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Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
Hey everyone, I made a thread to contain the hillary and bernie chat, as it is easting all three us politics threads alive. Please come and tell us about why you don't like Hillary and defend bernie from centrists!

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Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

I'm calling for a boycott of the loam thread

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Hey everyone, I made a thread to contain the hillary and bernie chat, as it is easting all three us politics threads alive. Please come and tell us about why you don't like Hillary and defend bernie from centrists!

gently caress this.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
loam is neoliberal's response to silt.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Hey everyone, I made a thread to contain the hillary and bernie chat, as it is easting all three us politics threads alive. Please come and tell us about why you don't like Hillary and defend bernie from centrists!

that is a very bad thread op

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
What, you guys like it when people poo poo up all the threads with the same arguments over and over again? I am trying to quarantine that poo poo.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Matt Zerella posted:

that is a very bad thread op

Yeah, I suck at Ops, but the intent is what matters right. I'll fill it full of anti-hillary poo poo if you want to help out. Tell me why she is awful and It'll be added to the OP. Plus and Pro Bernie poo poo you want.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

What, you guys like it when people poo poo up all the threads with the same arguments over and over again? I am trying to quarantine that poo poo.


Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Yeah, I suck at Ops, but the intent is what matters right.

This thread exists and its the Suck Zone.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Matt Zerella posted:

This thread exists and its the Suck Zone.

I disagree, I've come around to this thread ot being that lovely after some basic curation of posters. The other threads are basically unreadable.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY


Edit: the suck zone is good don't poo poo up cspam you nerds

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



Calibanibal posted:

I'm calling for a boycott of the loam thread

I'm calling for boycott, divestment, and sanctions on the loam thread

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I've already incorporated the loam thread into my axis of evil.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



In two pages, we'll get What Happened? By Heck Yes Loam

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Loam thread is dirt. It's for the worms

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

steinrokkan posted:

I've already incorporated the loam thread into my axis of evil.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

nessin posted:

This is such a poo poo excuse. What was the worst the Republican's could respond with? You probably can't even find a total of five worse alternatives to Gorsuch for the Supreme Court. For the full duration of 2017, the time under which we could have had whoever Obama wanted to appoint, we get as close to the worst situation we could have all because Obama didn't want to push the issue a year out and snub the Republicans. And in a best case scenario the Republicans would have been so fractured under the Trump Presidency they wouldn't have been able to vote anyone else in and let Garland/whomever stay by default, which is basically the situation we're heading towards come Jan 2018 had Obama actually done it.

It wasn't an excuse? It's my understanding of the process that recess appointments are not permanent, and the original asker is, if I recall correctly, Canadian. You can argue that Obama could or should have tried some kind of legal or political maneuvering as you described to circumvent this, but in terms of the way the process is meant to work, recess appointments are not permanent as far as I know.

Also if you're going to remake the thread a "serious" title and OP might set a different tone of discussion, but if you don't want that then I don't see the point in doing a new thread.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

Less posting about posting and more posting about Dem wastes please.

https://twitter.com/tinyrevolution/status/908020973311537152

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.
The only break that Obama could have made a recess appointment in is the one Scalia died during and the net effect of it would be... Trump gets to appoint a judge on the DC circuit.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
I really would like you guys to contribute your opinions to the Hillary thread. I think it would be very useful to have the positions of different sides laid out in an easy to read OP. I am not a leftist so I don't want to assume I am representing your views appropriately.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



shrike82 posted:

Less posting about posting and more posting about Dem wastes please.

https://twitter.com/tinyrevolution/status/908020973311537152

did this thread run into the Chapo thread by mistake?

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


steinrokkan posted:

There needs to be a thread that is not quite the suck zone, not quite the trump thread. This one fulfills a niche that is important, as evidenced by the traffic it draws. If anything, it may need a refresh with a new OP and new rules against the most obvious trolling efforts.

any suggestions?

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

DNC topics of the moment are Bernie rallying establishment Dems to support a policy that was dismissed as impossible less than a year ago by Hillary, at the same time that Hillary is promoting a book largely blaming Bernie's championing of impossible policies for her loss. It's not possible to partition talking about the ideological divide between them from current Dem events. This thread was already a containment zone; trying to create yet another for Hillary criticism is just a sign that some posters don't want to acknowledge that criticism of the political approach she represents is pertinent to current policy and strategy.

(It's because that approach is so undeniably embarrassing and unconstructive at the moment.)

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


i'll sleep on refreshing the thread. any suggestions on a new op and rules are welcome. i assume jc will still be banned from the new one, but I guess i should pm r. guyovich wrt that

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

steinrokkan posted:

There needs to be a thread that is not quite the suck zone, not quite the trump thread. This one fulfills a niche that is important, as evidenced by the traffic it draws. If anything, it may need a refresh with a new OP and new rules against the most obvious trolling efforts.
I oppose creating a new thread because then we've got to work to get JeffersonClay banned from it again :colbert:

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

I disagree, I've come around to this thread ot being that lovely after some basic curation of posters. The other threads are basically unreadable.

