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The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!
The more I hear this, the more I hear "never buy character models from GW."

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Felime
Jul 10, 2009

The Sex Cannon posted:

Would you even have to worry about filming, necessarily? You could take still shots based on deployment, and at the end of every phase or turn, and then write down the cogent points to be set for narration afterwards? If you approached is systematically with a checklist or something I'm sure you could put something together that's worth a watch. And then maybe leave some time at the end for reactions shot on your phone? You could approach it like a camhammer video.

Also, Felime and I are headed to Games 'n' Stuff in Glen Burnie on Sunday! We're set to have a game at 11 AM (ish) and I'm willing to stick around after for a second game if anyone wants to show up. Maybe a couple of goons show up and we can have a little goon hoe-down or something? That would be fun!

Aye. If anyone wants to stop by, I'm happy to meet more goons and possibly get stomped like the parking lot is probably going to do to me.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Finished those DEldar I was painting.






RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Those are some nice bondage elves. Mhm.

Giant Isopod
Jan 30, 2010

Bathynomus giganteus
Yams Fan
Anyone got any advice (or good pictures of successful conversions!) for converting combi- weapons?

It seems like the usual method is:
1) find weapon, cut off tip
2) stick on bolter

Looks like afaik sisters never had a combi-melta model, just a combi-flamer. The flamer bit is stuck low on the bolter, kinda where one would expect a grenade launcher on a modern weapon.

The marine models for combi-meltas look like they are a whole different model, with the bolter as the underslung part. I don't like the look of this as much, aesthetically, but it makes more sense, I guess, inasmuch as any of these weapons make sense.

I'm guessing it's going to be easier to just tack a melta nozzle (barrel? emitter?) under a bolter, run a wire power cable if I want to be fancy, than to try and convert old metal models to use marine plastic weapons.

I am well aware most people wouldn't care, I'm doing this for fun, and would mostly just like to see other people's success at doing similar projects. This is a little more small and fiddly than anything I've converted so far.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender
Having played a few games with the new Chaos Marine codex (Black Legion x2, World Eaters x2, Iron Warriors x1), I wanted to post some thoughts:

- I need to make more plasma gun mans for my Black Legion

- I keep forgetting to apply the legion traits. That's got to stop.

- I'm pretty impressed with the strategems. As good as some of them seem, I haven't found any of them to be "auto use," nor do they feel significantly better than the baseline strategems available to everyone. Most of the time I still want to use 1 CP to reroll a critical result, though of the ones I have used, I've found the 1 CP to ignore movement penalties on a vehicle firing heavy weapons has been the most helpful overall. In my opinion, this is the ideal outcome.

- Berserkers are so loving good, especially as World Eaters

- Possessed are cool now. They aren't berserker-level good, but I think they're definitely usable now. The extra wound is a big deal and having S5 AP-2 attacks means they're really good at shredding marines and other heavy infantry.

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!
Anyone know if the headlight plate from a space marine bike will fit on a scout bike? The scout one has a critical lack of trim.

Proletariat Beowulf
Jan 7, 2007
I wish meat screamed as I ate it.

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

cult dilemma. 5 aberrants (3 with picks and 2 with hammers) cost the same as 12 stealers. the picks are 1S (5) and 1AP (-2) better than stealers, and do D3 damage. hammers are S10 and poo poo but hitting on 4s. abberants also have an extra wound (2). stealers get an extra attack (3), re-roll 1s to hit, and do -4AP on 6s to wound. they also have their 5++ and can advance and charge in the same turn.

i think i know the answer, but ive already got a million stealers and the abberants are cool minis. help.

Throw a Primus in with Aberrants and they'll eat any armor or elite infantry in existence.

