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Yeah, you can call Jerry Jones as big of a dingus as you want, but his teams have been fine even after his dynasty run, and considering he installed himself as GM, gets to go ahead and take credit for all those solidly good Romo teams and the current Oline. He deserves more credit then Kraft overall.
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evilweasel's point is well-received, but I wonder how Bob Kraft would have reacted if a pre-Super Bowl Belichick told him to gently caress off from a meeting because it was for “men only”. I guess he just wouldn't insert himself into that position in the first place.
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Kraft probably wouldn't have been told that because he isn't a sniveling man child who previously butted heads with the coach he hired.
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evilweasel posted:he does the two things that an owner needs to do to be a good owner: (a) hired the right coach (and GM) and (b) stayed the gently caress out of all decisions beyond those two and let the competent people he hired run the thing instead of sticking his fingers in repeatedly You have to remember most owners are rich man child's who see the teams as toys. So ofc when someone else plays with their toy they throw a poo poo fit.
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mcmagic posted:I'd take that for the rest of my life. sure but i'd say it means that just becuase the coach/GM is stupidly successful doesn't mean an idiot owner isn't going to kool-aid man his way into the decision making room and fire anyone who tries to kick him out
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If I owned the Bills it'd probably be pretty hard for me to just sit back completely and not meddle at all. I like Tyrod and Sammy and there was no way I'd let Fred Jackson go when they did.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Kraft probably wouldn't have been told that because he isn't a sniveling man child who previously butted heads with the coach he hired. Yeah, I mean the requirements for being a good owner are basically: Hires competent people with football knowledge to run the team, gives them what they need and stays the gently caress out of the way. Kraft fulfills all three with flying colors. Jed York fails on at least two, Jim Irsay whiffs on the first one, Mike Brown the second, etc...
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fsif posted:If I owned the Bills it'd probably be pretty hard for me to just sit back completely and not meddle at all. I like Tyrod and Sammy and there was no way I'd let Fred Jackson go when they did. Your decision making couldn't have been worse than the Bills over the last 10 years. Same with mine and the Jets.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Kraft probably wouldn't have been told that because he isn't a sniveling man child who previously butted heads with the coach he hired. As funny and deserved as it was, probably not the smartest career move for Harbaugh or any employee to call their boss a child in front of the entire organization
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Kalli posted:Yeah, I mean the requirements for being a good owner are basically: Hires competent people with football knowledge to run the team, gives them what they need and stays the gently caress out of the way. after all its not all owners who will pay their QB under the table to make sure their GM has extra money for the rest of the team
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evilweasel posted:after all its not all owners who will pay their QB under the table to make sure their GM has extra money for the rest of the team There is no way Kraft came up with that himself. It's all Belichick. SHOAH NUFF posted:As funny and deserved as it was, probably not the smartest career move for Harbaugh or any employee to call their boss a child in front of the entire organization He probably was thrilled that he got fired. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Yeah how much did they have to pay him?mcmagic posted:There is no way Bob Kraft is any smarter than Woody Johnson. He just hired the right coach and lucked into a qb. Hired is very polite language.
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Sep 11, 2017 21:59
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Real hurthling! posted:Hired is very polite language.
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If I owned an NFL team I'd appoint TFF as the GM. As long as everyone agrees that Rex Grossman is our franchise quarterback.
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Pre-Belichick Kraft fired Pete Carroll after a 3-year 27-21 record stint and tried to move the team to Hartford. That would be considered meddlesome were it not for accidentally hiring a dark lord out of spite and lottery-balling the best qb ever.
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Carroll took a team that was just in the SB, young and talented all over the roster and had it decline three straight years. Granted a lot of that was the incompetent GM, but Carroll was bad with the Patriots. Also I never cared about the idea of the team moving to Hartford. It was already in Foxborough and only really affected the Townies who everyone hates anyway. Rabble Rabble Rabble.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Pre-Belichick Kraft fired Pete Carroll after a 3-year 27-21 record stint and tried to move the team to Hartford. That would be considered meddlesome were it not for accidentally hiring a dark lord out of spite and lottery-balling the best qb ever. i think getting belichick had a huge amount of luck but kraft did trade a first round draft pick to a division rival for him and gave him GM authority as well so he saw something there worth going all-in on
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:The Miami Dolphins play tomorrow Eww
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evilweasel posted:jerry jones fired the guy who won him two super bowls because he was mad the coach was getting credit instead of jerry jones and the cowboys were stunningly mediocre for a long time as a result (despite the one super bowl they won with the departing coach's team that jerry took credit for) That same guy Jerry fired could have rebuilt the Dolphins, only failed because he wasn't allowed to trade the most beloved QB in franchise history.
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chilihead posted:That same guy Jerry fired could have rebuilt the Dolphins, only failed because he wasn't allowed to trade the most beloved QB in franchise history. Imagine how much Jimmy Johnson would have been able to fleece some fools for old man Marino lol. *GM notices passing stats going up* GIVE ME MARNO FOR OUR NEXT TWO ENTIRE DRAFTS *Jimmy Johnson gets Peyton Manning, Randy Moss and Edgerrin James or some dumb poo poo like that* Probably not really but it's a funny scenario to imagine.
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1 year and 2 games into the Hackenberg Era he's inactive and Bowles said he will be inactive as long as Petty is healthy.
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Smartest decision a team's made all year tbh
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Jets hung in the game too long i was getting scared for a second.
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Real hurthling! posted:Jets hung in the game too long i was getting scared for a second. Don't worry, there is a law about the Jets special teams being a horrific joke that has been in effect since Westhoff left.
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Dolphins only undefeated team in the afc east
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Real hurthling! posted:Jets hung in the game too long i was getting scared for a second. lol Triplette
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One thing about the Jets "tanking,' there isn't one veteran player they cut who is making them look bad...
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Ehud posted:Dolphins only undefeated team in the afc east
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mcmagic posted:One thing about the Jets "tanking,' there isn't one veteran player they cut who is making them look bad... Pretty much. Even David Harris only managed 1 snap this week.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Pretty much. Even David Harris only managed 1 snap this week. Shows how horrible the roster was even last year and that 2015 was all a product of a really easy schedule.
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So how good is the Saints linebacker the Dolphins just got
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:'Saints' 'linebacker' The clue is within the question
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:So how good is the Saints linebacker the Dolphins just got probably not very good but at some point you need human beings to strap pads onto
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If he'd have gone to the Pat's probably amazing. As it is, pretty much what Ehud says. Mike Hull played every defensive snap on Sunday. That is not ideal.
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He's very athletic and is good in front of the ball. He's our attempt at replacing Lawrence Timmons
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Has anymore news or speculation come out on what caused Timmons to disappear like he did?
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His kid. The day before the game he wanted to visit his kid he asked to miss all the team meetings the Saturday before our game and Gase told him no - he went anyway
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Amy Pole Her posted:His kid. The day before the game he wanted to visit his kid he asked to miss all the team meetings the Saturday before our game and Gase told him no - he went anyway Have any Miami reporters picked this up yet? Armando is still writing like he doesn't know what happened with Timmons.
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