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NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Knobb Manwich posted:

"... and improve the lives of the poor."

"Wait what?"

Nah, you bury that poo poo on page 7 of the addendum in tiny tiny writing because they never actually read that.

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MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

NPR Journalizard posted:

Im starting to hope that if you couch it in terms that torys loving love then they will be more onboard with it.

If you start with "I have a plan that will see the size of government massively reduced, healthcare costs cut, welfare spending decreased and it ends up being a net saving to government" then you could start to get torys on board.

"Yes, but how will it allow me to funnel public money into private enterprise that I will then coincidentally be on the board of post retirement?"

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/qian-liu-found-not-guilty-of-murdering-husband-han-lim-chin-20170913-gygxc7.html

I am utterly perplexed with this outcome... the actual gently caress? Been following this case and been talking to my gf about how her defence was very very weak given the "slash" while running argument was against a five centre metre deep stab to the back

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/qian-liu-cradled-her-husband-han-lim-chins-body-after-stabbing-court-hears-20170906-gybxcv.html

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Lid posted:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/qian-liu-found-not-guilty-of-murdering-husband-han-lim-chin-20170913-gygxc7.html

I am utterly perplexed with this outcome... the actual gently caress? Been following this case and been talking to my gf about how her defence was very very weak given the "slash" while running argument was against a five centre metre deep stab to the back

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/qian-liu-cradled-her-husband-han-lim-chins-body-after-stabbing-court-hears-20170906-gybxcv.html

quote:

Police officers told court Ms Liu said: "It's all right. We had an argument. I stabbed him. We argued and I was mad."

But Ms Liu denied their account.

How the hell would cops know what was said in that moment?

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
This UBI conversation on RN is inspiring and depressing, partly because it reinforces how my job is complete bullshit.
Society could have been so much better :(

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Lid posted:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/qian-liu-found-not-guilty-of-murdering-husband-han-lim-chin-20170913-gygxc7.html

I am utterly perplexed with this outcome... the actual gently caress? Been following this case and been talking to my gf about how her defence was very very weak given the "slash" while running argument was against a five centre metre deep stab to the back

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/qian-liu-cradled-her-husband-han-lim-chins-body-after-stabbing-court-hears-20170906-gybxcv.html

Not only does it sound like her knowledge of English isn't perfect, in which case she may have used the wrong word, but can you not see how in the heat of the moment of her husband cornering her with a knife her impression of what happened and the actual version of what happened might have been different?

My husband once fell snowboarding and told me he was sure he knew exactly what happened, and I happened to have the crash on video and showed it to him, and it was the complete opposite. And that was while snowboarding, not trying to escape someone trying to stab him.

The guy threatened her with a knife after she told him she was getting a divorce; assuming that's true (I don't know what evidence was presented about that) she should absolutely have been found not guilty.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
It could be different but it is also that its two witnesses one of which is dead.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Lid posted:

It could be different but it is also that its two witnesses one of which is dead.

Yes, that's why she has to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and not just "well no one knows since the other guy is dead so we'll say guilty."

Also neither one of us were privy to a lot of what was said in that courtroom, so there is really no way to say one way or another. But claiming that the outcome is wrong because someone might have mixed up what really happened in the heat of the moment of an incredibly stressful situation is definitely a stretch.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
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Yeah, since I was neither in the room nor in the courtroom I'm tempted to side with the people making the decision that there was enough reasonable doubt that she shouldn't be locked up in gaol.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
That is fair, i might have been thrown by how quickly it went.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Meanwhile, good.


quote:

Vaccine objectors will no longer be able to enrol children in childcare in NSW, 'no jab no play' law amended

Parents who refuse to vaccinate their children will no longer be able to enrol children to childcare, with the state government closing the "conscientious objector" loophole in NSW's 'no jab no play' rules.

On Wednesday night the NSW parliament passed a Bill to amend the Public Health Act to introduce stronger requirements for families enrolling children into early childhood education and care centres.
This would explain tge martin place rally a few days ago

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

also good

quote:

Tiahleigh Palmer's foster brother gets four years' jail for incest, perjury

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Good. gently caress that family of scum, his dad can rot.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
yeah christ what a hosed up situation

her poor mother :(

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Tasmantor
Aug 13, 2007
Horrid abomination
If you just fold your survey in half again but at right angles to the other folds then the yes and no boxes overlap and on mine a barcode is covering them as well. I don't think anyone is going to tamper with it but my wife thought it would was an obvious work around so we tested it.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Lid posted:

Meanwhile, good.

This would explain tge martin place rally a few days ago

Good, I wish Canada would take stronger action against idiots who don't vaccinate.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

gently caress off

Gentleman Baller
Oct 13, 2013

Lid posted:

Meanwhile, good.

Conscientious objector to... giving your children heathcare? Before it was closed was there some kind of test to that exemption or did you just have to say your religion was against alive children or some poo poo?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

"When people that aren't bigots disagree with bigots that is actually hate speech and agreeing with right wing fundies should be mandatory. Also why oh why doesn't everyone agree with me?"

*sobs into sleeve of sports jacket*

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
I don't really ever find myself disagreeing with the positions the CFMEU puts forward. If only there were a political party that represented the views of the labour movement.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Solemn Sloth posted:

I don't really ever find myself disagreeing with the positions the CFMEU puts forward. If only there were a political party that represented the views of the labour movement.

