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Sapozhnik posted:the lack of async/await in java is really bad, god drat. i hope this gets added to java 10 and java 10 comes out some time this decade. continuous delivery bithc
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cinci zoo sniper posted:maybe he was working a year on adaptive theme for windows random colour thing i miss visual studio so bad now that im in java town
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Sep 13, 2017 19:24
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cis autodrag posted:i miss visual studio so bad now that im in java town that's the other visual studio, but it's cool for r too
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Sep 13, 2017 20:08
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Sapozhnik posted:the lack of async/await in java is really bad, god drat. i hope this gets added to java 10 and java 10 comes out some time this decade. Have you looked into Vert.x?
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Sep 13, 2017 21:27
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moostaffa posted:Have you looked into Vert.x? Vert.x just makes the problem worse: if you do anything blocking it blocks (one of) your request handler thread(s), just like node.js, except you don't have the facilities that js does for doing async poo poo (like async/await) at least you can hand your poo poo off to a threadpool or whatever, but that only helps so much vert.x is literally node.js but java
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Sep 13, 2017 21:39
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https://twitter.com/EylerWerve/status/907701103281807362
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moostaffa posted:Have you looked into Vert.x? no, but i mean it's a library (and one with a very questionable design at that; a magic pixie dust distributed event bus, seriously? that's the sort of thing whose design and operational management you're going to want to be very explicit about, like say by not building a product that is a gigantic pub-sub hairball in the first place). there's only so much you can do with a library. you need some sort of way to do co-operative multitasking in order for async io to not be very painful. so you'll need coroutines, or closures at the absolute minimum, and java doesn't have either. alright, kinda sorta there's a quasi-closure facility: you can define a lambda that references variables in an enclosing scope, but there's a sleight of hand in that you can't actually modify them from within the lambda. so creating a "closure" doesn't tear off the stack frame and keep it alive on the heap, it's just syntactic sugar for bundling extra parameters into the lambda implicitly. checked exceptions also cause problems for @FunctionalInterface type things too. when i said that netty programming was like assembly language programming for io, what i meant was that you're effectively forced to manually define and manage the lifecycle of a bunch of parallel call stacks, just like you manage the main call stack when writing assembly code. a language with a coroutine facility would let you naturally create alternative stacks and switch between them at will.
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Sep 13, 2017 23:05
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Zemyla posted:What was it supposed to be about? it was devseccon could have been about applying devops principals to infosec work a la any of jason chan's talks but instead it was a big ad for cyberark and veracode and it loving sucked
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Sep 13, 2017 23:34
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cis autodrag posted:i miss visual studio so bad now that im in java town are you stuck with eclipse* like i am or are you at least able to pick your poison on that front? *loaded down with plugins absolutely essential to getting the product to build
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Sep 13, 2017 23:42
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awk: fatal: grow_iop_buffer: iop->buf: can't allocate 17179869186 bytes of memory (Cannot allocate memory)
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Sep 13, 2017 23:49
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carry on then posted:are you stuck with eclipse* like i am or are you at least able to pick your poison on that front? I'm not stuck with it, but i am using it because i don't really feel like paying for intellij and im already nested.
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Sep 14, 2017 00:35
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Sapozhnik posted:the lack of async/await in java is really bad, god drat. i hope this gets added to java 10 and java 10 comes out some time this decade. wtf is async/await ? What problem does it solve?
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Sep 14, 2017 01:05
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it's basically syntactic sugar for chaining callbacks e: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/hh456401.aspx
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Sep 14, 2017 01:53
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lisp eye for the algol guy
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Sep 14, 2017 02:04
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Janitor Prime posted:wtf is async/await ? What problem does it solve? It lets us asynchronously continue reading the thread while we await you making a good post!!!
