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AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

Hav posted:

Tada. Aurora 7.1 install. Now I just have to figure out how to play it.

grognard.txt

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Hav posted:

Tada. Aurora 7.1 install. Now I just have to figure out how to play it.
:rip:

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


I've been watching these videos (playlist) to learn about the game and maybe how to play it in the future. Its felt complex but manageable... until he got to combat ship design, that poo poo just seems intimidating. :stare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPvi15w6T9U

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
A group of guys I know did a cool LP where they each roleplayed a governor or admiral or captain or whatever while someone who knew the game drove. It let people who didn't know the mechanics still do what they wanted and have them a friendly and easy way to learn as he explained how he did what they asked.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Galaga Galaxian posted:

I've been watching these videos (playlist) to learn about the game and maybe how to play it in the future. Its felt complex but manageable... until he got to combat ship design, that poo poo just seems intimidating. :stare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPvi15w6T9U

This guy's better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcWln8Ne1RA

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


I watched the first few of quills, his didn't seem as informative, though maybe they were a bit more entertaining.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
read bgregmans (sp?) aurora LP
its actually p good science fiction even without the aurora factor

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
There are a few good grog bargains over at bundlestars at the moment

Battle Academy 1 + 2 plus expansions for $5

Most of the Panzer Corps games (I think just missing Soviet Corps) for various tiers up to $15

You can also pick up Hegemony: Rome for $1

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
For anyone that owns it, what is the historical background of the Drang Nach Osten scenario in Revolution Under Siege, and how Gay Black Hitler are the events?

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Yeah I grabbed the Panzer Corp stuff. It's a fun game.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Hav posted:

Some filthy communists and millenials like to use the OSX platform for some reason.

Step 1 - Wineskin

Tada. Aurora 7.1 install. Now I just have to figure out how to play it.

Oh man, that's a lifesaver. I've got a weeklong conference coming up and only a mac to accompany me. Thanks Hav!

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

algebra testes posted:

Yeah I grabbed the Panzer Corp stuff. It's a fun game.

gently caress Stalingrad :argh:

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Yooper posted:

Oh man, that's a lifesaver. I've got a weeklong conference coming up and only a mac to accompany me. Thanks Hav!

Not quite out of the woods, yet. There's a missing MSSTDFMT.DLL that crops up on the system view, and I'm trying to figure out the regsvr bits.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

quote:

gently caress Stalingrad :argh:

- Adolf Hitler, November 1942

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Fun Shoe
Panzer Corps is so loving good and while it may not be a hardcore grog game for $15 it's gonna take me months if not a year to play through all of these campaigns. Bargain of the month.

Ceebees
Nov 2, 2011

I'm intentionally being as verbose as possible in negotiations for my own amusement.

Hav posted:

Not quite out of the woods, yet. There's a missing MSSTDFMT.DLL that crops up on the system view, and I'm trying to figure out the regsvr bits.

It's easier just to install (and then promptly uninstall) a tiny utility program that includes it.

http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/topic,1715.msg21036.html#msg21036

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Hav posted:

Not quite out of the woods, yet. There's a missing MSSTDFMT.DLL that crops up on the system view, and I'm trying to figure out the regsvr bits.

I used the Aurora all-in-one installer and ignored your step 3 and so far everything seems to function fine.

http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=5663.0

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Kibbles n Shits posted:

Panzer Corps is so loving good and while it may not be a hardcore grog game for $15 it's gonna take me months if not a year to play through all of these campaigns. Bargain of the month.

Seriously, Panzer Corps + All DLC is fantastic, play it love it live it

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Can anyone sell me on Battle Academy? Is it just babbys first Combat Mission basically?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Someone sell me on Panzer Corps.

bgreman
Oct 8, 2005

ASK ME ABOUT STICKING WITH A YEARS-LONG LETS PLAY OF THE MOST COMPLICATED SPACE SIMULATION GAME INVENTED, PLAYING BOTH SIDES, AND SPENDING HOURS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENSURE INTERNET STRANGERS ENJOY THEMSELVES

Baloogan posted:

read bgregmans (sp?) aurora LP
its actually p good science fiction even without the aurora factor

Just a reminder that my LP (currently on hiatus due to life) is from two major versions before the current version, so there's a lot of things I don't cover, and one area (engines) that's changed majorly and another (crew endurance) that's entirely new.