Yeah they even put out a message of solidarity with Venezuela and denounced US imperialism. They're really good.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



But I was told they're a criminal organisation! An evil one!

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004



from a bus stop in brisbane.

glasnost toyboy
May 29, 2009
Published in the Oz, what a shock.

Fauxbot
Jan 20, 2009

I need more wine.
The CFMEU talk a big game, they don't have that much walk though. Their bosses are still enmeshed in the Labor patronage machine, don't get sucked in too much simply because they say the right thing occasionally.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Gentleman Baller posted:

Conscientious objector to... giving your children heathcare? Before it was closed was there some kind of test to that exemption or did you just have to say your religion was against alive children or some poo poo?

Just had to register you objected to vaccines on your conscience, not even religious reasons. To be fair any religion against vaccines has the issue of its followers all dying.

AgentF
May 11, 2009
Found a corflute sign for the No campaign on a light pole. Firstly I thought you can't put up coreflutes outside of an election. Secondly there was no authorised statement so under the new laws that just came in I figure the sign is illegal. Complained to the council about it but by the end of the day it was still up.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Australian taxpayers should subsidise multinational media companies by extending a fund designed to support regional publishers to the New York Times, Buzzfeed and The Guardian, the Greens say.

The $60 million fund was part of a swag of concessions secured by senator Nick Xenophon late on Wednesday in exchange for his backing of the Turnbull government's media ownership reforms.

This... this is just plain weird... it itches me on like the idea of domestic governance.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



AgentF posted:

Found a corflute sign for the No campaign on a light pole. Firstly I thought you can't put up coreflutes outside of an election. Secondly there was no authorised statement so under the new laws that just came in I figure the sign is illegal. Complained to the council about it but by the end of the day it was still up.

That's what tearing it down yourself was designed for.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Anti-vaccination GP John Piesse's career appears to be over after the national medical board banned him from practising.

Dr Piesse looked buoyed by the presence of about 50 supporters outside the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency's Melbourne offices on Thursday as he entered at lunchtime to front a Medical Board of Australia panel.

...

The doctor has been the subject of an investigation after it emerged he was helping anti-vax parents sidestep "no jab, no play" laws which require children to be fully immunised for their age before they can be enrolled in childcare services or kindergarten.

Supporters cheered and clapped Dr Piesse when he arrived for the hearing, and launched into a chant of "Educate before you vaccinate" as he went inside. The placards the supporters held included the slogans "Piesse = Galileo", "Vaccines Kill" and "Parents make the choice not the government".

Several speakers addressed the group to restate their support for Dr Piesse, call for more donations for his legal campaign and criticise government vaccination laws.

Samantha Wisteria held a sign saying Australia's "medical tyranny [was] silencing our doctors" and told the gathering her son's health and development went backwards in the weeks after he had his measles, mumps and rubella shot as a baby.

She later said her son was later diagnosed with autism and at 14, now needs constant care and can only say one word: "No".

...

During the protest, several passers-by were critical of Dr Piesse's supporters. One man had a heated exchange with a supporter, while another man called out: "Vaccines don't kill, diseases do."

Another man yelled "bullshit" to the anti-vaxxers.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
doctor john piss

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Lid posted:

Samantha Wisteria held a sign saying Australia's "medical tyranny [was] silencing our doctors" and told the gathering her son's health and development went backwards in the weeks after he had his measles, mumps and rubella shot as a baby.

She later said her son was later diagnosed with autism and at 14, now needs constant care and can only say one word: "No".

There's a woman in all kinds of denial

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Les Affaires posted:



from a bus stop in brisbane.

yo their solution (pick a different word) doesn't address their problems (dads, mums, kids)

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Also http://25logicalreasonstovoteno.com/

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I'm sorry crazy anti vaccine lady. Your kid has autism because of your poo poo genes, not because of a jab.

Maybe stop having a poison womb or something. I don't know.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/andrewwogas/status/908178046724620288

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

AgentF posted:

Found a corflute sign for the No campaign on a light pole. Firstly I thought you can't put up coreflutes outside of an election. Secondly there was no authorised statement so under the new laws that just came in I figure the sign is illegal. Complained to the council about it but by the end of the day it was still up.

I'm not sure how exactly the corflute laws work, but I imagine that it's okay to have them up because they aren't electoral material in this case. Because this isn't an election being overseen by the AEC, there is technically no difference between a corflute on a light pole or a flyer advertising a public event. The same lack of rules that required the emergency anti-vilification legislation on Wednesday means that basically there's no rule saying you can't. The lack of an 'authorised by' line might fall under the same thing, might not, I'm not sure. I sure hope it doesn't, though, because otherwise there's an awfully big loophole of 'you can put up whatever heinous hate speech you want and if your name's not on it they can't do poo poo'.

The wind does blow both ways on this, though, so expect to see the 'Yes' campaign corflutes go up over time, and probably stand longer without vandalism.

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ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
Legalising gay marriage is unnecessary because gay couples have FULL RELATIONSHIP EQUALITY. Also, giving gay couples equal status to heterosexual couples will destroy society.


beautiful

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