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Skwirl posted:They cancelled Ms. Marvel? No, I meant "ending" as in "ending of this storyline." I suppose that was unclear. Let's just say a plothread was left intentionally dangling and looming.
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So Secret Empire Omega was mostly blather to my ears but I liked the part where Emma Frost and Beast touted New Tian as an idyllic mutant homeland that mutants have always dreamed of. "A glimpse of what we could have. What we could be. For generations of mutants, you've given them the map to someplace better," says Hank to Emma. Just as a reminder, this was a place where mutants were assaulting humans and Inhumans in the streets and incarcerating them in concentration camps. Did I say I liked this? Sorry, let me rephrase...
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Sep 14, 2017 00:20
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I thought Amazing was good this week. I... liked a Dan Slott comic. Should I see a specialist?
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Sep 14, 2017 00:23
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BrianWilly posted:So Secret Empire Omega was mostly blather to my ears but I liked the part where Emma Frost and Beast touted New Tian as an idyllic mutant homeland that mutants have always dreamed of. "A glimpse of what we could have. What we could be. For generations of mutants, you've given them the map to someplace better," says Hank to Emma. I think a lot of this might be people just inconsistent in their understanding of what was going on. I wouldn't be surprised if the writer (unless it was Nick Spencer) didn't know about the camps. I mean, like, I don't think the editors were doing a good job making sure everyone was consistent on what was going on in the event. I know some of the readers weren't. I was chatting with some guy about it and he didn't believe that Inhumans were being put in camps and admitting that this changed his view on the series in a bad way when I proved it.
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Sep 14, 2017 00:26
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Oh, the writer is 100% Nick Spencer. Secret Empire: Omega is basically an epilogue to the main event, which goes through what's going on in the world after issue 10.
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Sep 14, 2017 00:30
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BrianWilly posted:So Secret Empire Omega was mostly blather to my ears but I liked the part where Emma Frost and Beast touted New Tian as an idyllic mutant homeland that mutants have always dreamed of. "A glimpse of what we could have. What we could be. For generations of mutants, you've given them the map to someplace better," says Hank to Emma. 50-50 odds this is just another in-character Hank McCoy gently caress up.
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Sep 14, 2017 00:31
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BrianWilly posted:Oh, the writer is 100% Nick Spencer. Secret Empire: Omega is basically an epilogue to the main event, which goes through what's going on in the world after issue 10. Oh, then Nick Spencer is a putz, it was a scene meant to demonstrate the privilege Hank experienced in a government made to serve only him as a commentary on white (or, potentially, a commentary on "reverse racism"  ), or both. Like, it's either Nick being a putz, Hank not realizing he's become what he hated, or both.
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Sep 14, 2017 00:34
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Being an X-Men fan since House of M has been one long kick in the balls.
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Sep 14, 2017 01:03
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TenCentFang posted:Being an X-Men fan since House of M has been one long kick in the balls. There is a reason I mostly just read the young X-Men (All-New X-Men, X-Men Blue) now. There is something more innocent and fun about them.
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Sep 14, 2017 01:20
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Leaks for Marvel solicits in December http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?101121-December-2017-solicitations
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MS. MARVEL #25 Teenage Wasteland Part 1 Jersey City still has a need for a super hero, but why has KAMALA KHAN, a.k.a MS. MARVEL, vanished? In the wake of her disappearance, the city's newest hero RED DAGGER and even ordinary citizens attempt to carry on her Legacy of heroism. MS. MARVEL is nowhere...but also everywhere at once! And when an old enemy re-emerges, will anyone be powerful enough to truly carry the MS. MARVEL legacy but Kamala? PLUS: Includes 3 bonus MARVEL PRIMER PAGES! Rated T+ I read this and I can think is "Kamala went back to her extended family for the weekend and Red Dagger came over, possibly an exchange situation." You know, since Red Dagger is a friend of Kamala's extended family overseas. Like, it's mystery only if you didn't read the issue right after Civil War II.
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Sep 14, 2017 01:37
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Two pages into the new Runaways and Chase has already hosed up massively. It's like it never went away. Anyway the art is great but it's impossible to divine from the book more than that because it's 90% Nico casting spells in increasingly desperate and reaching ways it's extremely A Comic Written By Someone Who Has Never Written A Comic Before Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 02:01
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Renumbering is stupid.
