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CLAM DOWN posted:It's version 2.17.236 That means there are no notification channels so yeah, it's not generating a hidden background notification that the BGN is catching. I don't know, man. I feel like there's no common thread at all to what does and doesn't cause it.
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LastInLine posted:no common thread Googled again
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LastInLine posted:That means there are no notification channels so yeah, it's not generating a hidden background notification that the BGN is catching. I don't know, man. I feel like there's no common thread at all to what does and doesn't cause it. Not to mention that according to Ron Amadeo's write up Whatsapp should be exempt from generating the notification as should all messaging apps, live wallpapers, etc. I'd chalk it up to Oreo growing pains and tough it out personally. Desk Lamp fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Knowlue posted:I installed oreo on my 5x last night and didn't encounter many problems except that my keyboard would minimize while I typed. But today around noon my phone will just restart for no reason. I left it on my desk and it consistently just keeps resetting itself. Has anyone encountered this issue and resolved it? Sounds like you've got a case of the Boot Loops. Did you buy your phone through Google? You can call/chat with them and get a replacement (and they might even let you get a Pixel).
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https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/14/16309196/essential-phone-headphone-jack-module-announced There's apparently an AMA going on with the Essential guys. Quick bullet points: - Looks like a 3.5mm headphone jack is going to be the next add-on for the magnetic pins. - They are aware that their camera software is poo poo and are working to make it less so lovely. - They claim they are updating to Android O inside of two months from now. - They start shipping the white, non-fingerprint-magnet version in the next two weeks or so.
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Desk Lamp posted:I'd chalk it up to Oreo growing pains and though it out personally. Yup I've done exactly that, not worrying about it anymore. Thanks for the help thought LastinLine. DeathSandwich posted:- Looks like a 3.5mm headphone jack is going to be the next add-on for the magnetic pins. 
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Sep 14, 2017 22:02
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Internet Explorer posted:In regards to Duo Security backing up 3rd party 2FA tokens... What is this Duo security you keep mentioning and why would a person be using it? I can't say I remember it ever being mentioned in this thread.
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Desk Lamp posted:Not to mention that according to Ron Amadeo's write up Whatsapp should be exempt from generating the notification as should all messaging apps, live wallpapers, etc. Agreed. I get the persistent notification when I login to the app and use LastPass, and when afaik I'm doing absolutely nothing else that should be running in the background (no music, no weather widgets, nothing).
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Thermopyle posted:What is this Duo security you keep mentioning and why would a person be using it? I can't say I remember it ever being mentioned in this thread. It's a 2FA app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.duosecurity.duomobile  Interestingly enough, today I factory defaulted my Pixel, and as part of it, I had to reconfigure about ten tokens. I have 8in Authenticator Plus, which restored fine, 1 in RSA SecureID and Duo Mobile each. Before I wiped, I checked Duo and saw it had a backup method, so I did it, figuring it'd save me time, but like the post above mentioned, after a restore it required me to go back to the 2FA site and pull down the QR code again. I was a little miffed since the app didn't say that it couldn't actually restore this code. Fortunately I was able to get it reset, but sometimes with out the code you can't log into the site and get the new QR, so it's a hassle. EDIT: I just checked, and the site I'm using doesn't work in Authenticator Plus, you have to use Duo. So I'm not sure what's up. Super-NintendoUser fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Well yes I can look up it's play store page too. I'm wondering why it came up all of a sudden in the thread and why someone was using it rather than the Authenticator+ that's constantly recommended here. In other words is it better than the thread recommended app?
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Red Warrior posted:PSA - if you enrolled in the Android beta program to get Oreo for your Nexus or Pixel and are waiting on the September security update, unenroll your device. Then do an update check on the phone and you should get the security update. Cheers for this, it applies instantly which is nice. Downloading the patch now, 42.1MB. It's not letting me download over mobile data connection though, WiFi only. Is it always like that even for small patches?
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DeathSandwich posted:https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/14/16309196/essential-phone-headphone-jack-module-announced Oh man. I guess if the "high end audio" part of that module is for real, that might... be... neat? Like a really good portable DAC that sticks to the phone. Still, this just reeks of pointless attempt at justifying the modularity. Also, guys, goddamn. Stop giving timelines when you haven't stuck to a single one yet.
