Canemacar posted:

Hey guys. Remember when the "impersonate a cop" mini game in GTA was satire?

BigDave posted:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...bc39191de0.html

Talks about the AK, but doesn't say if it was fired or not.

Also this is what kind of AK it was: leeched image

hobbesmaster posted:

Closer than you might have think. The judge notes before discussing he officer's testimony that he is a West Point graduate and was injured in Iraq.

Epiphyte posted:

I refuse to believe that man has never come across a pair of mournfal tits

Godholio posted:

Kawasaki Nun posted:

If the cop used to be an army officer then isn't it a safe assumption that everything he put in his report is a lie?

Dead Reckoning posted:

The judge's order spells out a lot of it, but none of the witnesses (including the non-police ones) supported the prosecution's version of events, the prosecution never managed to prove he planted the drop gun, and the defense did a good job of creating reasonable doubt.

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

I don't think self defense should clear you of murder when you put yourself in harms way needlessly

I am not the justice system.

Edited for clarity.

Mr. Nice! posted:

I went ahead and uploaded the pic to imgur because it's not going to pull up for most SA posters when it's hotlinked.

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

I don't think self defense should clear you of murder when you put yourself in harms way needlessly

I am not the justice system.

M_Gargantua posted:

What were the prosecutors prosecuting on if the plaintiff was dead and their version of events differered from the video and witnesses. Like apparently what the witnesses said was still bad, but not "definitely planted the gun" reasonable doubt.

Dead Reckoning posted:

Thing is, it is quite literally the job of the police to inject themselves into dangerous situations in order to serve the interests of the state.

BigDave posted:

Just to clarify: in left hand, Beretta 92. In right hand, AK SBR w/100 round drum mag. Being fired at the same time.

And somebody looked at this, presumably someone with a legal background, and said 'yep, no problem here!'.

BadOptics posted:

I'm sure Dead Reckoning will be able to illuminate us on why this is good and just.

Dead Reckoning posted:

Stockley's flagrant breaking of department rules about duty weapons isn't material to whether or not his killing of Smith was both premeditated an unlawful, the thing he was being charged with?

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

i think him saying on camera he was going to kill him before killing him gives the indication of intent

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

i think him saying on camera he was going to kill him before killing him gives the indication of intent

Dead Reckoning posted:

That's not what BadOptics and BigDave were talking about.

Proud Christian Mom posted:

"Feared for my life"

Congrats you have the magic get out of jail free card if you have a badge or you're some neighborhood watch guy who shoots a black kid

bird food bathtub posted:

That is....wow. I have not heard about that cop story until today and holy poo poo balls if the place erupts into riots it sounds totally justified to me. When does it get to the point where those communities tell the police to just stay the gently caress out, they feel safer without them around? Sure as poo poo looks like it's heading that direction.

Dead Reckoning posted:

Thing is, it is quite literally the job of the police to inject themselves into dangerous situations in order to serve the interests of the state.

mlmp08 posted:

Cops should just be trained to scream "I'm so scared for my life!" before every single encounter.

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

I think cops should be embedded with communities, particularly higher risk communities like inner cities.

Instead of cops only showing up when a body drops in Chicago, for example, those kids should know cops by name and be able to feel like they are friends with them. That might go a long way to helping alleviate a lot of inner city violence AND eliminating distrust between people and the police.

I'm probably talking crazy talk and describing some utopia where funding exists and cops aren't as scared of young black men in the inner cities as much as young black men in the inner cities are scared of cops. But hey a guy can dream.

Kawasaki Nun posted:

When a sheepdog sleeps in the field it starts to think its just another sheep

NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

I think cops should be embedded with communities, particularly higher risk communities like inner cities.

Instead of cops only showing up when a body drops in Chicago, for example, those kids should know cops by name and be able to feel like they are friends with them. That might go a long way to helping alleviate a lot of inner city violence AND eliminating distrust between people and the police.

I'm probably talking crazy talk and describing some utopia where funding exists and cops aren't as scared of young black men in the inner cities as much as young black men in the inner cities are scared of cops. But hey a guy can dream.

quote:

[A]t Buffalo’s 2006 Juneteenth festival, a young man fired toward a crowd with a machine pistol. Violence was a recurring problem at Buffalo Juneteenth, where local gang members went to intimidate their enemies. Nineteen-year-old Pierre Martin heard gunfire that afternoon and believed his friends were in danger. He returned fire with a MAC-10, the bullets escaping so quickly that he lost count of the shots. Miraculously, no one was struck. But the police went after him, and Pierre Martin began to run.

Lt. Steve Nichols chased him out of the park and onto a side street, where he disappeared behind a house. Someone on a front porch silently pointed Nichols in the right direction. I have to shoot this kid, Nichols remembers thinking. He came around the corner, gun drawn, and saw Martin, hands on knees, catching his breath. Martin would say he’d already thrown away the gun, but Nichols would recall seeing it at his feet, barrel still smoking.

Nichols did not shoot. He charged, knocking Martin down and applying handcuffs. Martin took a plea deal and spent less than two years in prison. He left the gang, missed out on a bank robbery and entered peaceful civilian life. And that day became a turning point in Buffalo history.

City leaders made a plan to save Juneteenth: They asked several groups of anti-violence activists to join forces in a new organization called the Buffalo Peacemakers. The Peacemakers turned out at the next Juneteenth, helping police identify and peacefully remove nearly 80 gang members. It worked so well that Mayor Byron Brown expanded the Peacemakers' role and eventually found money to pay them modest stipends. Today they serve as a kind of civilian buffer between the police and the community, a benevolent presence that helps each group see the other in a better light. Nichols is now the captain in charge of community policing, and a 6-foot-7 grandfather named Murray “Six” Holman leads the Peacemakers. Nichols recently said to Holman, “I talk to you probably more than I talk to my wife.”

Make no mistake: Buffalo has a history of police misconduct just like any other city. Local news outlets have reported extensively on police scandals large and small. One of the Peacemakers, Willie Green, remembers the time in 1997 when an officer wrote him a speeding ticket. Green called him a liar in court. When they met again on the street, according to Green, “He choked me and said, ‘If you see me, you run.’” In 2014, an officer was caught on smartphone video punching a handcuffed suspect. Public defender Rebecca Town said she is not convinced officers always have probable cause when they stop and question young men on the street. One of those young men, Brandon Grazes, 23, said he was recently walking with a bag of groceries in one hand and an icicle in the other. He was joking around with a friend, pretending to have a cane, but he says an officer told him to throw it on the ground because it could be a weapon.

“Buffalo police know how to ruin a mood,” he said.

The Peacemakers and other anti-violence activists work hard to change that perception. This matters for several reasons. Young people who don’t hate or distrust the police are less likely to draw guns on the police, and thereby less likely to get shot by the police. Arlee Daniels Jr., former leader of the Manhattan Lovers street gang, teaches young men to show their hands, give their names, show ID. He tells them, “Police are not there to hurt you.” Peacemaker George Johnson says some children in Buffalo’s poor neighborhoods have never seen Lake Erie, even though it’s four or five miles away. He takes them on fishing trips and brings police officers along. If it’s easy to hate the uniform, it’s harder to hate the person who helped you reel in your first bass.

Grognan posted:

Hot take: the judge and prosecution were sandbagging because persecuting cops like they were citizens happens like never.

They did the paperwork for the killing but that doesn't justify it.