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Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



SirSamVimes posted:

Has lots of mobility, is assassin, therefore is genji?

We're all Genjis now.

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SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Dire Human posted:

It's not a 1-to-1 comparison, it was just the first mobile Assassin I thought of. I'm just really jonesing for a new lane-clearing Specialist to sink my teeth into and it sucks that it's not also my favorite Overwatch character who seems perfect for the job.

I feel like he's going to be like a more mobile Kael'thas. Solid range, AoE damage, area denial, CC, etc.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Exactly what I was about to say. Assassin/spec is a loose distinction that doesn't mean "is bad at split pushing"

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

I couldn't be more rock hard for those new skins coming out.

I really need to go to a doctor...

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor
Just looked at Reddit and quite a few people are bashing the influx of Overwatch heroes. It's sad cause Ana and Junkrat are some of the coolest characters, but I guess people really like that nostalgia.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.





Unranked Draft, Haunted Mines win in 5:36. They ignored us pushing all the way through top keep before the mines opened, then we wiped them in the mines and won.

Dire Human
Feb 1, 2013

AH-HA! That's right...

Who's laughing now?

Who's laughing now?



jimmydalad posted:

Just looked at Reddit and quite a few people are bashing the influx of Overwatch heroes. It's sad cause Ana and Junkrat are some of the coolest characters, but I guess people really like that nostalgia.

Diablo and Starcraft DO need some fleshing out compared to Warcraft, but ffs people

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

What I'm disappointed in is the amount of heroes who are clean shaven, like come the gently caress off. Bring on the heroes who have more beard than anything else. This applies for women as well.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Uther, Leoric (vrykul), Falstad, Muradin, Malfurion, Kharazim, Raynor, Greymane, Xul, Samuro, Stukov, Gall, Medivh, ETC, Chen, Thrall, Gul'dan...

This game has p. good beard representation imo.

Edit: Olaf and Erik too. If we include moustaches, we can add Cho and Baelog.

Aaod
May 29, 2004
Does Abathur hat count as a reverse beard?

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Aaod posted:

Does Abathur hat count as a reverse beard?

WTB new Abathur skin which bestows beards upon players

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006

Mind over Matter posted:



Unranked Draft, Haunted Mines win in 5:36. They ignored us pushing all the way through top keep before the mines opened, then we wiped them in the mines and won.

This is well and proper because Mines is a garbage map, but I think you would grow as a person if you stopped and thought about what it would feel like to be on the other side of this game. My wife and I do this whenever we shitstomp or get shitstomped. It keeps us grounded.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

jimmydalad posted:

Just looked at Reddit and quite a few people are bashing the influx of Overwatch heroes. It's sad cause Ana and Junkrat are some of the coolest characters, but I guess people really like that nostalgia.

People that complain about that are stupid, exactly like the people that complain about too much Warcraft. That's the facts jacks

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

I don't think anywhere near as many people would groan at new OW characters if basically all of them hadn't been really frustrating so far. No continued resource costs other than Zarya in a roundabout way, crazy mobility in like the only game of the genre where you can't make decisions to change up your movespeed without it coming from a character, attacking while moving without having to bother with dumb stutter stepping, not limited to them obviously but on release their balance or lack thereof making the previous points even more obnoxious. As soon as people kept picking Tassadar around them, Tracer got awful to see plus the first taste of them getting dumb mobility. There was and is so much poo poo to Genji it hardly needs expanding upon. Zarya snapped from bad to ridiculous and then got evened out. D.va's dumb and only exists to ult and be annoying/lose the match most of the time. Lucio got to be a plague in two games for a while.

Now even if I like him, it sounds like Junkrat is another assassin with more goofy mobility while who knows what Ana's going to do.

Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Sep 16, 2017

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


I mean to be fair, Junkrat's mobility is probably going to be fiddlier seeing as it's based around his concussion mine.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



Mr. Bad Guy posted:

This is well and proper because Mines is a garbage map, but I think you would grow as a person if you stopped and thought about what it would feel like to be on the other side of this game. My wife and I do this whenever we shitstomp or get shitstomped. It keeps us grounded.