Those automatons are still awaiting rescue ;_;

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Fun Shoe

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Someone sell me on Panzer Corps.

It's easy to play but challenging to master and for the current price you get a ridiculous number of campaigns (with both historical and "what-if" scenarios) to play through in multiple theaters. It has enough depth to reward smart planning and good tactics but not so much depth that you can't sit down and play through a few missions in an evening without having to bust out wikipedia, spreadsheets, and a calculator. It's Panzer General turned up to 11. It's what Unity of Command aspires to be. Oh and it looks great too, and not just by grog standards.

Kibbles n Shits fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Sep 16, 2017

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


bgreman posted:

Just a reminder that my LP (currently on hiatus due to life) is from two major versions before the current version, so there's a lot of things I don't cover, and one area (engines) that's changed majorly and another (crew endurance) that's entirely new.

Those automatons are still awaiting rescue ;_;

I just dove in and once I got a handle on the interface it's fairly straightforward. But it's like an onion now, every layer I understand reveals another deeper layer.

My first "Aurora" moment happened a few nights ago. The civilians started a mining colony on an asteroid so I kindly sent a ship full of colonists. Except the colony had zero underground infrastructure. To make that worse I hadn't researched that yet. Then on the way back the colony ship ran out of fuel. I have no tankers designed or built yet. So now the garrison is trying to keep 30,000 people from rioting on a structure that can handle 0. I'm not sure if they're all stuck in space suits or in empty fuel tanks or what the deal is.

Some things seem to automate well, like surveying. But can you do it with mineral transfers and such?

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
yes, but also mass drivers

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
CMCs are automated I think

Chump Farts
May 9, 2009

There is no Coordinator but Narduzzi, and Shilique is his Prophet.

Class Warcraft posted:

Can anyone sell me on Battle Academy? Is it just babbys first Combat Mission basically?

Babby's first Steel Panthers is more apt.

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



For anyone who plays Ultimate General: Civil War, how do you tend to organize your divisions once you unlock all 6 brigades? Playing as the Union, I have been running most divisions as 5 infantry, 1 artillery. Sometimes I swap out one infantry for a cavalry brigade. I'm thinking of switching to a 4 infantry, 2 artillery setup, but I can't find much good information online about whether this would be a good idea or not. Anyone have experience here?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Someone sell me on Panzer Corps.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3746015

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


Bold Robot posted:

For anyone who plays Ultimate General: Civil War, how do you tend to organize your divisions once you unlock all 6 brigades? Playing as the Union, I have been running most divisions as 5 infantry, 1 artillery. Sometimes I swap out one infantry for a cavalry brigade. I'm thinking of switching to a 4 infantry, 2 artillery setup, but I can't find much good information online about whether this would be a good idea or not. Anyone have experience here?

I've only gotten to Chancellorsville in the Union campaign, and have only unlocked 5 brigades. I've got half my divisions at 3 infantry 2 artillery, a quarter at 4 infantry 1 artillery, and a quarter at 3 infantry 1 cavalry 1 artillery. Artillery is very strong, especially at close range, and I regularly see artillery units with 1000+ kills and very few losses. If you're having trouble keeping your infantry brigades topped off, I'd definitely recommend more artillery.

I rarely find myself wishing for more infantry. Infantry takes up a lot of space, so I either have a defensive front too long or an offensive front too narrow to keep everyone engaged. Artillery doesn't need to worry about units blocking their line of fire, so that's never the issue with them.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Yooper posted:

I just dove in and once I got a handle on the interface it's fairly straightforward. But it's like an onion now, every layer I understand reveals another deeper layer.

My first "Aurora" moment happened a few nights ago. The civilians started a mining colony on an asteroid so I kindly sent a ship full of colonists. Except the colony had zero underground infrastructure. To make that worse I hadn't researched that yet. Then on the way back the colony ship ran out of fuel. I have no tankers designed or built yet. So now the garrison is trying to keep 30,000 people from rioting on a structure that can handle 0. I'm not sure if they're all stuck in space suits or in empty fuel tanks or what the deal is.

