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It happens in the film too when Ben is getting carved up and the old folks in the car just drive on by. There's even a balloon there to drive home Pennywise is having some influence there.
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Speaking of It, apparently, Stephen King doesn't understand why everyone's so weirded out by the orgy scene in the original book.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:28
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Stephen King probably shits himself nonchalantly as his characters do.
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Neito posted:Speaking of It, apparently, Stephen King doesn't understand why everyone's so weirded out by the orgy scene in the original book. The "people care about sex but not all the violence!" would carry more weight if he didn't describe each one of the kid's dicks in painful detail
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Two things I never need to read nor see ever again - the kiddy orgy and the puppy getting shoved into the fridge.
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EmmyOk posted:The "people care about sex but not all the violence!" would carry more weight if he didn't describe each one of the kid's dicks in painful detail Also like, if there was an orgy porn video where halfway through a clown came in and murdered a guy nobody would be talking about the sex
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sixth and maimed posted:There's that but the novel also mentions how Pennywise controls the town as in manipulating adults to ignore things. In one part of the book, one of the kids (forgot which but I think it was Bev), she mentions how she was being attacked on the street and an adult that was seeing the scene just got up from his porch, folded his newspaper and went inside. There's other stuff like that, too. Right, but that kind of thing was in service to the overall theme of adults not noticing/caring what's going on with the kids. I mean that kind of thing happens all the time in real life (kid getting abused/beaten up/whatever, an adult who clearly sees it decides to ignore it), Pennywise just provided a supernatural explanation for it happening the way it did in the books.
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EmmyOk posted:The "people care about sex but not all the violence!" would carry more weight if he didn't describe each one of the kid's dicks in painful detail Plus there's the scene in his story "The Library Policeman" from "Four Past Midnight" where he describes a boy getting sodomized by a child molester in graphic detail (don't read "The Library Policeman" by the way)
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Neito posted:Speaking of It, apparently, Stephen King doesn't understand why everyone's so weirded out by the orgy scene in the original book. It's a train, not an orgy.
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Eh! Frank posted:don't read "The Library Policeman" by the way  it was in middle school and I still remember it clearly 20+ years later
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rydiafan posted:I know reading threads is hard, but it's on this page still. I read that as "here's some other thing from the movie". Pretty cool detail though.
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The Bloop posted:too late I don't remember it super clearly but I recall something about the description of the monster's eye-stalks really freaking me out He has a lot of garbage short-stories (a lot of Nightmares and Dreamscapes, for ex), but some of them can really stick with you
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MNIMWA posted:He has a lot of garbage short-stories (a lot of Nightmares and Dreamscapes, for ex), but some of them can really stick with you Survivor Type.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Survivor Type. I forgot that title, but I didn't forget that story, that's for sure.
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marshmallow creep posted:I forgot that title, but I didn't forget that story, that's for sure. Ladyfingers they taste just like ladyfingers. That and The Jaunt's "LONGER THAN YOU THINK, DAD!" are two lines from Skeleton Crew I don't think I'll ever forget.
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marshmallow creep posted:I forgot that title, but I didn't forget that story, that's for sure. I remember I read that one and "Guts" by Chuck Palahniuk in the same morning. I think I skipped all my meals that day.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I remember I read that one and "Guts" by Chuck Palahniuk in the same morning. I read the book that had that story, and it was biggest load of wank you could put on paper short of mixing it in the printer's ink. Inspector Gesicht has a new favorite as of 00:56 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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It's the only Chuck Palahniuk I've ever read so I don't have anything else by him to compare it to.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Ladyfingers they taste just like ladyfingers. The LONGER THAN YOU THINK boy isn't close to the worst thing from that story, it's the inventor shutting down all the portals then pushing his wife and kid through (who will presumably be conscious and aware for the rest of time)
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Wheat Loaf posted:It's the only Chuck Palahniuk I've ever read so I don't have anything else by him to compare it to. He's good in small doses.
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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:The LONGER THAN YOU THINK boy isn't close to the worst thing from that story, it's the inventor shutting down all the portals then pushing his wife and kid through (who will presumably be conscious and aware for the rest of time) It's not the inventor, and he only pushes his wife through, not that that's much better. You'd think that the Jaunt staff would be trained to make sure people are really, really unconscious.
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Beachcomber posted:It's not the inventor, and he only pushes his wife through, not that that's much better. You'd think that the Jaunt staff would be trained to make sure people are really, really unconscious. Really its no more horrifying than any other industrial accident caused by a lack of crucial safety features.
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I think of the end of The Jaunt every time I see that Canadian safety video with the lady sous chef.
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I read a bunch of King books when I was 12 or 13 and eventually got to Gerald's Game and still regret that decision twenty years later. To be on topic, regarding the new IT their turning Bev into a stereotypical damsel in distress sort of annoyed me even if it was a way to have her bringing the kids together without the weird gangbang scene. pr0zac has a new favorite as of 03:52 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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Tunicate posted:Really its no more horrifying than any other industrial accident caused by a lack of crucial safety features. Except that when someone gets torn up like that they aren't stuck that way, undying until the death of the universe.