I don't know if it grew me as a person, but I actually did do this. I don't know how much I can really reflect on it beyond understand the fact that it must have been pretty miserable, but I did do that much. I don't claim that the opponents there were fools or bad people, just that they made the mistake of ignoring a 5-push with a Sylvanas. I've certainly made such mistakes too, it can happen to us all.

I try to keep in mind that for every game I lose, there are people on the other side who won. And vice versa.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

jimmydalad posted:

Just looked at Reddit and quite a few people are bashing the influx of Overwatch heroes. It's sad cause Ana and Junkrat are some of the coolest characters, but I guess people really like that nostalgia.

1) Overwatch seems like the only Blizzard game (in my gaming crew) that people either love or hate. It's very polarizing and I can't really put my finger on why. I got bored of it fast but I don't mind having many more of those characters. I would really like a Mei or Sombra.

2) OW characters in HOTS I think are pretty fairly hated because of their overloaded kits especially how mobile they are. Others have exhaustively made this point though.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

If we're gonna keep getting them, just give me Mercy so we can finally take old Morales out behind the shed.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

SirSamVimes posted:

WTB new Abathur skin which bestows beards upon players

Christmas Abathur skin. Beards AND santa hats.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Yardbomb posted:

If we're gonna keep getting them, just give me Mercy so we can finally take old Morales out behind the shed.

I'd rather they make decent heroes, rather than Morales and Morales 2. Mercy is already a terrible enough blight on Overwatch.

Fire anyone who made Mercy and anyone who likes Mercy into the sun, is my point here.

chumbler fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Sep 16, 2017

Dire Human
Feb 1, 2013

AH-HA! That's right...

Who's laughing now?

Who's laughing now?



If they're looking for a lower-speed Overwatch character to add then Ana is definitely one of them; it was actually a surprise at her original reveal that she was a sniper without a mobility option. Other good options would be Mei, Mccree, or Symmetra (!).

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

chumbler posted:

I'd rather they make decent heroes, rather than Morales and Morales 2. Mercy is already a terrible enough blight on Overwatch.

Fire anyone who made Mercy and anyone who likes Mercy into the sun, is my point here.

Are you referring to old "wait for everybody to die and rez them" Mercy or new "anime battlefield nurse" Mercy?

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Libertine posted:

1) Overwatch seems like the only Blizzard game (in my gaming crew) that people either love or hate. It's very polarizing and I can't really put my finger on why.

Because it's extremely popular and extremely popular things don't tend to attract a lot of middle ground opinions.

Toady
Jan 12, 2009

Power Bottom posted:

That's some hot garbage right there. If you're going to have a hero like the Lost Vikings, at least have the balls to go full tilt on their unique mechanics.

The mech is clearly meant to be powerful enough to justify two players piloting it, so it seems like it would be too much to allow TLV's team to keep four heroes outside the mech on top of a third viking soaking elsewhere.

Toady
Jan 12, 2009

Kai Tave posted:

Because it's extremely popular and extremely popular things don't tend to attract a lot of middle ground opinions.

Toxicity is a factor. Practically all I hear about Overwatch anymore is how awful other players are to each other. That recent video of Kaplan pleading with the community to stop is sad.

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

Dire Human posted:

If they're looking for a lower-speed Overwatch character to add then Ana is definitely one of them; it was actually a surprise at her original reveal that she was a sniper without a mobility option. Other good options would be Mei, Mccree, or Symmetra (!).

Mei could use her ice wall to walk over walls.

McCree should be in this game just so he can finally ride a drat horse.

MinionOfCthulhu
Oct 28, 2005

I got this title for free due to my proximity to an idiot who wanted to save $5 on an avatar by having someone else spend $9.95 instead.

jimmydalad posted:

Just looked at Reddit and quite a few people are bashing the influx of Overwatch heroes. It's sad cause Ana and Junkrat are some of the coolest characters, but I guess people really like that nostalgia.

I won't be happy until we get Blackthorn and someone from Rock N Roll Racing, I'm afraid.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

Otherkinsey Scale posted:

Mei could use her ice wall to walk over walls.

McCree should be in this game just so he can finally ride a drat horse.

