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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Okay GW, points for funny marketing... brb sculpting tiny moustaches and monocles onto my Poxwalkers.
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If I"m looking to have a primary army of mechanized Stormtroopers (Scions, whatever) and back it up with an all-Chad marine force, what kind of composition should I be looking for for the Marines? Which chapter tactics? Sorry for the entry-level question, I haven't played at all since like 5th edition and haven't played Marines since, I dunno, 2nd or pre-3.5 3rd?
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Sep 15, 2017 16:09
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Lord Windy posted:How do the custodes play? You can make a detachment of basically pure elites with a single HQ if you want. There's like 12 detachments with different flavors. I don't actually know how effective a pure Custodes army would be, but the actual squads are tough as hell and can do some pretty serious damage to anything they fight.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:09
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Schadenboner posted:If I"m looking to have a primary army of mechanized Stormtroopers (Scions, whatever) and back it up with an all-Chad marine force, what kind of composition should I be looking for for the Marines? Which chapter tactics? Do you want the marines to be mechanized too? If so you have to bring Repulsors, its the only vehicle Primaris can use.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:12
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JoshTheStampede posted:Do you want the marines to be mechanized too? If so you have to bring Repulsors, its the only vehicle Primaris can use. I'm not crazy about the Repulsor and I'm going to have enough tank building with the Guard (starting from scratch: my old stuff is long-ago lost, sold, or given away). I think I probably want lots of Inceptors to drop behind the enemy and punch face to cover my guard seizing objectives?
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Sep 15, 2017 16:20
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New Forge World Focus up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/15/forge-world-focus-agripinaa-sep15gw-homepage-post-4/ Agripinaa this time. Their gimmick is they think they're Tau so are better at Overwatch and have a lot of mecha porn so can recycle their robot units during the game. Weirdly enough no Warlord Trait previewed this time.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:26
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What is a Chad marine, is that some meme for primaris or something?
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Sep 15, 2017 16:27
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Lord Windy posted:A big problem I found was there were too many mans to build and care about when I was doing the Tau. I really want to focus on fewer models, what are the high point cost armies/low model count armies? I know Grey Knights would be one, as would be Imperial Knights. But are there others? Ironically, Tau. I've recently played games running about 20 models versus 200 models (guard) and done fine.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:27
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MasterSlowPoke posted:What is a Chad marine, is that some meme for primaris or something? Yup. Honestly surprised I haven't seen any 'Virgin Astartes, Chad Primaris' memes yet.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:28
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Schadenboner posted:If I"m looking to have a primary army of mechanized Stormtroopers (Scions, whatever) and back it up with an all-Chad marine force, what kind of composition should I be looking for for the Marines? Which chapter tactics? Mech Scions is a waste of time, their DS is way better. Ironically bringing their dedicated transport and using it on its own as a light tank. SteelMentor posted:Yup. Incels need to hurry up and take their self-hatred to its logical conclusion. E: 5 forge worlds shown and Mars is still objectively the best, gg GW
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Sep 15, 2017 16:34
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If you want to drop Marines in strategic locations and hassle your opponents, you can't go wrong with Raven Guard ambushes. If you want them to be reliable ranged fire support, Ultramarines and their ability to shoot after falling back comes in handy. If you want to fish people out of cover, Fists can come in handy. If you want to maximize reliability, Salamanders bring a lot of free rerolls. If you want to maximize longevity, Iron Fists bring lots of invulnerablr saves. Templars and Scars are more melee focused, so not the best for Primaris as of current.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:51
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SteelMentor posted:Honestly surprised I haven't seen any 'Virgin Astartes, Chad Primaris' memes yet. That's a good thing.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:55
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Corrode posted:Mech Scions is a waste of time, their DS is way better. Ironically bringing their dedicated transport and using it on its own as a light tank.  )?E: Re-read the Martian rule. I withdraw my previous comments. Yikes.