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Sep 14, 2017 02:18
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JewKiller 3000 posted:awk: fatal: grow_iop_buffer: iop->buf: can't allocate 17179869186 bytes of memory (Cannot allocate memory) gave the vm 2x the memory and now it doesn't error out, but it also runs for 2+ hours without finishing  guess i have to write a real program now
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Sep 14, 2017 02:41
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JewKiller 3000 posted:gave the vm 2x the memory and now it doesn't error out, but it also runs for 2+ hours without finishing
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Sep 14, 2017 02:52
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CPColin posted:It lets us asynchronously continue reading the thread while we await you making a good post!!! i laughed
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Sep 14, 2017 04:30
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https://twitter.com/LuigiThirty/status/907645555798618113
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Sep 14, 2017 04:59
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"This rules out almost all programs."
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Sep 14, 2017 06:07
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Off-topic, congrats on coming out! Unless I'm interpreting something wrong (which I could be).
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Sep 14, 2017 07:51
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our loving json is so bad i installed python today to parse it
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Sep 14, 2017 14:04
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workaround: don't use jump instructions. this means virtually all code will not run correctly from external memory someone looked at this poo poo and said "who cares, ship it." 
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Sep 14, 2017 14:24
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cinci zoo sniper posted:our loving json is so bad i installed python today to parse it as opposed to what, eyeballing it? also jq is kinda handy
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Sep 14, 2017 17:36
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pokeyman posted:also jq is kinda handy huehueheu more like jelq is a kinda handy
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Sep 14, 2017 17:43
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pokeyman posted:as opposed to what, eyeballing it? as opposed to parsing tens of thousands of up to 50 mb large ndjson records, where small details of structure can vary between single digit number of records, in r the parser i mentioned earlier did work, but of course the end user instantly barked "but you gave me what i requested, not this"
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Sep 14, 2017 17:49
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lancemantis posted:seriously like most conferences that arent part of something academic or organizational are all just sales events Conferences are actually a way to get your company to pay for your vacation
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Sep 14, 2017 17:49
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LinYutang posted:Conferences are actually a way to get your company to pay for your vacation this guy knows what's up
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Sep 14, 2017 18:10
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Sapozhnik posted:the lack of async/await in java is really bad, god drat. i hope this gets added to java 10 and java 10 comes out some time this decade. Look at the netty extensions for reactor: https://github.com/reactor/reactor-netty reactor is p. good, too
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Sep 14, 2017 18:25
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cis autodrag posted:I'm not stuck with it, but i am using it because i don't really feel like paying for intellij and im already nested. As a developer who used to use eclipse cdt every day, let me tell ya, clion and intellij is cool and good and worth every penny.
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Sep 14, 2017 18:39
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i pronounce clion klion
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http://blog.atom.io/2017/09/12/announcing-atom-ide.html 
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Sep 14, 2017 18:42
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oh hey, a slower java ide than eclipse
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Sep 14, 2017 18:45
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Zemyla posted:Off-topic, congrats on coming out! Unless I'm interpreting something wrong (which I could be). Are delay slots gay or am I missing something?
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Sep 14, 2017 18:59
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:Look at the netty extensions for reactor: https://github.com/reactor/reactor-netty a+ documentation there
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Sep 14, 2017 19:05
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Has anyone tried that jetblains .NET ide, yet?
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Sep 14, 2017 20:41
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akadajet posted:Are delay slots gay or am I missing something? I think he saw the word "lady" in the Twitter handle and made an assumption, which is p lol
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Sep 14, 2017 21:12
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Sweevo posted:workaround: don't use jump instructions. this means virtually all code will not run correctly from external memory Atari “it’s 1994 and we literally have no money” Corporation the GPU and DSP each have internal 32-bit SRAM that you can copy programs to. that’s not affected by this. the external memory bus is 16-bit and a lot slower anyway. a few years ago someone figured out that you can reliably do jumps in external memory as long as the alignment for everything is just right but the speed penalty makes it no good [quote="“cis autodrag”" post="“476402291”"] I think he saw the word “lady” in the Twitter handle and made an assumption, which is p lol [/quote] nope I’m on my way to being a girl 🌈
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Sep 14, 2017 21:38
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Luigi Thirty posted:
welcome to the coven then! and you're already a girl, you're just getting your body with the program. as always im available via pms if you ever want to talk about anything.
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Luigi Thirty posted:nope I’m on my way to being a girl 🌈 
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