Armies:

GSC
Tyranids
Necrons

Orks*

*quit and selling. BUY MY poo poo.

gently caress the Imperium--aliumz all day erry day :colbert:

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!
If Aberrants had another wound, a better save, or if their Bestial Vigor also reduced damage of 1-damage attacks, they'd probably have a really valuable role as bullet sponges making a slow, inexorable advance. As is their poor save and middle of the road toughness make them really bad tank units, and small arms fire devastates them.

If you already have so many Genestealers that another unit won't make much difference, I'd say give the Aberrants a shot. Either hide them in a Goliath or hope for a lucky Cult Ambush roll and use them as either an anti-armor or anti-Terminator scalpel. Mixing weapon types doesn't seem like a great idea to me tbh, since if you go after vehicles it means half of your rolls will be comparatively disadvantaged due to the picks, so I'd have a Primus chill with them in a Rockgrinder and slam it into any vehicle your regular Stealers can't eat through.

Cainer
May 8, 2008

Zuul the Cat posted:

Kataphrons (as of the index) can already advance and shoot with no negative modifiers to shooting, but only get to advance D3". I think all of their guns, except for the Flamer and Phosphor Blaster, are all heavy.

Well no, Kataphrons can move and shoot without negative modifiers, they have no such rule for advancing.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

The Bee posted:

If Aberrants had another wound, a better save, or if their Bestial Vigor also reduced damage of 1-damage attacks, they'd probably have a really valuable role as bullet sponges making a slow, inexorable advance. As is their poor save and middle of the road toughness make them really bad tank units, and small arms fire devastates them.

If you already have so many Genestealers that another unit won't make much difference, I'd say give the Aberrants a shot. Either hide them in a Goliath or hope for a lucky Cult Ambush roll and use them as either an anti-armor or anti-Terminator scalpel. Mixing weapon types doesn't seem like a great idea to me tbh, since if you go after vehicles it means half of your rolls will be comparatively disadvantaged due to the picks, so I'd have a Primus chill with them in a Rockgrinder and slam it into any vehicle your regular Stealers can't eat through.

Genestealer Cult is p bad anyways, so might as well just play what you want.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Cainer posted:

Well no, Kataphrons can move and shoot without negative modifiers, they have no such rule for advancing.

Oh, I see what you're saying. They can't both advance and shoot, correct?

Cainer
May 8, 2008

Zuul the Cat posted:

Oh, I see what you're saying. They can't both advance and shoot, correct?

Ya basically, they really should have worded that rule a bit differently. Like "Can move and shoot heavy weapons without suffering the -1 but they can only advance d3'''

Balder
Apr 3, 2011
Because I like graphs:

Chaos space marines
Imperial guard
Orks

DanoTuka
Apr 8, 2015

Question for you guys, probably better in the painting thread but I dont actually know where that is.. feel free to call me a noob and correct my ignorance.

I see pictures where people have stuck the model in some type of clay or putty, and attached that to a 'base' of some form that they use to paint before they actually glue the fuckers on the round plastic "play games with me" base.

What is that putty/clay stuff? Is it some craft supply? A wad of gum? The poo poo you use to stick stuff to walls or glow in the dark stars to ceilings?

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug

DanoTuka posted:

Question for you guys, probably better in the painting thread but I dont actually know where that is.. feel free to call me a noob and correct my ignorance.

I see pictures where people have stuck the model in some type of clay or putty, and attached that to a 'base' of some form that they use to paint before they actually glue the fuckers on the round plastic "play games with me" base.

What is that putty/clay stuff? Is it some craft supply? A wad of gum? The poo poo you use to stick stuff to walls or glow in the dark stars to ceilings?

blu-tac, for hanging posters, is probably the most common thing you'll see

DanoTuka
Apr 8, 2015

bonds0097 posted:

blu-tac, for hanging posters, is probably the most common thing you'll see

Thank you!

Next question on deck:

I'm a scrub who didn't think to magnetize his Redemptor Dread, are there any sites (besides ebay) where I might find *just* his arms?