When he does, it should look like he has no idea how it works.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



I feel like a battered domestic partner, because I'm irrationally happy at this most basic of playerbase policing:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20759046408

Seebach
Jul 14, 2012

Now to correlate that data with how many regularly played Abathur

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
"These actions were targeted at players whose in-game performance data, combined with high report volume, clearly shows a consistent lack of contribution to the majority of their matches"

So, afk less than 40% of your matches and you're probably safe.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
I'm surprised there hasn't been a Soldier:76 skin for Raynor yet.

Seebach
Jul 14, 2012

Talking about mobility reminds me that is why the game feels painful sometimes.

Genji for instance if he is caught out has 2 escape mechanics and a short immunity to keep him from dying. One of the escape mechanics even resets if the target dies during use or within a window.

It's bad character design to give a moba character so many ways to stay in the game and have the damage he has.

The same feels bad for Chromie and her hearth talent. If you don't have burst she gets away and can come back relatively quick to poke and knock out more people.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
I finally had couple really enjoyable games of new Lt. Morales last night. It involved me playing with my friend who played Raynor all night and just stim-packing him on cooldown. One or the other of us MVP'd every match.

The Level 20 Hyperactivity halving the CD of Stim Pack and doubling the move speed seems just really strong if you have anyone competent who can play an auto-attacker. Hitting someone with that is just absurd.

This is what I did:
https://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/lt-morales#osev

I don't really have any strong opinions about the 13/16 talents, flexed those around each match depending on what seemed to fit the situation.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Seebach posted:

The same feels bad for Chromie and her hearth talent. If you don't have burst she gets away and can come back relatively quick to poke and knock out more people.

Chromie's Bye Bye is just a talent, first of all - she doesn't have it by default and she's giving up other options to get access to it. Secondly, using it removes her from the fight. Genji, by comparison, has two movement skills and Protection as core facets of his design, all of which can be used to get in and out of fights as needed.

So no, there's not really much comparing to be done here.

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED

Kurieg posted:

I'm surprised there hasn't been a Soldier:76 skin for Raynor yet.

Does Soldier 76 really have that low health in Overwatch?

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor
So skill set for Ana has been leaked here: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/70gqpu/ana_skillset_leak_spanish/

Combat Trait: Shrike
Basic attacks poison enemies (except buildings), inflicting 40 damage over 5 seconds. This effect can be stacked up to 5 times.

Q: Healing Dart
Launches a dart that heals the first allied hero hit for 250 Health.
Cooldown: 2 seconds

W: Biotic Grenade
Throws a grenade at the target area. Affected allied heroes are healed for 175 Health and receive 25% additional healing for 3 seconds. Affected enemy heroes suffer 60 damage and receive 100% reduced healing for 2 seconds.
Cooldown: 16 seconds.

E: Sleep Dart
Launches a dart that puts the first enemy hero hit to sleep, preventing any action for 3 seconds or until receiving damage.
Cooldown: 14 seconds.

R1: Nano Boost
Instantly restores 200 mana to an ally hero, as well as increasing spell power by 30% and cooldown recharge rate by 150% for 8 seconds.
Cooldown: 50 seconds

R2: Eye of Horus
Takes a sniper position and gains the ability to fire 8 special shots with unlimited range. Bullets hit the first allied or enemy Hero in its path. Allies are healed for 300 Health and enemies receive 175 damage.
Buildings can block shots.
Cooldown: 60 seconds.

I'm surprised to see the way they decided to differentiate between Stim Drone and Nanoboost. Other than that, it should be interesting, especially seeing how people use the 100% healing reduction.

jimmydalad fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Sep 16, 2017

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Welp, Ana's gonna be picked constantly unless they take a hatchet to some of those numbers.

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
They gave literally Sleep to an Overwatch hero? loving hell... No wonder they just can't seem to come up with a kit for a Dreadlord hero.

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jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor

Yardbomb posted:

Welp, Ana's gonna be picked constantly unless they take a hatchet to some of those numbers.

So, in essence, accurate to her OW counterpart.

Gustav posted:

They gave literally Sleep to an Overwatch hero? loving hell... No wonder they just can't seem to come up with a kit for a Dreadlord hero.

The sleep is functionally the same to her OW incarnation.

jimmydalad fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Sep 16, 2017

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