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PoptartsNinja posted:Hm, what's the best way to show the scale of this monster I've created? Oh, I know! Is that a tiny park arcology? Parkology?
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How tall is the structure? What are we looking at in cubic volume?
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Sep 14, 2017 11:37
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PoptartsNinja posted:
Might want to check your sums there. If a hex is 30 metres by 30 metres that's only 81,900 m^2, nowhere near the 3,000,000m^2 of 3 square kilometres. On a positive note, I really liked that let's read, and it ended up enhancing my memories of that early 17th recon mission. I still remember that mission and that's pretty drat great for a thread on the internet. What are the 17th up to currently in this timeline? Last we saw them was something about limos, assassination and highlanders?
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PoptartsNinja posted:Hm, what's the best way to show the scale of this monster I've created? Oh, I know!
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Sep 14, 2017 13:21
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Is "30m" the long diagonal, the short diagonal, or the edge length of a hex? Edit: or is the area given as "30m^2" Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 13:25
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I looked up the largest building footprint here on Earth and the biggest is the flower auction building in Aalsmeer, Netherlands at just a bit over 0.5 square kilometers. So that's like six of those. Dang.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:27
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Is it for 80s of the future anime conventions? Or would that not be big enough? This is what happens when PAX runs until 3025+. paxplex.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:21
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Is "30m" the long diagonal, the short diagonal, or the edge length of a hex? E: actually the 30 meters figure might be a different number than I thought, if distances are center to center. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 15:30
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AJ_Impy posted:How tall is the structure? What are we looking at in cubic volume? Varies, but height 74 / 148 stories at its highest point. Erd posted:Might want to check your sums there. If a hex is 30 metres by 30 metres that's only 81,900 m^2, nowhere near the 3,000,000m^2 of 3 square kilometres. That's what happens when I pretend I can do math at 3:00AM.
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Yay, time for some High School Trigonometry!  According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagon The area of a hex is ( SQRT(3) / 2 ) * d^2, where d is the 'inner diameter' (that being the Battletech measure of 30 meters across, edge to edge). Area of a Hex = 779.42 m2 Total Area of 91 hexes = 779.42 * 91 = 70,927.48 m2 Total Volume of a Building 74 Height Levels tall with that foot print (assuming a height level is 6 m high). Total Volume of a Building = 70,927.48 * 74 * 6 = 31,491,801.37 m3 Assuming building has a 'gentle' slope (call it a 'fat cone', with 2/3 of the volume enclosed. Total Volume of a 'Fat Cone' Building = 31,491,801.37 * (2/3) = 20,994,534.25 m3 Total Volume of a 'Normal Cone' Building = 31,491,801.37 * (1/3) = 10,497,267.12 m3 As a size comparison, an American Football field is 110m x 48.76m = 5,363.6 m2 So, 91 hexes is 70,927.48 / 5,363.6 = 13.22 Football Fields. Finally, the AT&T Stadium (new home of the Dallas Cowboys) is 104 million cubic feet = 2,944,952.05 m3 So, Total Volume Building is 31,491,801.37 m3 / 2,944,952.05 m3 = 10.7 AT&T Stadiums. 'Fat Cone', 7.13 Stadiums; 'Normal Cone', 3.56 Stadiums. 
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Sep 14, 2017 18:57
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CourValant posted:The area of a hex is ( SQRT(3) / 2 ) * d^2, where d is the 'inner diameter' (that being the Battletech measure of 30 meters across, edge to edge). Yeah I was figuring all this on the john this morning when I realized I didn't actually know what 30m meant for a Btech hex, so thanks.
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Sep 14, 2017 20:17
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Yeah I was figuring all this on the john this morning when I realized I didn't actually know what 30m meant for a Btech hex, so thanks. No worries! I 'think' this is correct; I don't have my books to verify, although I'd imagine 30m across has to be 'edge to edge'. It wouldn't make sense otherwise, as movement is made across the 'edges', and not across the 'points'; everything is aligned to the hex edge, and not the corners.
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Sep 14, 2017 20:24
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This is mostly reassurance that progress is happening: I'd say I'm about 50% done with building placement, which means I'm 25% done with the map. I'm doing a little something different to denote building hexes both to make them clearer and so I can have multi-level buildings, but it's going to take a lot longer. Here's a better look at what I'm doing (I'm not sure I'll keep these colors, but they're bright enough to be unmistakable so I probably will):  If any of the players turn out to be colorblind I'll probably turn the hex borders white instead. Edit: I call that block of alternating buildings on the bottom right the Dragon's Teeth Apartment Block. 