I still have the parts for the other arm weapons, and the arms can be swapped out (not glued).
I was thinking I could just have two sets of arms instead of buying another whole dread kit.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

DanoTuka posted:

Question for you guys, probably better in the painting thread but I dont actually know where that is..

It's here. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3705692

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
I like doing weird batch painting groupings. This time around I did a squad of 3 scout bikers and the old Captain Draco model from 3rd ed, who will be serving as a lieutenant.
Fast Attack choices are universally kind of a pain to paint:








This guy was real fun though:



goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
I loving love biker models (loyalist and Chaos) and I'd love to field an all-biker army but I've always been depressed at how much they cost

DanoTuka
Apr 8, 2015

DanoTuka posted:

I'm a scrub who didn't think to magnetize his Redemptor Dread, are there any sites (besides ebay) where I might find *just* his arms?

I still have the parts for the other arm weapons, and the arms can be swapped out (not glued).
I was thinking I could just have two sets of arms instead of buying another whole dread kit.

Found em, out of stock though.

http://www.hobbytitan.com/warhammer-40k-bits-space-marines-redemptor-close-combat-arm-gun-mount/

DanoTuka
Apr 8, 2015

SRM posted:

This guy was real fun though:



Awesome! Love the red. Characters are always my favorite too, line men are boring.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

DanoTuka posted:

Awesome! Love the red. Characters are always my favorite too, line men are boring.

Thanks! I'm gonna be doing more cloaks in that red going forward, I was super happy with it. And hey, linemen are my favorite thing to paint! It's vehicles where I really start to lose interest. Good thing I just primed two...

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

I love those helmets. Who would have guessed that a few WHFB heads were all it took to fix Scouts! The crosses on them add a real sinister vibe that totally works with Black Templars.

Nice work!

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

SRM posted:

This guy was real fun though:

This guy turned out great. The rich red is particularly nice.

I still really like a lot of the older metal character models. I've got a few laying around that I've been meaning to strip and re-paint. Like the 3rd edition captain with the power axe. :black101:




goose willis posted:

I loving love biker models (loyalist and Chaos) and I'd love to field an all-biker army but I've always been depressed at how much they cost
Never look at the 30k bike options.

One day, I'll do proper jetbike Ravenwing. One day. :shepspends:

Sharks Dont Sleep
Mar 4, 2009

In pairing luxury automobiles with large predatory felines we have achieved reality ahead of schedule.

Giant Isopod posted:

Anyone got any advice (or good pictures of successful conversions!) for converting combi- weapons?

It seems like the usual method is:
1) find weapon, cut off tip
2) stick on bolter

Looks like afaik sisters never had a combi-melta model, just a combi-flamer. The flamer bit is stuck low on the bolter, kinda where one would expect a grenade launcher on a modern weapon.

The marine models for combi-meltas look like they are a whole different model, with the bolter as the underslung part. I don't like the look of this as much, aesthetically, but it makes more sense, I guess, inasmuch as any of these weapons make sense.

I'm guessing it's going to be easier to just tack a melta nozzle (barrel? emitter?) under a bolter, run a wire power cable if I want to be fancy, than to try and convert old metal models to use marine plastic weapons.

I am well aware most people wouldn't care, I'm doing this for fun, and would mostly just like to see other people's success at doing similar projects. This is a little more small and fiddly than anything I've converted so far.

There are some great 3rd party conversion kits for combi weapons for what it's worth. Kromlech and Puppetswar I think. Maybe spellcrow too.

a cock shaped fruit
Aug 23, 2010



The true enemy of humanity is disorder.
Also the space marine captain box is super affordable and has a combi plasma + melta in it, and you'd be surprised how many SM playing friends have them spare.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
The sternguard box isn't cheap but does come with two of each combiweapon.

Crab-Stuffed
Jul 24, 2006

Objective Secured!





Anyone else have cool objectives to share? What've been your favorite (read: fun / balanced) missions so far?

