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chumbler posted:Grom wouldn't have felt weak to play, but nobody should really have expected better of his son. Grom was a garbage orc who is outclassed in every way by his son. hurr burr I'm gonna take two grunts and a raider to attack this fortified human base and refuse to bring my supply capped army to help my buddy defend from the counterattack
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It's probably because Mists of Pandaria was basically my favorite WoW expansion, but yeah. Garrosh is pretty easily the biggest miss the HotS team has made as far as capturing a character for me. The pull and throw are useful tools, but nothing about him is mountains of skulls and rivers of blood and having HIS WORLD.
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Sep 17, 2017 08:50
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ToastyPotato posted:Is there a list of which older character AI have been updated? https://twitter.com/AhliSC2/status/908058830738685952 Edit: The tweet doesn't format well in the app, the list goes on after Garrosh. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 09:10
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I've topped the damage meters with Garry before, but it requires the enemy team to have Lost Vikings that never split up and always come to teamfights so you can SPIN2WIN.
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Mind over Matter posted:It's probably because Mists of Pandaria was basically my favorite WoW expansion, but yeah. Garrosh is pretty easily the biggest miss the HotS team has made as far as capturing a character for me. The pull and throw are useful tools, but nothing about him is mountains of skulls and rivers of blood and having HIS WORLD. I was really dissapointed how he doesn't have a level 20 talent where he pulls out an old god's heart, eats it and then screams THE POWER, FLOWS THROUGH ME! RRRUUUUUGGGGAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
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Sep 17, 2017 14:50
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At least his voice lines are pretty good. ENOUGH OF YOU! *hits for 20 dmg*
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Sep 17, 2017 15:46
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"You fight like a true orc!" (Gul'Dan stares incredulously)
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Sep 17, 2017 15:53
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Patrick Seitz is a gift and I'll forever miss him having a more prevalent role.
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Sep 17, 2017 15:53
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"Anger management? I'm great at managing people with my anger!"
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Sep 17, 2017 16:04
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Whatever you do, don't buy the "you are dismissed" voice line. For some reason its volume is really low, impossible to hear in most cases 
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Sep 17, 2017 16:11
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I just love the fact that like 90% of the dudes basically hate having Garrosh on their team.
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Sep 17, 2017 16:56
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Trying out Garrosh, and honestly his abilities actually are pretty good (mechanically). He's a huge, slowly advancing brick wall that tosses enemies aside like they were peons. The animations are horrible and really significantly hurt how he feels. Like compare Garrosh to Leoric, they have similar attack animations (and an overhead 3rd strike chop). Leoric has real weight and meat behind his swings, Garrosh feels like he's flicking his axe or something. Overpower's ground effect is more noticeable than the actual Overpower animation, Bloodthirst I don't think even has a real animation and is just reusing an attack animation. The chuck and Decimate are okay but, again, have no real weight behind them. It's the same problem as with Arthas and Tyrael and several other heroes, which makes me suspect that they assigned Garrosh to the worst animator on the team or something and unfortunately that guy hasn't really improved his abilities.
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Anyone know of a good tanking video or tutorial? I love playing them but my win rate in that role in QM is horrible. I am above 50% on all other roles yet down at around 42 as a tank which sucks. I am aware of concepts such as peeling and body blocking (not saying i am good at it, though) but I feel like I have a hard time knowing how to engage properly and such without overextending or just being stupid.
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Sep 17, 2017 17:06
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Gorelab posted:I just love the fact that like 90% of the dudes basically hate having Garrosh on their team. They're getting a lot of mileage out of all those "YOU", "Ugh, it's you..." and "We're on the same team... for now" quotes. Or as Garrosh would say "As warchief I'm ashamed to partner with a coward like you".
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BrianBoitano posted:Whatever you do, don't buy the "you are dismissed" voice line. For some reason its volume is really low, impossible to hear in most cases Hellscream's Eyes is the correct choice anyway.
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Sep 17, 2017 17:26
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Kel'Thuzad has like 800x the depth Garrosh does and way better and more robustly designed talents.  Whoever designed KT's talents should be in charge of every single hero and hero rework.
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Sep 17, 2017 17:28
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It's pretty harshly unfair to compare Kel'thuzad and Garrosh's design qualities. It's much easier to work with a character who has a large repertoire of spells to choose from than it is to work with a character whose defining traits are "meathead" and "rear end in a top hat".
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Sep 17, 2017 17:49
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Mierenneuker posted:https://twitter.com/AhliSC2/status/908058830738685952 Thanks! Hopefully it doesn't take too long to get a majority of the cast updated.
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Sep 17, 2017 18:18
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I really hate Kel'Thuzad and find him very unfun to play against. The main thing I hate is it feels like the range on his Ice Chain thing is way too long. He's probably the character I hate playing against the most now. Are people expecting him to get nerfed at all?