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Desk Lamp posted:Not to mention that according to Ron Amadeo's write up Whatsapp should be exempt from generating the notification as should all messaging apps, live wallpapers, etc. It doesn't target Oreo so that's probably why it isn't exempt.
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LastInLine posted:It doesn't target Oreo so that's probably why it isn't exempt. Yup, WhatsApp (even the latest beta) still targets 7.1/API 25.
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Thermopyle posted:Well yes I can look up it's play store page too. I'm wondering why it came up all of a sudden in the thread and why someone was using it rather than the Authenticator+ that's constantly recommended here. Its an enterprise 2FA. My firm runs it to tie in remote access into our intranet. Internet Explorer and I work in the same industry, and I'm guessing it was the best at marketing to our IT Directors.
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sirbeefalot posted:Oh man. I guess if the "high end audio" part of that module is for real, that might... be... neat? Like a really good portable DAC that sticks to the phone. Still, this just reeks of pointless attempt at justifying the modularity. I was thinking this would be one of the early addons from them. Not only add the port but also have a high end DAC that makes it compete or surpass the other phones that have one that does the same. (HTC10/V10 whatever phones left that have a headphone port that isn't junk) Nevermind on the update. I feel even the article quoted 2 months is a bit optimistic for Oreo, however it still might be quicker than most other devices to get it that aren't Pixel/Nexus. Oooo Looks like they will be releasing the Kernel Source and Factory Images in the next few days (So in like 3 weeks). That is promising at least. EdEddnEddy fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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So the Sony Xperia XZs, I haven't heard much (anything) about this phone at all. How is it? The features and price seems pretty decent.
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Tiny Lowtax posted:So the Sony Xperia XZs, I haven't heard much (anything) about this phone at all. How is it? The features and price seems pretty decent. Did they disable the fingerprint reader for the US model again? edit: lol of course they did nimper fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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nimper posted:Did they disable the fingerprint reader for the US model again? Why did they do this? Some sort of patent or security concern in the US alone?
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nimper posted:Did they disable the fingerprint reader for the US model again? Why do they do this? WTF is wrong with Sony? Back in 2015 they released their Concept ROM for the Xperia Z3 and Z3 Compact. It was basically stock Android 6 with their own launcher and a few apps added in. Got security updates very swiftly and it's the smoothest Android experience I've had outside of the Pixel. Why didn't they just continue that and change the hardware design language even a little the past 4 years?
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Thermopyle posted:Well yes I can look up it's play store page too. I'm wondering why it came up all of a sudden in the thread and why someone was using it rather than the Authenticator+ that's constantly recommended here. deong posted:Its an enterprise 2FA. My firm runs it to tie in remote access into our intranet. Internet Explorer and I work in the same industry, and I'm guessing it was the best at marketing to our IT Directors. I actually am the IT Director, so there's that.  Like Deong said, it's enterprise 2FA. I like it as it will prompt for authentication, users just have to hit "Approve" instead of having to enter in a token. Integrates with quite a few things including Confluence, LastPass, Citrix, etc. They have Windows login integration but I have not tried that yet. Does other fun things like user self-enrollment, directory sync, SMS and voice options. Will also monitor devices to make sure they're encrypted and have appropriate lock mechanisms in place before they can be used. Geotags 2FA challenges, tracks to make sure devices are up to date, tracks what applications or browsers are issuing the 2FA challenge. Stuff like that. There's other players in the space, but Authenticator Plus is more single-user / home use. There no way in hell I could roll that out to my users. They had just added the functionality I mentioned of backing up the config to Google Drive or iCloud so all you have to do is sign your new phone back into that, install the app, then do a quick "this is me" email to restore functionality for their integrated 2FA stuff. I had wrongfully assumed it did the 3rd party 2FA setups, similar to Authenticator Plus, but it turns out it does not do that. I'm sure they'll add it down the line. So all that being said, I just added all my non-Duo integrated stuff to Authenticator Plus, because doing recovery for all the 2FA I have was getting tiresome at the rate at which I am going through 5X's. It's not expensive and they have a trial if you're genuinely curious and want to play around with it.