Kabuki Shipoopi
Jun 22, 2007

If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

glitchkrieg posted:

That's a nice pink, what's the recipe for that?

Thanks! It's just straight from the bottles.

P3 white primer
MSP 29853 Rosy Pink base
Carroburgh Crimson Citadel wash
Vallejo 72.013 Squid Pink highlights

I like it so much I'm seriously thinking about repainting my army. :negative:

Uroboros posted:

I think that Lucius looks pretty drat good. Problem with edging is there is no real shortcut for them. Model quality also makes it harder, that Lucius looks like finecast so it's harder to properly do compared to the new stuff.

It is. I'm not so much looking for a shortcut as I am straight up jealous. I finished him up a bit today. I am having trouble bringing out the reds in the whip to contrast the pink of the armor without making them look too plasticy or like twizzlers. I'll post some pics tomorrow after work.

Also I just bought the Armageddon game day case from ebay for $50 and this thing is loving gigantic. I can carry 4 Baneblades in this motherfucker. :stare:

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

goose willis posted:

I loving love biker models (loyalist and Chaos) and I'd love to field an all-biker army but I've always been depressed at how much they cost

Once upon a time I built mine out of several Ravenwing battleforces, but that box is long dead sadly.


Crab-Stuffed posted:

Objective Secured!





Anyone else have cool objectives to share? What've been your favorite (read: fun / balanced) missions so far?

These are really cool. I need to make up another objective since I only have 5 from back when that waa the maximum (and also number them).

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Hencoe posted:

https://www.warhammer-tactics.com/s...rnament-players
Found this little article posted up on a local page, what's your guys thoughts on it?

I gotta say, a lot of those assertions hold up once you realize that the people who stick in your memory best are the douchehats. They're also the ones who will be sure to tell you in the first five minutes you've met them about all the tourneys they've placed in/won.

The author pretty much failed to convince me he had anything good to say at the point he started arguing that 'overpowered' was only meaningful relative to 'the meta', because casual players do not care about the tournament meta for the most part, and aren't going to build for it. Especially when he follows up with going on about how he runs the current snowflake unintentional rules interaction list solely because it is clearly more powerful.

It's cool that he likes to win, winning is part of the game after all, but there's a time and place for cutthroat play and the foul reputation of dedicated tourney players among many casual players has a lot to do with the number of them unable or flatly unwilling to dial it back. You see the same thing in M:TG, ironically enough.

Edit : One thing I'm actually quite pleased with New!GW over is that they've provided a pretty clear solution to the following, via rapidly updating FAQs :

"Regarding the claim that tournament players ‘interpret the rules in ways unintended’, I have already written extensively on this blog about how it is extremely difficult, and in many cases impossible, to discern the intent of the author when writing a particular rule."

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Sep 14, 2017

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender
Been working on my Deffwatch mans over the past couple of weeks, both to finish off the army and to move all the half-assembled mans off my painting station where they're taking up shitloads of room with their 32mm bases. i'm about 90% done with the army at this point, I think.






Next up: 1 more bike, 1 more terminator, 1 more jumpmans, and a razorback. Everything after that is optional.

Luebbi
Jul 28, 2000
I got my new mat in, and also finished painting up my 2k list, so I decided to take all my painted 'nids out for a group shot.



I've only got my lovely cellphone cam, so it didn't come out that great - but still, seeing it all on the table like that feels great. Next up, another Broodlord and 8 more genestealers to get the count up to 40!

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

TheChirurgeon posted:

Been working on my Deffwatch mans over the past couple of weeks, both to finish off the army and to move all the half-assembled mans off my painting station where they're taking up shitloads of room with their 32mm bases. i'm about 90% done with the army at this point, I think.






Next up: 1 more bike, 1 more terminator, 1 more jumpmans, and a razorback. Everything after that is optional.

