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WampaLord posted:This essentially sums up my views on it as well. We can't put the gun toothpaste back in the tube at this point, let's just focus on poo poo like making sure we don't destroy the earth and that people have a right to healthcare and poo poo like that. fair enough. although well have climat change economic disasters before tackling gun control is convenient. just in time for me to actually need a gun for protection against mad max
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Hellblazer187 posted:The filibuster also prevented a public option, which would have made Obamacare more popular and work better. It also prevented a bigger stimulus package, which might have helped prevent the GOP takeover in 2010. The fillibuster does more for the GOP than it does for the democrats. Or maybe instead of keeping Obamacare, we would've seen the ACA+public option get repealed in 2017.
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PerniciousKnid posted:Or maybe instead of keeping Obamacare, we would've seen the ACA+public option get repealed in 2017. That would be a point if they got 59 votes for repeal. They got 49.
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Lemming posted:. . . I think a few Republicans actually care about tradition, to a point. GreyjoyBastard posted:I guess that's fair. I disagree that it was enough to be a backbreaker (given how much they were trying to do) but reasonable people can disagree in the details. You could certainly be right. Last year I was all for doing as much as we could, by hook or by crook, and let public support be the defense; but watching the Republicans undo Obama's legacy has adjusted my attitude. The GOP have demonstrated that they'll happily rip up anything Dems pass, even if it's extremely popular.
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Hellblazer187 posted:That would be a point if they got 59 votes for repeal. They got 49. The point is they could've gotten to 50 if they had more leeway to play with stuff like abortion funding or whatever the nuts wanted.
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PerniciousKnid posted:I think a few Republicans actually care about tradition, to a point. hahahahahahahahahaha
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Hellblazer187 posted:Which they is too few? The, "all-or-nothing, immediately," crowd. They're mostly just implied to exist. quote:What I'm saying is the Clinton style campaigning of "Here's the policy where the math is pre-worked out and also should be relatively non offensive but does good things" isn't good enough, and we saw that because Clinton lost. I wouldn't extrapolate much from that. It didn't work for a whole bunch of reasons.
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Trabisnikof posted:This is the same company that previously let you racially red line your housing ads (in violation of federal law) Hasn't Facebook also refused a congress?/senate? request about russian related ad data citing privacy of its users? Or was that the bird website?
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PerniciousKnid posted:I think a few Republicans actually care about tradition, to a point. Oh oops, I may have been unclear: I was talking about the filibuster nitpicky stuff. You and I may have switched positions in the last year.  I am solidly in favor of doing as much as possible, and frankly am inclined to go for broke now. The Sanders proposition is heartening. I provisionally like it as a model. If the fuckers are going to burn anything we try to build, don't take the moron contingent into consideration at all.
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the sanders proposal is nice because it's realistic enough to get points for credibility and (since it'll never become law) that's all that people need to run on it
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Oh oops, I may have been unclear: I was talking about the filibuster nitpicky stuff. Well, I'm not saying I'm against Sanders' bill. Put it out there, and run on passing it. But doing stuff by legislative trickery or executive fiat just doesn't seem as appealing. Or maybe I'm just suffering from post-2016 depression and overcorrecting. 
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The Carter Center just announced that Jimmy Carter just narrowly missed his 27-year goal of eliminating the Guinea Worm this year. There were 9 recorded infections in the last 365 days. Down from 3.6 million when he started. Hopefully you'll get it next year Jimmy. 
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Carter Center just announced that Jimmy Carter just narrowly missed his 27-year goal of eliminating the Guinea Worm this year. There were 9 recorded infections in the last 365 days. Down from 3.6 million when he started. Jimmy is good people.
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In much sadder old man news, Larry King just announced that he has lung cancer and that chemo is not an option for him given his age. He had surgery and seems to have recovered, but the doctors said it would have killed him in 6 to 18 months and there is a strong chance it will come back. As long as he is healthy enough for surgery and they can catch it early again, he should be okay. But probably not many more surgeries left in him.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Carter Center just announced that Jimmy Carter just narrowly missed his 27-year goal of eliminating the Guinea Worm this year. There were 9 recorded infections in the last 365 days. Down from 3.6 million when he started. I thought that thing was dead! Damnit all. You make fun but...
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Carter Center just announced that Jimmy Carter just narrowly missed his 27-year goal of eliminating the Guinea Worm this year. There were 9 recorded infections in the last 365 days. Down from 3.6 million when he started. Much like Jimmy Carter, this loving rules
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Carter Center just announced that Jimmy Carter just narrowly missed his 27-year goal of eliminating the Guinea Worm this year. There were 9 recorded infections in the last 365 days. Down from 3.6 million when he started. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis quote:To extract the worm, a person must wrap the live worm around a piece of gauze or a stick. The process can be long, taking anywhere from hours to a week. Gently massaging the area around the blister can help loosen the worm. This is nearly the same treatment that is noted in the famous ancient Egyptian medical text, the Ebers papyrus from 1550 BC.
