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Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Platystemon posted:

My religious garments are PPE.

You can keep those, I'll be able to run faster without them :v:

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Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I wonder if the "synthetic procedures I tried and liked" tagline is a reference to "Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved" and "Tryptamines I Have Known and Loved" by Shulgin? While his drugs are much more of the legal variety, he does seem to know the synthesis for various Illicit drugs offhand (admittedly not hard given his job) and it seems like a book he would have come across in his field of expertise.

It almost certainly is.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I wonder if the "synthetic procedures I tried and liked" tagline is a reference to "Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved" and "Tryptamines I Have Known and Loved" by Shulgin? While his drugs are much more of the legal variety, he does seem to know the synthesis for various Illicit drugs offhand (admittedly not hard given his job) and it seems like a book he would have come across in his field of expertise.

Most drugs are actually quite easy to make in a lab environment with precursors.
The problem comes from trying to go for novel/low yield synthesis routes, which then introduces the difficulty since you need to properly know your poo poo (or Breaking Bad in South Florida happens) or be highly practiced in lab techniques (respectively).

For an example of the latter: going from catechol to whatever MDxx you want.

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Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Phy posted:

Ah, a Murphyite

I'm splintering off to Klapötkism, praise be to the Holy N.

LogicalFallacy
Nov 16, 2015

Wrecking hell's shit since 1993


Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I'm splintering off to Klapötkism, praise be to the Holy N.
Sneezing in the chapel is highly discouraged.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

LogicalFallacy posted:

Sneezing in the chapel is highly discouraged.

That could cause a schism in the church.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

xthetenth posted:

That could cause a schism in the church.

Just one?

Eliza
Feb 20, 2011

xthetenth posted:

That could cause a schism in the church.

I believe you mean a chasm.

At least, that's what's going to remain of it.

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Alternative pants
Nov 2, 2009

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.


Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I'm splintering off to Klapötkism, praise be to the Holy N.

Mass will be said silently. With the lights off.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Alternative pants posted:

Mass will be said silently. With the lights off.

At a seperate location

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

Two Finger posted:

At a seperate location

By a grad student.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




TerminalSaint posted:

The real ridicule here should be reserved for the Canadian habit of calling any gas can a jerrycan.

True ! Only the original design should count. Have a good article on why they're awesome:

http://www.carryology.com/utility/carry-history-the-wwii-jerrycan/

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The jerrycan is legitimately greatest German invention of the Second World War.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Bertrand Hustle posted:

By a grad student.

Only the grad student shall handle the holy sacrament.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

mllaneza posted:

True ! Only the original design should count. Have a good article on why they're awesome:

http://www.carryology.com/utility/carry-history-the-wwii-jerrycan/

A bit that leaves out is that the can had headspace built in to make pouring easy without spills or glugging, and the headspace meant that even a full can would float on water. It's a masterpiece of design.


Unrelated: Is there a site you that you can input NFPA 704 numbers and get a list of matching chemicals as output?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
e: nm

Platystemon has a new favorite as of 04:57 on Sep 9, 2017

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Phanatic posted:

A bit that leaves out is that the can had headspace built in to make pouring easy without spills or glugging, and the headspace meant that even a full can would float on water. It's a masterpiece of design.


Unrelated: Is there a site you that you can input NFPA 704 numbers and get a list of matching chemicals as output?
Knock yourself out: https://cameochemicals.noaa.gov

Reverse lookup of fire diamond numbers is discouraged for anything besides novelty because they can be based on mixture, preparation, or combined inventory in what would be one approachable unit during a fire, ie like my favorite example of my local Walmart having a 3,2,3 diamond or something silly on the outer wall.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

After a long drive, googling the hazmat numbers of all the trucks you've seen is a funtime activity.

Two best I've seen so far were 1049 and 2977.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

LostCosmonaut posted:

After a long drive, googling the hazmat numbers of all the trucks you've seen is a funtime activity.

Two best I've seen so far were 1049 and 2977.

Someone in this thread recommended the iOS app "What's In That Truck" which basically does the same thing. It's great. (Only if you're in the passenger seat, obviously, please don't use your phone while driving.)

2977 though, nice. :science:
Uranium hexafluoride

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

I live near a pretty major military base, so looking up the hazmat numbers is always particularly fun here.

The most :magical: one I think I've seen is UN 2190. Compressed oxygen difluoride, used as an oxidizing agent in rocket fuel.

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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Most drugs are actually quite easy to make in a lab environment with precursors.
The problem comes from trying to go for novel/low yield synthesis routes, which then introduces the difficulty since you need to properly know your poo poo (or Breaking Bad in South Florida happens) or be highly practiced in lab techniques (respectively).

For an example of the latter: going from catechol to whatever MDxx you want.

Not to mention being able to get the precursors in any real quantity without attracting legal attention.

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

The most :magical: one I think I've seen is UN 2190. Compressed oxygen difluoride, used as an oxidizing agent in rocket fuel.