This is so good I want to buy a deathwatch start collecting box and see if I can pull it off

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
Info from a guy on /tg/ who went to the latest GW shareholder meeting:

quote:

Performance:
>sales are up across the board - in every sector, every range, and every month
>all the charts are pointing in the right direction
>surplus cash will be returned to shareholders as dividends

Strategy:
>they've recruited so that they now have separate design teams for 40k, AoS and specialist games
>this is to allow them to release something for each of those lines on a regular basis, monthly at least if not faster
>they want there to constantly be something new for players to buy rather than them waiting for months on end
>keeping a constant monthly cashflow and sales improvement is important to them, it's not about a few big releases a year
>efforts are being made to reduce the price point and make joining the game easier, thus the range of price points for 8th (from £5 magazine with single figure up to £95 boxed set)
>target areas for new stores are North America and Asia
>trade (FLGSs) is more profitable than retail (GW stores), but the latter is more important for recruitment. They intend to do more to support both
>they want to bring more women into the hobby, but don't want to alienate the existing playerbase while doing so, it is something they're aware of (but no details as yet)
>prices aren't dropping any time soon
>production is pushing up against maximum capacity, they're going to be investing a fair bit in new injection moulding machinery

Marketing:
>they hired a marketing team about 18 months ago
>they have no intention of mass-marketing
>the digital strategy is an attempt to get control of the narrative, they identified the fact that all the web traffic was going to blogs and forums where new (and old) players would meet a lot of negativity and grumbling
>it's working, their web traffic is high and growing (2 million unique users on warhammer community, for example), the traffic on 3rd party sites is falling
>they are measuring clickthroughs and doing more market research about customers, no granular info yet, but a big change in direction from the Kirby years
>they intend to carry on being much more proactive in supporting tournament organisers and the like


40k:
>none of them are allowed to say, but from what I wheedled out it sounds like 8th is doing very well indeed, they consider it a success
>the gathering storm stuf and SW:A was a strategy to prevent the normal big sales drop-off they get before a new edition (like they did with WHFB's end times)

AoS:
>they won't provide figures for individual ranges, but sales are up
>overlords did well

Specialist games:
>the reason they abandoned these in the past was because they had a small design team which was hard to expand, so they put the focus into the most profitable lines (40k and fantasy), that's not an issue any more
>the success of BB caught them by surprise, which is why there was a fairly big gap between gobbos and elves. The latter are the first team designed entirely since release, they intend to continue releasing about one team per quarter
>necromunda will have better support from the get go, they want to get more of the gangs out at release or shortly thereafter and have future plastics more planned out
>aiming to make them very customisable, extra weapons and upgrades will probably be available in resin
>cawdor got a mention, might mean that they're coming at release or might just mean that that's one they're working on now
>HH has been derailed a bit by Bligh's death and producing a new rulebook. Now that's in the printers they're getting back on with it, there are plenty of models in the pipeline
>there are no more HH plastics planned at the moment. Never say never, but production time is at least a year, so don't expect anything anytime soon.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
There's some drat fine ham on this page.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
Those freehand 3s on those Deathwatch are awesome. How'd you do the lizard loincloth?

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

MasterSlowPoke posted:

Those freehand 3s on those Deathwatch are awesome. How'd you do the lizard loincloth?

Thanks! I probably could have put a bit more time into them, but they look good enough out of photos.

The loincloth is part of the model, actually. I wanted to do a model to represent BuffaloChicken's brother's homebrew chapter of space marines called the Flame Drakes iirc. They're a Salamanders offshoot. Back when the Deathwatch Overkill box set came out, I ordered a few of the terminator models to get extra shoulder pads and powerfist+meltagun arms, so I had a few extra terminator bodies. I used one of those and trimmed off the shoulder shield on it to get another terminator with similar Salamander-esque aesthetics.

The original DW:Overkill model

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Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

ngl if they update the emperor's children range at bigmar scale and release fulgrim i would give gw a lot of money

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