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Accretionist posted:Much like Jimmy Carter, this loving rules jimmy carter was a terrible president
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:jimmy carter was a terrible president Terrible for a Democrat is still better than any Republican in living memory
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:jimmy carter was a terrible president Nobody cares either what you think or about JC as president, he has done unqualified good for bazillions of people since his administration
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:jimmy carter was a terrible president Yeah, gently caress every good thing he ever did since then, gently caress him, I hope he rots in hell because he wasn't an extreme leftist when he was in office, gently caress him aaaaaaaaah what a loving piece of poo poo am I right my dude?
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empty whippet box posted:Yeah, gently caress every good thing he ever did since then, gently caress him, I hope he rots in hell because he wasn't an extreme leftist when he was in office, gently caress him aaaaaaaaah what a loving piece of poo poo am I right my dude? Same.
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empty whippet box posted:Yeah, gently caress every good thing he ever did since then, gently caress him, I hope he rots in hell because he wasn't an extreme leftist when he was in office, gently caress him aaaaaaaaah what a loving piece of poo poo am I right my dude? you need more whippets
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empty whippet box posted:Yeah, gently caress every good thing he ever did since then, gently caress him, I hope he rots in hell because he wasn't an extreme leftist when he was in office, gently caress him aaaaaaaaah what a loving piece of poo poo am I right my dude? On the other hand, he's been one of the greatest ex-presidents in history. It was more than worth having him in office for one bad term to get all the stuff afterward.
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If anyone wants to read a nice story: https://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/missoula/in-bannack-jaye-christensen-keeps-the-music-alive/Content?oid=4990557 Woman with injuries in electroshock therapy gets a visit from Jesus, telling her to play the piano and share with the world.
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PerniciousKnid posted:I think a few Republicans actually care about tradition, to a point. They'll be very concerned about tradition, you mean. I stand by the statement that Jimmy Carter was too decent a human to be an effective president.
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Spite posted:I stand by the statement that Jimmy Carter was too decent a human to be an effective president. Pulling a Cheney and running a private deathsquad could've gotten a lot of solar panels installed
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Terrible for a Democrat is still better than any Republican in living memory There are people alive who remember Eisenhower.  edit: and depending on your definition of "better", "memory", and maybe "Republican", same for Taft or even Teddy Roosevelt
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GreyjoyBastard posted:There are people alive who remember Eisenhower.  But that's kind of like saying Kennedy was a Clinton Democrat.
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RuanGacho posted:
until I did some cursory googling I did not realize that there were living Americans born in the Teddy Roosevelt administration
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GreyjoyBastard posted:until I did some cursory googling I did not realize that there were living Americans born in the Teddy Roosevelt administration Grandpa is old.
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Grognan posted:you need more whippets Um, this is always true. I named myself this because my posts are kind of like a box of spent whippets. If you're looking through an old bunch of them, don't get your hopes up, it's never a good one. I promise other people who do whippets will understand this joke.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:There are people alive who remember Eisenhower. im sure old persians who got tortured by savak also dislike eisenhower so, yes i mean they still remember eisenhower
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Jason Stockley, the cop who said "we're gonna kill this motherfucker," had his partner ram and disable the man's car, then ran up and shot him 5 times and probably planted a gun in the car, was just declared not guilty in St Louis. The National Guard is already there, but it would appear more are heading in soon. I still have friends that are in and there's some movement on the back end, because Greitens has a boner for activating the National Guard.
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I *REALLY* wish I could be surprised by these cases. Please?
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i hate that this is a question i have to ask but: which senseless killing was jason stockley involved in? edit: No Butt Stuff posted:Jason Stockley, the cop who said "we're gonna kill this motherfucker," had his partner ram and disable the man's car, then ran up and shot him 5 times and probably planted a gun in the car, was just declared not guilty in St Louis. ah for gently caress's sake.
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At least we have less of the trash posters that rush in to explain how this isn't bad because of some legal reasoning and everything about the system is totally Fine or the scum that basically wants to gloat another cop got away with murder.
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https://www.facebook.com/KMOVStLouis/videos/10159359106715603/ Live feed of protesters in an intersection. Nothing terrible yet.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Jason Stockley, the cop who said "we're gonna kill this motherfucker," had his partner ram and disable the man's car, then ran up and shot him 5 times and probably planted a gun in the car, was just declared not guilty in St Louis. Good time to mention that ACAB, and also blue lives don't matter.
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I like how reality is rapidly approaching my fanfic idea of "a bunch of cops start a goose step dancing musical number with the most hamfisted lyrics"
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