Some things seem to automate well, like surveying. But can you do it with mineral transfers and such?

For CMC's open up the summary page for the colony and go to the civilian / ind status tab you can decide whether to buy the minerals or tax them. For your mining outposts just slap down a mass driver pointed at Earth.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Just make sure there is also a mass driver on Earth to catch mineral packets...

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



dublish posted:

I've only gotten to Chancellorsville in the Union campaign, and have only unlocked 5 brigades. I've got half my divisions at 3 infantry 2 artillery, a quarter at 4 infantry 1 artillery, and a quarter at 3 infantry 1 cavalry 1 artillery. Artillery is very strong, especially at close range, and I regularly see artillery units with 1000+ kills and very few losses. If you're having trouble keeping your infantry brigades topped off, I'd definitely recommend more artillery.

I rarely find myself wishing for more infantry. Infantry takes up a lot of space, so I either have a defensive front too long or an offensive front too narrow to keep everyone engaged. Artillery doesn't need to worry about units blocking their line of fire, so that's never the issue with them.

Makes sense, thanks. I'm not having trouble reinforcing my infantry, but I keep having the problem you describe with too many infantry for a given front. I'll try mixing in more artillery.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Just make sure there is also a mass driver on Earth to catch mineral packets...

lol
maybe a backup too

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Fun Shoe

Informative LPs like yours are literary crack to me, and yours is by far the most informative LP I've seen on this game. Anyone who buys Panzer Corps read this and git gud

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

bought that panzer corps bundle. forgot I already had the base game from another bundle ages ago so here's a key for the base game if anyone wants it

edit: taken

cool new Metroid game fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 18, 2017

Mandatory Assembly
May 25, 2008

it's time to get juche
Lipstick Apathy

Kibbles n Shits posted:

It's what Unity of Command aspires to be.

This is the point where the needle skips on the record and everyone in the bar turns to look at you. Panzer Corps and Unity of Command are radically different games. UoC is about logistics and taking objectives on time to please your higher-ups. It's about making sacrifices and tough choices to take Stalino on schedule. It completely abstracts away most of the minute differences in equipment that Panzer Corps salivates over.

Panzer Corps is pure fantasy panzer porn where you spend prestige to upgrade your Panzer IIIH divisions to the Panzer IIIJ and pretend that there's some practical difference between them at the strategic level. Panzer Corps is much lighter weight (and inferior) wargame.

Mandatory Assembly fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Sep 16, 2017

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.

Mandatory Assembly posted:

Panzer Corps is much lighter weight (and inferior) wargame.

quote:

This is the point where the needle skips on the record and everyone in the bar turns to look at you

Obfuscation
Jan 1, 2008
Good luck to you, I know you believe in hell
Panzer General was a mistake

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Fun Shoe
[Genre] General games and Panzer Corps are amazing and beautiful in their simplicity and I'm sorry for the people who cannot see the light.

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Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Fun Shoe

Mandatory Assembly posted:

This is the point where the needle skips on the record and everyone in the bar turns to look at you. Panzer Corps and Unity of Command are radically different games. UoC is about logistics and taking objectives on time to please your higher-ups. It's about making sacrifices and tough choices to take Stalino on schedule. It completely abstracts away most of the minute differences in equipment that Panzer Corps salivates over.

Panzer Corps is pure fantasy panzer porn where you spend prestige to upgrade your Panzer IIIH divisions to the Panzer IIIJ and pretend that there's some practical difference between them at the strategic level. Panzer Corps is much lighter weight (and inferior) wargame.

The PzIIIJ is an incremental upgrade over the H (or whatever, just an example. There is a specific unit tree that includes incremental upgrades). You do this because it strengthens your persistent army through the scenarios. There is a bigger difference between a PzIII and a PzIV or Tiger or Stug and it does matter from a gameplay standpoint. Also if you don't think taking objectives on time is a thing in Panzer Corps I invite you to win a decisive victory in the Norway scenario.

Both games are pretty great though but I have a huge soft spot for the *General games because I played the crap out of them on my old P233 back in like middle school

edited out typos

Kibbles n Shits fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Sep 17, 2017

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