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Zoro posted:There is a reason I mostly just read the young X-Men (All-New X-Men, X-Men Blue) now. There is something more innocent and fun about them. Don't they still kill teen X-men by the bucketload?
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Sep 14, 2017 03:58
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I thought it was a funny coincidence that i listen to an interview with Sana Amanat this morning where she talked about what makes superheroes special is that they made the choice to be good. And then I read this week's Gwenpool which was all about that very topic.
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Roth posted:Leaks for Marvel solicits in December X-Men: Blue: Yeah, saw that Bloodstorm face turn coming a mile away.
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Sep 14, 2017 05:27
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Zoro posted:Oh, then Nick Spencer is a putz, it was a scene meant to demonstrate the privilege Hank experienced in a government made to serve only him as a commentary on white (or, potentially, a commentary on "reverse racism" I'd put money on the fact that Nick Spencer is an idiot, but it's such an obvious bet that no one would take it. Blockhouse posted:it's extremely A Comic Written By Someone Who Has Never Written A Comic Before Yeah but judging by her name Rainbow Rowell is actually a superhero
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Sep 14, 2017 05:32
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The Omega was stupid and doesn't actually answer any questions. Technically Hydra Cap is the real Cap. He has the original body. Good Cap's body was created by Kobik. Leaving them as individuals is silly and of course we'll have to deal with this in the future so the taint of this poo poo book won't entirely go away.
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Sep 14, 2017 05:48
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Didn't the Red Skull also have Cap's body for a while? So even that's not that original?
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Sep 14, 2017 07:23
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Red Skull had a cloned body. I'm kind of interested to see what comes of the new Punisher and Hawkeye/Winter Soldier books.
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Sep 14, 2017 07:31
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No one cares about original bodies. Professor Xavier is on his fourth body and seventh set of legs. Betsy has been in the wrong body for thirty years. That's longer than some BSS posters have been alive.
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Sep 14, 2017 07:47
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I'm confused, and granted I either haven't read some of the books in question or read them years ago, but what makes New Tian any more special than Utopia, or even, I suppose, Magneto's Genosha? Neither of those were tied up with Hydra either so like, and they lasted longer than eight issues or whatever too, so shouldn't Hank be getting misty about one of those two instead of his current garbage country?
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Sep 14, 2017 07:59
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Rhyno posted:The Omega was stupid and doesn't actually answer any questions. How much of Secret Empire do we think was Nick Spencer really wanting to leave his own version of The Maker in the world via Hydra Cap? Cuz I don't see NazSteve having legs quite the same way for reuse, but someone clearly thought he was great new villain of 2017 to keep him around.
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Sep 14, 2017 08:03
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Blockhouse posted:Two pages into the new Runaways and Chase has already hosed up massively. It's like it never went away. Is she still using the Staff of One and not learning how to magic like a Strange or Magik? She should really try to learn how to magic.
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Sep 14, 2017 08:18
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Archyduke posted:I'm confused, and granted I either haven't read some of the books in question or read them years ago, but what makes New Tian any more special than Utopia, or even, I suppose, Magneto's Genosha? Neither of those were tied up with Hydra either so like, and they lasted longer than eight issues or whatever too, so shouldn't Hank be getting misty about one of those two instead of his current garbage country?
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Sep 14, 2017 08:19
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Nessus posted:Was Hank in charge of those countries? I wasn't under the impression that he was in charge of New Tian either. I've only read bits and pieces of recent X-stuff but the sense I got was that Emma Frost was the real leader and some new version of Xorn was the figurehead. Although to be fair I totally forgot that Hank split off from Utopia under pretty acrimonious circumstances.
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Sep 14, 2017 08:26
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So... how about that Gwenpool, eh?
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Sep 14, 2017 11:30
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It was really good. Has a lot to say about consumption of fiction and the value of escapism/fictional characters. Gwenpool has really come massive strides from where it started, and it's one of my favourite comics right now.
