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Pararoid posted:And yet just yesterday Gareth Morgan was promoting the Stuff online poll as being more representative than any of the scientific polls, but Gower didn't see the need to fly into a rage over that. Yeah nor did he feel the need to let the spittle fly over the "75% of landlords" who say they're going to raise rents if Labour get into government. The Green party poll really was bs though. It was a robocall that asked "Between the Labour and Green candidates in Nelson, which do you think is more likely to beat Nick Smith." (not verbatim)
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Slavvy posted:So that leaves two possibilities: there are several hundred thousand thick as gently caress people who genuinely don't know who to vote for because voting works in reality like it does on paper, or polls are useless for anything besides getting a general feel for the public mood because they don't really reflect how the voting public behaves. Um, yes?
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bike tory posted:That's not a useful or accurate measure of its contribution to our economy because GDP only includes end goods, so the bulk of agricultural goods (like milk powder/concentrates, wool, meat etc) aren't included because they isn't processed here. Agriculture makes up more than half of our exports, which google says totaled $61bn in 2013 fair enough
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:If the Greens fall below 5%, then you're gonna have to deal with three years at least of Minister Winston. Survey says that's likely going to happen anyway.
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Sep 18, 2017 07:25
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Sep 18, 2017 07:47
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The way this story is being framed and the comments are just....  https://www.facebook.com/Stuff.co.nz/posts/10155773867114268
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Sep 18, 2017 08:20
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Sep 18, 2017 08:22
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People like that are a mystery. Lets vote for the party who are giving you less rights than everyone else and hates your guts because reasons?? It's like those Le Pen voters who were voting for their own oppressor. Screwed himself over with both the vote and implied endorsement and being queer is no shield for either. Dumb gently caress. Also LOL the Young Nats not taking it down after being requested to do so. quote:"I'm proud to be an out Nat because tolerance, free enterprise and a great economy means everyone can thrive." Classic trickle down economics.
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Ghostlight posted:So much for the tolerant left. It's not about his views, it's about him attaching the group's name to a political party when they're supposed to be politically neutral
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Sep 18, 2017 09:14
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oohhboy posted:People like that are a mystery. Lets vote for the party who are giving you less rights than everyone else and hates your guts because reasons?? It's like those Le Pen voters who were voting for their own oppressor. Not really a mystery, the common pleb is certainly more happy to vote on the hope that he'll one day be rich. As opposed to, y'know, accepting the reality that he is not. It's an ego thing, humani nihil a me alienum puto and all that.
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WarpedNaba posted:Not really a mystery, the common pleb is certainly more happy to vote on the hope that he'll one day be rich. As opposed to, y'know, accepting the reality that he is not. In this case, the guy is already well off, thanks to his mother giving him a job at her company.
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WarpedNaba posted:Not really a mystery, the common pleb is certainly more happy to vote on the hope that he'll one day be rich. As opposed to, y'know, accepting the reality that he is not. "Temporarily embarassed millionaires" though millionaire is a bit of a low bar with the housing market etc
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I've met plenty of gay national voters? Like I'd definitely say it's a minority of gay people, but it's not like the National party is akin to the US Republican party. Post 1990's the National party has been way more defined by economic policy than any kind of identity conservatism.
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bike tory posted:I've met plenty of gay national voters? Like I'd definitely say it's a minority of gay people, but it's not like the National party is akin to the US Republican party. Post 1990's the National party has been way more defined by economic policy than any kind of identity conservatism. How many of them aren't middle-class white men? e: daily gently caress TOP update 
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But haven't you heard? Hooton says it's a farce!
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El Pollo Blanco posted:How many of them aren't middle-class white men? National is known to be specifically prejudiced against non-white lesbians, it's true.
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Does anyone know what happened to the Dim Post blog? It went private ages ago and I forgot about it.
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sebmojo posted:National is known to be specifically prejudiced against non-white lesbians, it's true. Have you considered intersectionality
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Red_Fred posted:Does anyone know what happened to the Dim Post blog? It went private ages ago and I forgot about it. If you're missing it as much as I was, he's done some really interesting longerform columns on The Spinoff https://thespinoff.co.nz/author/danyl-mclauchlan/ I have enjoyed all of them. Particularly https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/20-08-2017/communism-by-stealth-notes-on-conservatism-neoliberalism-social-investment-and-a-ubi/
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loving hell David Seymour is terrible https://twitter.com/dbseymour/status/909945934447992832 After reading the article he linked three times, the only way it makes sense is if you consider "enslave" and "make pay taxes" the same thing.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:loving hell David Seymour is terrible Lol that this is based on the Taxpayer's Union 'study' that double dips all the loving spending figures of a Green-Labour coalition.
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Red_Fred posted:Does anyone know what happened to the Dim Post blog? It went private ages ago and I forgot about it. I think he used to blog regularly and was very active on twitter until he was hired by the Green Party. He has since gone silent in most social media stuff apart from some recent Spinoff articles. Will hopefully return after the election.
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Varkk posted:I think he used to blog regularly and was very active on twitter until he was hired by the Green Party. He has since gone silent in most social media stuff apart from some recent Spinoff articles. Yeah that's right. I had forgotten he was sitting for the Spinoff though. Also didn't know he got hired by the Green Party which would explain why everything has gone.
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bobbilljim posted:"Temporarily embarassed millionaires"
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:loving hell David Seymour is terrible Believe it or not this is actually "progress" for the ACT end of the spectrum. https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/southern-slave-owner-vs-modern-democratic-state-lf-135202 quote:The New Zealand government spends a third of all that we produce. A slave owner took only 10%. The governments we elect are three times more rapacious than slave owners. The whole thing is an extended defense of slavery as "not so bad" that is only loving topped off by a picture of Roots to accompany it.
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Libertarians have some deep, masochistic need to be hated by as many people as possible. I wonder why? They're not even libertarians. They are just a far right puppet party.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:It's possible Seymour himself is dumb enough to be a true believer. Seymour is probably the first true believer Libertarian the ACT party has ever had in parliament, I feel.
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Libertarians have some deep, masochistic need to be hated by as many people as possible. I wonder why? When your shattered self-worth is fueled by a sense of victimization and is expressed through spite, I could see it happen. Hell, happened to me. Never went full [censored] and shifted right-wing, though.
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exmarx posted:https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/face-the-classroom Winston talking about nuclear holocaust owns
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