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In the 1980s there was a Peanuts animated TV special called Snoopy!!! The Musical (which I believe adapted the stage production of the same name). As I'm sure everybody knows, in the comic strip, Snoopy's inner monologue is communicated by thought balloons, but in this movie, Snoopy "speaks" via a voice-over that none of the other characters can hear (performed by Cam Clarke, who has a really lovely singing voice). I think it's the only time Snoopy has "spoken" in an adaptation and it's really strange.
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Wheat Loaf posted:In the 1980s there was a Peanuts animated TV special called Snoopy!!! The Musical (which I believe adapted the stage production of the same name). "Charlie, did you like my sunglasses?"
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muscles like this! posted:He's good in small doses. He wrote a book called Non Fiction that is actually really good for this exact reason. The whole book is 4-10 page anecdotes about poo poo that he's done and people he's met. Couple of those a night is about as much as you can handle, so it's the perfect dose.
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pr0zac posted:I read a bunch of King books when I was 12 or 13 and eventually got to Gerald's Game and still regret that decision twenty years later. Eddie would have been a better choice though you'd sacrifice him standing up to his ma I guess. I'd pick the jewish kid but I think most people would react with "who's Stanley?". For a rationally irritating moment I felt like Mike was under utilised. I'm assuming he'll have a bigger role in the adult part because he could have easily been cut from this one. His story and role was good but he basically disappears for 50 minutes after he first sees Pennywise until after the quarry and then he's just part of the gang. Also his quote about "I'm an outsider" felt like it was based on a scene left on the cutting room floor. He just felt really rushed.
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I still enjoy Borat but I'm a little uncomfortable with a Jewish comedian making a movie with jokes about how much the eastern european village hate Jews while also joking about how they are a buch of backwards sister-fuckers and so on.
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TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:I h the eastern european village hate Jews while also joking about how they are a buch of backwards sister-fuckers and so on. Central Asian village.
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Patattack posted:Literally any work of fiction: "OK BUT WHAT IF IT WAS ALL IN [main character's] HEAD??" The only time a fan theory that was "it's all in his head" worked for me was Mass Effect 3 and the Indoctrination Theory, because it was a better way to explain the ending instead of "and then the writer poo poo himself to death".
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I remember a comments discussion on the A.V. Club some years ago where there was one guy who got irrationally angry at the Buffy episode "Normal Again" (the one where a demon makes her hallucinate that she's a normal girl in a mental hospital and her adventures as the Slayer are all in her head) because he seemed to believe that all fiction exists in this aether and that no writer actually "creates" anything but rather just "discovers" it, so this episode contradicted Buffy's "real" life. The "It was all just a dream!" angle is more lazy than anything. I wonder how folks in 1988 took the finale of St. Elsewhere.
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Wheat Loaf posted:The "It was all just a dream!" angle is more lazy than anything. I wonder how folks in 1988 took the finale of St. Elsewhere. Back a few years more to 1985, I remember Mother being incensed that the whole of season 9 of Dallas was written off as all being the dream of one of the characters; even as a twelve-year-old I remember thinking Surely that's really bad writing? 
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Season 9 of Dallas is still held as the prime example of why you should never do that.
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I find the IDEA of the Dallas one funny. That people were sat around in the writers room going "Well guys, we've hosed this one RIGHT up. How on earth do we turn this around?" and someone pitched "Pretend the last season didn't happen" and no one had anything better.
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Kruller posted:The only time a fan theory that was "it's all in his head" worked for me was Mass Effect 3 and the Indoctrination Theory, because it was a better way to explain the ending instead of "and then the writer poo poo himself to death". Yeah, that one is great! I mean that concept can work in some cases--I personally have a half-serious theory that in Moonrise Kingdom everything that happens after he's struck by lightning isn't real--but a lot of the time there's zero evidence for it, like the theory that all the babies in Rugrats were stillborn or some poo poo and Angelica is imagining that they're alive.
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Also a tip-of-the-hat to the Dynasty spin-off 'The Colbys' finale a couple years later with Emma Samms being abducted by aliens; go big or go home, writers!
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Wheat Loaf posted:The "It was all just a dream!" angle is more lazy than anything. I wonder how folks in 1988 took the finale of St. Elsewhere. One of my favorite "somebody put way too much effort into this" things on the Internet is the Tommy Westphall Unified TV Universe theory, which is as follows: some shows crossed over with St. Elsewhere during its run, other shows crossed over with those shows, and yet more shows crossed over with those shows, etc...implying that they all occur in a shared universe. But because St. Elsewhere was all in Tommy Westphall's imagination, it stands to reason that all of the 400+ shows that can theoretically be connected to it are also all imagined by him, as part of some grand fantasy-world tapestry. 
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