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Archyduke posted:I'm confused, and granted I either haven't read some of the books in question or read them years ago, but what makes New Tian any more special than Utopia, or even, I suppose, Magneto's Genosha? Neither of those were tied up with Hydra either so like, and they lasted longer than eight issues or whatever too, so shouldn't Hank be getting misty about one of those two instead of his current garbage country? Utopia (apparently the capital of New Tian) was a lovely little island, Genosha was a lovely little island. New Tian is California (yes, in the undetermined time between 8 months after Secret Wars and the beginning of Secret Empire the mutants somehow took over California and transformed it into a mutant led authoritarian state).
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Sep 14, 2017 13:45
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Argue posted:So... how about that Gwenpool, eh? She's really grown up a whole lot over the past 2 years.
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Decius posted:Utopia (apparently the capital of New Tian) was a lovely little island, Genosha was a lovely little island. New Tian is California (yes, in the undetermined time between 8 months after Secret Wars and the beginning of Secret Empire the mutants somehow took over California and transformed it into a mutant led authoritarian state). So X-Men is now on it's ... third? Fourth? Iteration of "what if we gave the minorities their own little corner to be minorities in?" Does Asteroid M count? I'm counting it anyway.
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Decius posted:Utopia (apparently the capital of New Tian) was a lovely little island, Genosha was a lovely little island. New Tian is California (yes, in the undetermined time between 8 months after Secret Wars and the beginning of Secret Empire the mutants somehow took over California and transformed it into a mutant led authoritarian state). At least Genosha started out as more than a lovely little island; it was a really nice and lush and beautiful island back when it was an Apartheid state that made mutants literal slaves
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Sep 14, 2017 14:39
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wiegieman posted:I thought Amazing was good this week. I... liked a Dan Slott comic. Should I see a specialist? It was good, and so was his Superior Spider-Man and Silver Surfer. He makes good comics when they're not about Peter Parker.
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howe_sam posted:I thought it was a funny coincidence that i listen to an interview with Sana Amanat this morning where she talked about what makes superheroes special is that they made the choice to be good. And then I read this week's Gwenpool which was all about that very topic. Argue posted:So... how about that Gwenpool, eh? Android Blues posted:It was really good. Has a lot to say about consumption of fiction and the value of escapism/fictional characters. Gwenpool has really come massive strides from where it started, and it's one of my favourite comics right now. Gwenpool is basically a book too beautiful for this ugly world. Every issue I reach the last page with dread expecting it to be the series end because all my fav books end up that way, way sooner than later.
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Gwenpool is a super meta book but it's the rare super meta book that actually feels heartfelt and honest and I appreciate it for that.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:At least Genosha started out as more than a lovely little island; it was a really nice and lush and beautiful island back when it was an Apartheid state that made mutants literal slaves Yeah, but in between Xtinction Agenda and Magneto War it turned into basically Bosnia.
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Argue posted:So... how about that Gwenpool, eh? I always appreciate how meta it is, but i really got into this issue's discussion on what i have to assume were the original pitch meetings for the character and the choice they made to not have her as an anti hero/villain like the punisher who can more or less have as much longevity as staple heroes but as a hero that develops a sense of self that will make her a better character while undoubtedly sacrificing her lifespan as a published book It was real interesting imo
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Gurihiru are a really talented team, too. It's one of those books where the writing really does shine but the bloom goes off the rose a little when it's an art fill-in. See Adrian Alphona on Runaways or, uh, Adrian Alphona on Ms. Marvel, or Erica Henderson on Squirrel Girl. It's just a great book to look at, and I feel like in the last few issues in particular they've done some super fun and clever layout stuff that amplifies the meta stuff without, I don't know, stepping on Chris Hastings' toes I guess?
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Yeah their scenes "between the pages" have been cool af and i loved how future gwen devolved into rough sketches as she disappeared that was a great touch
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So, the only thing you need to know about Ben Reiley: Scarlet Spider this week is that it ends on a nearly literal deus ex machina. The lady who killed Kaine turns out to be actual, capital D Death, she then says Ben Reiley is unique because he's been getting more and more unhinged because souls aren't supposed to go back and forth from heaven/earth and his will explode and leave him a soulless monster if he dies again. She then tries to get him to choose between Kaine and the girl he wants to save, he says he'll pick himself and when she says no he punches her and tries to get her to force the issue, she then laughs and says this was fun and gives both kaine and the girl their lives back, and also apparently heals all the scarring off his and Kaine's faces to boot. This book feels like it was editorially mandated that it exist and certain things happen and I hate it.
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