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EdEddnEddy posted:Why did they do this? Some sort of patent or security concern in the US alone? Sony signed an exclusivity deal with one carrier that would have only allowed the fingerprint scanner to be use used on phones sold by that carrier in the US. There was never any follow through on the deal but Sony doesn't know if the contract is still binding. So, they're shipping phones with the scanner disabled in software to avoid legal repercussions. It's been reported a number of times by a number of different news sites. https://www.phonearena.com/news/Oh...-so-thats-why-Sony-disables-its-fingerprint-scanners-in-the-USA_id91545
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grack posted:Sony signed an exclusivity deal with one carrier that would have only allowed the fingerprint scanner to be use used on phones sold by that carrier in the US. There was never any follow through on the deal but Sony doesn't know if the contract is still binding. So, they're shipping phones with the scanner disabled in software to avoid legal repercussions. It's been reported a number of times by a number of different news sites. God that's loving stupid.
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grack posted:Sony signed an exclusivity deal with one carrier that would have only allowed the fingerprint scanner to be use used on phones sold by that carrier in the US. There was never any follow through on the deal but Sony doesn't know if the contract is still binding. So, they're shipping phones with the scanner disabled in software to avoid legal repercussions. It's been reported a number of times by a number of different news sites. If it's just disabled in software, has someone figured out how to re-enable it via sideloading/rooting/custom ROMs?
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DeathSandwich posted:If it's just disabled in software, has someone figured out how to re-enable it via sideloading/rooting/custom ROMs? Yeah. You have to gently caress around with Flashtool but it can definitely be done.
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One of the reasons Sony doesn't have the fingerprint sensor in the US is Apple. In 2015 they were awarded a patent on integrating the sensor with the power button. Sony's market share in the US is too small to either risk a patent lawsuit or try to licence it from Apple, so it is left out. As long as the power button fingerprint sensor remains a Sony mainstay, it will likely be excluded from the US.
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Edit: I don't think that's true. The patent would be for the specific way in which the fingerprint scanner works.
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Maybe, I just know that was the most popular theory.
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I would like Sony to be more popular in the US. I don't know a lot about their phones, but from what little I do know, in general, I'd choose them over Samsung (if I had to choose one of them).
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My Xperia Z3 was excellent until the waterproofing failed. A beautiful phone that ran well and had a great camera.
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Thermopyle posted:I would like Sony to be more popular in the US. I don't know a lot about their phones, but from what little I do know, in general, I'd choose them over Samsung (if I had to choose one of them). I still use my Xperia tablet every day, it's a great reader and excellent to use watching movies on the plane.
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Flossy has an Essential PH-1 unboxing video up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsM66Ty01Wg Basically its too drat expensive for what you get. White Shoes on deck.
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grack posted:Sony signed an exclusivity deal with one carrier that would have only allowed the fingerprint scanner to be use used on phones sold by that carrier in the US. There was never any follow through on the deal but Sony doesn't know if the contract is still binding. So, they're shipping phones with the scanner disabled in software to avoid legal repercussions. It's been reported a number of times by a number of different news sites. Name and shame, Sony! Or, you know, just have the legal team renegotiate the contract. That seems reasonable, right? Then again it's the same legal team that drew up the contract to begin with, so maybe nevermind...
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Welp. I dunno how she managed it, but I presume the update to Oreo put my mother's Pixel XL into a bootloop. What're the options here? Flash a clean factory rom onto it? e: Did a fastboot update of the latest OTA. Still stuck at the "Google" splash screen on boot. Is it dead, Jim? PerrineClostermann fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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nimper posted:Name and shame, Sony! Or, you know, just have the legal team renegotiate the contract. That seems reasonable, right? Then again it's the same legal team that drew up the contract to begin with, so maybe nevermind... So Sony can't license Power Button + Reader but LG Can? Pretty bad on Sony if that is the case alone.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Welp. I dunno how she managed it, but I presume the update to Oreo put my mother's Pixel XL into a bootloop. What're the options here? Flash a clean factory rom onto it? Pixels have dual system partitions. The idea is if an update fails to work, it should automatically boot from the previous, working partition. You could try flashing the image but you likely can't since you didn't unlock the bootloader and can't without being able to boot into Android. Trying won't hurt but you'll likely need to call Google.
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