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Star posted:Anyone know of a good tanking video or tutorial? I love playing them but my win rate in that role in QM is horrible. I am above 50% on all other roles yet down at around 42 as a tank which sucks. I am aware of concepts such as peeling and body blocking (not saying i am good at it, though) but I feel like I have a hard time knowing how to engage properly and such without overextending or just being stupid. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1efiJPDPIvUez4tD0B1mfp9Kq9d-sLhvh6aPB5O045M0/edit?usp=sharing Cavalier Guest's Art of the Tank is a really good overview of tanking. garthoneeye fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 19:05
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Star posted:Anyone know of a good tanking video or tutorial? I love playing them but my win rate in that role in QM is horrible. I am above 50% on all other roles yet down at around 42 as a tank which sucks. I am aware of concepts such as peeling and body blocking (not saying i am good at it, though) but I feel like I have a hard time knowing how to engage properly and such without overextending or just being stupid. A lot of knowing when to engage is map awareness and timer awareness. Can I see two of them up top? I should gank bot/we should for sure team fight here. Have they been missing awhile? Likely doing merc if mercenaries flip to them I know now I have a 15-20 second window to engage. You can also watch death timers as well that tends to help. Being a tank also forces you to know the strengths of your hero as well as a general idea of how the other heroes work so you know how to engage/who to target in a teamfight. A good tank honestly has a mindset similar to someone who mains junglers since you spend so much time trying to make sure the fight is stacked in your favor.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Kel'Thuzad has like 800x the depth Garrosh does and way better and more robustly designed talents. Yeah I love characters who rely on their level 7 talent choice even harder than Sylvanas.
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Sep 17, 2017 19:32
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Tossing overextending idiots over the gate or into my team loving kicks rear end so I'll take the hit on the fantasy a little bit. Also I swear to god it's ALWAYS a Varian! They love getting just a bit too close and WOOPS over you go buddy! I played a game recently where I must have made the Varian on the other team so mad cause I just kept throwing him so out of position every time we engaged.
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Sep 17, 2017 19:47
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Macaluso posted:Tossing overextending idiots over the gate or into my team loving kicks rear end so I'll take the hit on the fantasy a little bit. Also I swear to god it's ALWAYS a Varian! They love getting just a bit too close and WOOPS over you go buddy! Yeah but I can also do that with Diablo. And have more fun with it.
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Kurieg posted:Yeah but I can also do that with Diablo. And have more fun with it.  NOTHING is more fun than tossing motherfuckers with Wrecking Ball.
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Shadowlyger posted:
Yes, there is. Tossing motherfuckers with Into the Fray.
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I had a garnish toss their laser azmodan at me RIGHT when I was about to escape its range. Ended up killing me instead.
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Sep 17, 2017 20:56
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Playing garrosh and kt is really satisfying when you execute their combos really well. That's my opinion, thanks.
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Kurieg posted:Yeah but I can also do that with Diablo. And have more fun with it. Uh no it is absolutely not more fun with Diablo
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YolkaEd posted:Yes, there is. poo poo, you're right.
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Power Bottom posted:It's pretty harshly unfair to compare Kel'thuzad and Garrosh's design qualities. It's much easier to work with a character who has a large repertoire of spells to choose from than it is to work with a character whose defining traits are "meathead" and "rear end in a top hat". Except it's really not. People in this very thread have discussed how his Siege of Orgrimmar boss fight kit would smoothly transfer into HotS.
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Cuntellectual posted:Except it's really not. People in this very thread have discussed how his Siege of Orgrimmar boss fight kit would smoothly transfer into HotS. Smooth as a gravel pit, you mean.
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Sep 17, 2017 21:53
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A few wow fans seem to think garrosh is a proper badass and not a short bald guy who yells a lot and can't do anything right.
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Sep 17, 2017 22:02
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Garrosh looks like a boring, generic bloodthirsty orc from a boring, generic setting, I don't see the problem here. His animations do suck.
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At least now we know that our Orc Arms Warrior fantasy will be fulfilled by the decidedly superior specimen, my good friend High Overlord Saurfang. Just lol if you think Orcs are over-represented.
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Star posted:Anyone know of a good tanking video or tutorial? I love playing them but my win rate in that role in QM is horrible. I am above 50% on all other roles yet down at around 42 as a tank which sucks. I am aware of concepts such as peeling and body blocking (not saying i am good at it, though) but I feel like I have a hard time knowing how to engage properly and such without overextending or just being stupid. My highest average winrate is with tanks. Being a good tank is being a good leader. You need strong game knowledge, map awareness, and communication to set up ganks and teamfights. It's really hard to do if you havn't played a lot of MOBAs but you really need to be able to see what the other team is doing even when they're not on the map. If any goons have played with me before, they'll tell you that I'm pretty good on calling things like lane rotations on someone out of position, giving up objectives even when we're together as 5, and killing boss even when the other team is up. To do all of that you need to be using a microphone and discord or be a very fast typist with amazing pings; but good luck doing any of that during a teamfight. Also, that link is really useful for choosing what tank you want to play but it's borderline uesless if you're playing QM.
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Shadowlyger posted:Smooth as a gravel pit, you mean. Throw axe, spin, bad touch for q, w, e. Eat heart for R1, Iron Star for R2. Trait is who cares.
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Sep 17, 2017 22:51
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I'd like if his existing taunt transported the enemy to the Realm of Y'shaarj so they literally have nothing to attack but him.
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Sep 17, 2017 22:57
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HitTheTargets posted:I'd like if his existing taunt transported the enemy to the Realm of Y'shaarj so they literally have nothing to attack but him. That would be amazing, even if it was just a visual effect. Tint the screen black and grey then hide the rest of Garry's team.
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Hmm, maybe they know they can do that to get people to shell out for an All Sha'd Up skin.
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