FOOF's easy-going cousin.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Zopotantor posted:

...9 now...

10 and aftermath.

He sounds fairly bitter and somewhat petty. Unfortunately really human.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Any normal person would be after that kind of bullshit.

ol qwerty bastard
Dec 13, 2005

If you want something done, do it yourself!

Zemyla posted:

FOOF's easy-going cousin.

Ahh, good ol' FOF, presumably pronounced similar to the end of the sentence "you want me to put what in my rocket? Eff off!"

I'm Crap
Aug 15, 2001
I'm not aware of any rocket engines that actually use OF2, they gave it up as a bad idea in the 1950s (it's even more miserably poisonous than fluorine without delivering noticeably better performance, impossible to handle, very expensive, etc.).

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



I'm Crap posted:

I'm not aware of any rocket engines that actually use OF2, they gave it up as a bad idea in the 1950s (it's even more miserably poisonous than fluorine without delivering noticeably better performance, impossible to handle, very expensive, etc.).

It's almost like it's rocket fuel.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



I'm Crap posted:

I'm not aware of any rocket engines that actually use OF2, they gave it up as a bad idea in the 1950s (it's even more miserably poisonous than fluorine without delivering noticeably better performance, impossible to handle, very expensive, etc.).

But is it hypergolic with test engineers? If not, it's already safer than ClF3!

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Icon Of Sin posted:

But is it hypergolic with test engineers? If not, it's already safer than ClF3!

...I think it might be hypergolic with itself?

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

...I think it might be hypergolic with itself?

I think we already have a name for that

ol qwerty bastard
Dec 13, 2005

If you want something done, do it yourself!
Watching the video that North Korea released of their latest Hwasong-12 launch, I thought it was nice that they've colour-coded the exhaust clouds the international standard orange-brown of HOLY gently caress DO NOT BREATHE THIS IN



Wikipedia says the fuel is

quote:

Hypergolic combination of unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) as fuel, and either Dinitrogen tetroxide (N2O4) or red fuming nitric acid (RFNA) as oxidizer

Given that combination, anyone want to figure out what fun stuff you'd find in the exhaust plume?

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

ol qwerty bastard posted:

Watching the video that North Korea released of their latest Hwasong-12 launch, I thought it was nice that they've colour-coded the exhaust clouds the international standard orange-brown of HOLY gently caress DO NOT BREATHE THIS IN



Wikipedia says the fuel is


Given that combination, anyone want to figure out what fun stuff you'd find in the exhaust plume?

Orange juche.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Wasabi the J posted:

Orange juche.

:perfect:

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Wasabi the J posted:

Orange juche.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

ol qwerty bastard posted:

Watching the video that North Korea released of their latest Hwasong-12 launch, I thought it was nice that they've colour-coded the exhaust clouds the international standard orange-brown of HOLY gently caress DO NOT BREATHE THIS IN



Wikipedia says the fuel is


Given that combination, anyone want to figure out what fun stuff you'd find in the exhaust plume?

Those combinations mostly go to h2o, n2 and co2 when they actually combust. The main nasty thing is unreacted n2o4; even in the tanks it naturally decomposes into 2x no2, which is highly toxic and the source of the orange color. RFNA also gives off no2 fumes, hence why it's hard to determine which they're using. There's various products of incomplete combustion in there too, but no2 and friends (good old NOX emissions) are probably the biggest concern.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



ol qwerty bastard posted:

Watching the video that North Korea released of their latest Hwasong-12 launch, I thought it was nice that they've colour-coded the exhaust clouds the international standard orange-brown of HOLY gently caress DO NOT BREATHE THIS IN



Wikipedia says the fuel is


Given that combination, anyone want to figure out what fun stuff you'd find in the exhaust plume?

Well that early red cloud is straight up unburnt rfna+tetrox, it doesn't get much more fucky than that... but from the actual exhaust, I (a non-chemist) would expect hyper prevalence of NOx - think everything bad from an unfiltered soviet diesel tractor times super-cancer. Its not that exotic in the end, Hydrazine is still a hydrocarbon and Nitric Acid is still Oxygen, but with a loving spoonfull of holy Lord Nitrogen thrown in. Because why not, you know? His might is our devotion - Church of Klapötke

e. fb :mitt:

the wiki on rfna has a basic overview of common oxidizer recipes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_fuming_nitric_acid

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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Wasabi the J posted:

Orange juche.

Amazing

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Wasabi the J posted:

Orange juche.

Bandwagoning this delight

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Breaking Bad in South Florida is now complete.

Part 1 here, links to 2–10 + Aftermath available at the top of the page.

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Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Platystemon posted:

Breaking Bad in South Florida is now complete.

Part 1 here, links to 2–10 + Aftermath available at the top of the page.

https://www.research.usf.edu/rf/content/popup/intezyne-info.html hmmmmmmmm

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