavstenator posted:Java, C, and C++ are my strongest languages. How likely is it that an employer would say that's good enough for an entry-level C# gig? c# and java are almost the same thing. you're gonna have a harder time figuring out which tools and frameworks you like.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:32
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qhat posted:More like you avoid doing that because they'll almost certainly gently caress it up.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:35
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cis autodrag posted:(and trans people weren't totally hosed by the nhs)
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Sep 13, 2017 20:37
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jre posted:Can't wait to hear this it's like crazy off topic so you can pm me if you're actually interested, but tl;dr is that nhs goes way too far with gatekeeping and the criteria that actually allow you to receive treatment are pretty outdated causing a lot of people who don't fit a particular stereotype to be denied treatment. we've heard multiple horror stories from uk goons over in the trans thread.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:44
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cis autodrag posted:i wish programmers were paid better in the uk (and trans people weren't totally hosed by the nhs) because I would move to London or Edinburgh like instantly if I could make comparable figgies there, accounting for a slightly lower income due to Healthcare being free. oh yeah I can relate like me I wanted to move to the coast so badly, it's all I ever wanted in a place to call home. I'd move if only I could get comparable $$$ for programming BUT programming jobs suck out there had to face the reality that apparently I loved programming more than I loved the idea of living in my dream place between you and me I haven't been the same since
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ThePeavstenator posted:Java, C, and C++ are my strongest languages. How likely is it that an employer would say that's good enough for an entry-level C# gig?
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cis autodrag posted:it's like crazy off topic so you can pm me if you're actually interested, but tl;dr is that nhs goes way too far with gatekeeping and the criteria that actually allow you to receive treatment are pretty outdated causing a lot of people who don't fit a particular stereotype to be denied treatment. we've heard multiple horror stories from uk goons over in the trans thread. As opposed to the completely free universally available treatment in the states ?
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jre posted:As opposed to the completely free universally available treatment in the states ? what a completely idiotic response to what i just said. me: "think x has problems" you: "thing y has completely different problems" if you're interested in an actual discussion on the matter please go to TGRS and ask in the trans thread, otherwise gently caress off back to the disingenuous cave.
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cis autodrag posted:what a completely idiotic response to what i just said. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 13, 2017 21:04
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More interviewing and job hunting horror stories, less being lovely about LGBT issues, guys.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:09
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John Big Booty posted:How much experience do you have with react dot js? It's at this point that I insert the drill into my eyesocket
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Sep 13, 2017 21:28
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ThePeavstenator posted:It's at this point that I insert the drill into my eyesocket there's worse things than react my posts
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Sep 13, 2017 21:30
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jre posted:there's worse things than react my posts
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Sep 13, 2017 22:16
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a friend from old-job texted me today saying that he was leaving and finally joining the six figgies club and i did a little wootles for him. then he told me it's 1-off webdev and wordpress and i felt sad i didn't tell him about the new position i've been offered leading an engineering team 'cause i didn't want to make him feel bad
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sorry, we will only consider candidates whose entire technical exposure reflects our company's priorities, not the priorities of the companies they previously or currently worked for.
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Sep 14, 2017 01:09
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*prefers to develop in Spring, but has no on-job Spring experience to show, so takes a job developing in Bespoke Frankenframework to pay the bills* years later ... *prefers to develop in Spring, ...*
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Sep 14, 2017 01:15
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cis autodrag posted:i wish programmers were paid better in the uk (and trans people weren't totally hosed by the nhs) because I would move to London or Edinburgh like instantly if I could make comparable figgies there, accounting for a slightly lower income due to Healthcare being free. now that auckland property market is crashing nz is starting to look somewhat less crazy would prefer wellington tho ultravoices posted:your puppies would have to go to dog jail unless you meet fairly strict requirements in nz its much easier to get a permanent residency than it is to get a dog imported
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Sep 14, 2017 01:31
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Mister Sinewave posted:oh yeah I can relate buy land there and put up a vacation home or whatever
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Sep 14, 2017 01:33
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ThePeavstenator posted:Java, C, and C++ are my strongest languages. How likely is it that an employer would say that's good enough for an entry-level C# gig? c# is a more proprietary clone of java so you're fine
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Gazpacho posted:*prefers to develop in Spring, but has no on-job Spring experience to show, so takes a job developing in Bespoke Frankenframework to pay the bills* So many Frankenframeworks over the years, though. So many.
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