This. This is actually the good thread, all the others are basically unreadable garbage with people that shout down any discussion of actual issues with the Democrats.

A refresh is fine though, but this is a thread that needs to exist.

Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Sep 14, 2017

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Condiv posted:

i'll sleep on refreshing the thread. any suggestions on a new op and rules are welcome. i assume jc will still be banned from the new one, but I guess i should pm r. guyovich wrt that

post Thomas Frank glamour shots tia

In all seriousness though, a reading list like USPOL had would probably be a good idea.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

MizPiz posted:

He's basically running the Democrats, so...

So is Bernie now a waste or a Democrats are now not a waste?

Or did is the thread about to self destruct from the contradiction?

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

yronic heroism posted:

So is Bernie now a waste or a Democrats are now not a waste?

Or did is the thread about to self destruct from the contradiction?

God to be this stupid and yet still draw breath. A thesis on your brain's functions could help get a student through grad school.

forbidden dialectics
Jul 26, 2005





yronic heroism posted:

So is Bernie now a waste or a Democrats are now not a waste?

Or did is the thread about to self destruct from the contradiction?

Bernie should just start a new party and take over once the Democrats "Whig" themselves out of existence. Which'll happen, sometime around 2020 I'd say.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

BadOptics posted:

God to be this stupid and yet still draw breath. A thesis on your brain's functions could help get a student through grad school.

sick bern bro

Do i need to spell it out? Democrats are a waste and Bernie is running them?

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

yronic heroism posted:

sick bern bro

Do i need to spell it out? Democrats are a waste and Bernie is running them?

Well I guess if you lack an understanding of the concept known as "context" and the reasons why people in this thread say "democrats are a waste", then what ever the gently caress you posted might make sense.

Edit: I'll even spell it out for you; if the Democrats had actually put their money where their mouth is and helped workers, the poor, the ability to unionize, decreasing foreign military engagements, etc, then this thread would almost certainly not exist. Bernie, while not exactly Lenin reborn, is currently leading the democrats to those ideals and actually fighting for them thereby putting them back on the right track. Before 2016, socialist policies were just crazy things those other people in every other developed country had. Now a few names who we'll almost certainly be seeing in 2020 are, crazy as it is, advocating for those same crazy things to happen here.

Edit2: This for the tl;dr version. VVVVVVVVVV

BadOptics fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Sep 14, 2017

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

yronic heroism posted:

sick bern bro

Do i need to spell it out? Democrats are a waste and Bernie is running them?

The thread title isn't asserting that "a waste" is an inherent property of the Democratic party.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

It's pretty much predicting doom and gloom for the party, nonsense posts about losing ground in the House next year, etc. If anything, events are showing the Democratic party as a whole is pretty responsive to its base. Not to be confused with loving naysayers who only moan rather than participate in any way other than maybe voting for Bernie (if they registered).

RedSpider
May 12, 2017

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

I really would like you guys to contribute your opinions to the Hillary thread. I think it would be very useful to have the positions of different sides laid out in an easy to read OP. I am not a leftist so I don't want to assume I am representing your views appropriately.

Your thread is loving stupid because it dismisses necessities of a functional society in the 21st century such as single-payer and free college tuition as 'ideological purity.'

This thread has always worked for Democrat infighting—we don't need another one?

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

BadOptics posted:

Well I guess if you lack an understanding of the concept known as "context" and the reasons why people in this thread say "democrats are a waste", then what ever the gently caress you posted might make sense.

Edit: I'll even spell it out for you; if the Democrats had actually put their money where their mouth is and helped workers, the poor, the ability to unionize, decreasing foreign military engagements, etc, then this thread would almost certainly not exist. Bernie, while not exactly Lenin reborn, is currently leading the democrats to those ideals and actually fighting for them thereby putting them back on the right track. Before 2016, socialist policies were just crazy things those other people in every other developed country had. Now a few names who we'll almost certainly be seeing in 2020 are, crazy as it is, advocating for those same crazy things to happen here.

Edit2: This for the tl;dr version. VVVVVVVVVV

I predicted Dems would start hopping on MFA fast like two months ago. Guess what happened. No one rushed to agree with this view because the mindset of this thread is basically accelerationist.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

yronic heroism posted:

It's pretty much predicting doom and gloom for the party, nonsense posts about losing ground in the House next year, etc. If anything, events are showing the Democratic party as a whole is pretty responsive to its base. Not to be confused with loving naysayers who only moan rather than participate in any way other than maybe voting for Bernie (if they registered).

2/10 JeffersonClay's gimmick was much more entertaining

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Bernie owns.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

VitalSigns posted:

2/10 JeffersonClay's gimmick was much more entertaining

1/10 doesn't have NFS's hilarious avatar or non sequitur reference to slaves

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/908143376838656000

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Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
Love watching IRL meltdowns like this. I wonder how many of the people close to her are begging her not to do this?

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