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Sep 15, 2017 16:58
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Agripinaa seems neat, but I already own Cawl because of splitting a triumverate box with friends so as I expand my ademch it'll just end up being mars.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:05
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Yeah, Cawl unfortunately just seems like far too much of a must-have, especially with his disgusting synergy with the new Mars dogma. I really hope they somehow just let him be faction neutral.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:10
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JoshTheStampede posted:The Scions box and the Scion command box are the same box. You can absolutely build 10 normal scions from the Start Collecting, though then you won't have an HQ. Doesn't the box come with a commissar? Can always use that as a lord commissar.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:11
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Genghis Cohen posted:Doesn't the box come with a commissar? Can always use that as a lord commissar. No, you can make one of the scions into a Tempestus Prime, but he does kinda look like a commisar by having a greatcoat draped over his shoulders.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:16
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JoshTheStampede posted:No, you can make one of the scions into a Tempestus Prime, but he does kinda look like a commisar by having a greatcoat draped over his shoulders. There is a Commissar in there. 10 dudes, Commissar, Taurox. Great box tbh.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:19
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JoshTheStampede posted:No, you can make one of the scions into a Tempestus Prime, but he does kinda look like a commisar by having a greatcoat draped over his shoulders. Just take the commissar and give him a bigger hat, gold stuff on his uniform rather than silver, and call him a Lord? E: Beat.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:23
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Corrode posted:There is a Commissar in there. 10 dudes, Commissar, Taurox. Great box tbh. Oh, sorry, I thought he meant the Scions box, not the Start Colkecting box.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:25
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I just finished building a Scions force, the models are kinda pain in the asses to build. Make all of your special weapons first, then the lasguns. I can't stress that enough. I wanted to convert a couple extra plasma guns so that they all aren't just holding it in one hand and accidentally used the wrong arms on a lasgun guy.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:31
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Genghis Cohen posted:Doesn't the box come with a commissar? Can always use that as a lord commissar. The Start Collecting comes with a Commissar. Edit are there good places for Ham compatable lady heads in addition to Victoria? mango sentinel fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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Sep 15, 2017 17:34
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Corrode posted:There is a Commissar in there. 10 dudes, Commissar, Taurox. Great box tbh. It kills me that that box came out less than a year after I bought everything separately to make a Ground Assault Formation. Would have definitely saved me a few bucks, and I'd have a bunch of Commissars as conversion fodder. MasterSlowPoke posted:I just finished building a Scions force, the models are kinda pain in the asses to build. Make all of your special weapons first, then the lasguns. I can't stress that enough. I wanted to convert a couple extra plasma guns so that they all aren't just holding it in one hand and accidentally used the wrong arms on a lasgun guy. IIRC the arms have letters on the inside joint to help match them up. The plasma gun arms being so distinctive is a pain in the butt though. While nobody will notice your dozen flamers/meltas all in the same pose, everyone will notice that half your dudes are pointing.
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Sep 15, 2017 17:37
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mango sentinel posted:The Start Collecting comes with a Commissar. Statuesque Miniatures. Go for the heroic scale heads.
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Sep 15, 2017 18:11
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Snidesworth posted:Statuesque Miniatures. Go for the heroic scale heads. Heroic scale narrow fits slimmer models (like Sisters of Silence) better.
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Sep 15, 2017 18:17
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Schadenboner posted:If I"m looking to have a primary army of mechanized Stormtroopers (Scions, whatever) and back it up with an all-Chad marine force, what kind of composition should I be looking for for the Marines? Which chapter tactics? If you're not using Repulsors to get your Primaris around, then you probably want to play Raven Guard so you can use the Chapter Stealth tactic to get your infantry where you need it at the start of every game. That way you don't have to just take Inceptors, you can take whatever you like. The fact that you'll also get the -1 to be shot at beyond 12" is just gravy at that point.
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Sep 15, 2017 18:20
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Z the IVth posted:Heroic scale narrow fits slimmer models (like Sisters of Silence) better. I'm looking at replacing Tempestus/Commissar heads. Maybe
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OptimusWang posted:This is an awesome idea - I wonder if somebody 3D prints them on Shapeways or something. The current idea is for black/white colors, so Sergeants and higher get full white helmets and everybody lower than that gets white facemask but otherwise black helmets. Floppychop posted:Not full helmet, but if you decide to settle with just the facemask Reaver heads I have 10 spare. I've got those too, I just need a full helmet in order to... Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Try casting them?
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Sep 15, 2017 18:38
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Schadenboner posted:I'm not crazy about the Repulsor and I'm going to have enough tank building with the Guard (starting from scratch: my old stuff is long-ago lost, sold, or given away). Having played a bit with my Repulsor they're really solid. Do you just not like the model?