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Sep 14, 2017 21:19
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PoptartsNinja posted:Edit: I call that block of alternating buildings on the bottom right the Dragon's Teeth Apartment Block. Wow; you're pulling out all the stops on this one, huh? Fight will be in a government housing complex, complete with soccer stadium and parking structures, plus whatever that self contained 91 hex sky-rise might be (mid-level condos? Judging by the greenery and water feature?) Time for a Soccer-Hooligan Wembley Stadium-style 'mech busting good time.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:34
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CourValant posted:Wow; you're pulling out all the stops on this one, huh? Actually the 91 hex sky-rise will turn out to be a transforming mecha that the PCs will have to beat, possibly by having a pilot sing over their 'Mech's PA system
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Sep 14, 2017 22:05
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In another timeline, that big rear end Drac building would have made a perfect Ghost Bears HQ.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:30
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:. . . the PCs will have to beat, possibly by having a pilot sing over their 'Mech's PA system Ahem. You did note my Forum Avatar Quote, no? Because I Remember Love.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:43
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Yeah but without a macross avatar you look like a scrub.
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Sep 14, 2017 23:41
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It's not done-done, but the layout's finished.
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Sep 15, 2017 01:27
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I foresee many hilarious skid roll fails next mission
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Sep 15, 2017 01:51
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Nothing like some
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PoptartsNinja posted:It's not done-done, but the layout's finished.
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anakha posted:I foresee many hilarious skid roll fails next mission It would only be appropriate, seeing as how we'll be playing a combination of 'hide and seek' and 'laser tag' in that maze. That spider is going to be something else on this map, seeing as how it can clear height level 10 buildings. ***** Edit ***** AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:The Spider is going to have a field day on this one. Awww, beat me to it! AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Is this larger than Konpei Island? I do believe that it is.
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CourValant posted:Ahem. Careful. Harmony Gold might shut this thread down.
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painedforever posted:Careful. Harmony Gold might shut this thread down. . . . take me out, to the black, tell 'em I ain't coming back, burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take GERWALK from me . . .
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Sep 15, 2017 06:59
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PoptartsNinja posted:Hm, what's the best way to show the scale of this monster I've created? Oh, I know! Just plop it onto the stadium, that'll make for some nice explosions.
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Sep 15, 2017 12:38
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evilmiera posted:Just plop it onto the stadium, that'll make for some nice explosions. If I put that building and the stadium in the same hex, you wouldn't be able to see the stadium.
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Having jump jets on this map is going to be a huge advantage. Having jump jets that aren't restricted to only taking the quickest path to a hex is going to be loving bonkers in a city fight.
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apostateCourier posted:Having jump jets on this map is going to be a huge advantage. Having jump jets that aren't restricted to only taking the quickest path to a hex is going to be loving bonkers in a city fight. The dumb thing: any jumper can make a mid-air turn if there's something they can't jump over in the way, but if that object isn't in the way they can't make a midair turn.  In fluff terms I'm pretty sure the jumpers wind up doing a double jump where they make a short hop then a second short hop immediately, but it still amuses me.
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Holy shiiiiiit playing that spider on this map is gonna ownnn. PTN you are a certified crazy man for putting it in the lineup haha.
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Gwaihir posted:Holy shiiiiiit playing that spider on this map is gonna ownnn. Please be me please be me please be me. 
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Everyone gets to be a spider until Grandpa Nergal brings a net. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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RA Rx posted:Everyone gets to be a spider until Grandpa Nergal brings a net. I miss Mechwarrior Ath. Angry Death Wish Grandpa was the best.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjnXUd3QIfw Feels somewhat relevant to the thread. Also had no idea that Mechwarrior Living Legends was back in development.
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PoptartsNinja posted:The dumb thing: any jumper can make a mid-air turn if there's something they can't jump over in the way, but if that object isn't in the way they can't make a midair turn. Incidentally, this is something that isn't modeled in Megamek.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjnXUd3QIfw Yeah I have been playing LL for a few days and it is still fantastic. There are several new units as well as new variants. Unfortunately the removed the all DSSRM Mad Dog 
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Spriting continues! I'm really sorry this is taking so long, I've got a lot to do. We're almost there.   Roughnecks, 3rd Crucis Lancers, Valten Ryder, 2nd Amphigean Light Assault, Sun Zhang Cadre, 16th Legion of Vega
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Sep 16, 2017 01:26
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That would be a Charger. This map also features one of my favorite Inner Sphere `Mechs, the Bandersnatch.
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PoptartsNinja posted:That would be a Charger. I guess that's why it reminds me of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man. "I thought of the one thing that could never hurt us..." [EDIT] In all seriousness, I like the sprite and that color scheme is cool. I didn't know about the Sun Zhang Academy until I looked it up.
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