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Sep 15, 2017 18:42
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jng2058 posted:If you're not using Repulsors to get your Primaris around, then you probably want to play Raven Guard so you can use the Chapter Stealth tactic to get your infantry where you need it at the start of every game. That way you don't have to just take Inceptors, you can take whatever you like. Raptors are Raven successors, and guardish in their colors, and the fewer paint schemes I have to do the faster it can go. Good advice, thank you! Pendent posted:Having played a bit with my Repulsor they're really solid. Do you just not like the model? It just looks too top-heavy, and I'm saying that as someone with an abnormal attraction to the Leman Russ (so it's not like I dislike silly design on principle or something) the Repulsor is just a bridge too far for me.  E: Also, I really don't like that 3 up-armored Ogryns can ride in a Taurox but a couple of Chads can't fit into a Land Raider. Even by GW's standards a transparent and fluff-unjustified money grab. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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mango sentinel posted:I'm looking at replacing Tempestus/Commissar heads. Maybe Still waiting to get my hands on Neave Blacktalon model from the latest AoS box just to see how well that unhelmeted head looks on one of the Primaris Lieutenants I recently picked up. It oddly enough hasn't showed up on a Bitz site I've started using recently but I figure it's a question of time since they stock AoS as well.
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Schadenboner posted:Raptors are Raven successors, and guardish in their colors, and the fewer paint schemes I have to do the faster it can go. I thought that too, and realized its because I like the boxy land raider hull, but putting a turret on it and then a dude with a pintle on THAT makes it look like a dumb pyramid. Leave the guy off and move the pintle weapon somewhere else and it looks boss.
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Beerdeer posted:Last night I played 100pl Ultramarines against Necrons. The game was pretty tight the whole time, and fairly bloody. I only won because of three objectives getting flipped in turn 5 that I was already sitting on. Not to get all "kids today don't know how to lose" but some people cannot understand acceptable losses and see every model removed as an inexorable step towards total defeat. It takes a while to understand that losing a unit of mooks is fine if it tied up that elite unit for three turns. It may be worth exploring that concept with your opponent if you are feeling charitable. And getting hosed by dice or cards sucks, but many times that's just an instance of only seeing the crappy results and ignoring the good ones. (I forget the term for that).
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Mars might as well just be your entire army gaining +1 armor from cover. I feel like people overstate how good non-shroudpsalm canticles are, especially for a random table.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Mars might as well just be your entire army gaining +1 armor from cover. Now that two rolls and Cawl guarantees you a Shroud basically every turn, the race for second place can begin.
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470 points for Mortarion, apparently, but mostly I'm posting this because I love that the codex has both "Hideous mutations" and "Horrifying mutations".
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FromTheShire posted:This is from a little bit ago, but what's your recipe for that yellow? I'm aiming for something similar for my mining/construction worker themed GSC vehicles. This particular yellow is taken directly from a buypainted youtube tutorial. It is entirely airbrushed and consists of vallejo air paints in the following order. Grey surface primer Gold yellow Burnt umber (in the recesses/dark areas) White (in the raised areas/highlights) Medium yellow over the whole thing to tie it together Then a coat of varnish, a pinwash with burnt umber oils thinned with white spirits and then varnished again to seal. Hope that helps.
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mango sentinel posted:The Start Collecting comes with a Commissar. Statuesque are amazing. For scions I'd do the normal heroic scale heads. I have a beret one on a prime which looks pretty good. Just keep in mind that none of the ones with a bun or anything really fit in the Scion armor. They fit fine on cadian bodies though.
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ANAmal.net posted:470 points for Mortarion, apparently, but mostly I'm posting this because I love that the codex has both "Hideous mutations" and "Horrifying mutations". I feel that Morty being a solid 25% of your list in a 2000 pt game is appropriate for a Demon Primarch.
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ANAmal.net posted:470 points for Mortarion, apparently, but mostly I'm posting this because I love that the codex has both "Hideous mutations" and "Horrifying mutations". I have to say they're doing interesting things with this release, I was impressed by the sheer number of new characters. They've been quite ruthless is pruning out older 'conventional' CSM options from the list though. I think my Nurgle-playing mate will be a bit peeved that to get the full/real benefits of his chosen specialty, he will need to stop using his vindicators, heldrakes, bikes and raptors!
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