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The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

She is the first woman of color lead and that is true and it is easy to misspeak. Principle of charity until proven otherwise.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 15:05

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# ? May 29, 2024 20:42

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

No, the whole article is a mess:

quote:

Jason Isaacs, who plays Discovery�s war-mongering Captain Gabriel Lorca, is likewise a Trek fan from a different era, admiring Patrick Stewart�s Captain Jean-Luc Picard from the big screen versions of the late 1990s.

Unsurprisingly, the new cast all geeked out when Jonathan Frakes, who played Riker alongside Stewart in the early film versions, recently guest-directed an episode.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 15:30

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Definitely don't get anyone who knows anything about a major franchise/fandom to write or even edit your article. :justpost:

# ? Sep 19, 2017 15:37

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

On a different note, here's something I've never seen before: Star Trek III Excelsior bridge concept art:

presumably before they realised they had to build it for two dollars and what they had spare in the back room.

A wraparound display would've been awesome.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 15:44

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Maybe they're hoping the article's inaccuracies will cause it to go vital as nerds flock to the comments section to register their dissent?

Edit: lol at the author's name: Gill Pringle

# ? Sep 19, 2017 15:44

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

MikeJF posted:

On a different note, here's something I've never seen before: Star Trek III Excelsior bridge concept art:

presumably before they realised they had to build it for two dollars and what they had spare in the back room.

A wraparound display would've been awesome.

That is really cool but doesn't look right for Starfleet, it's so sinister.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 15:50

After The War: Apr 12, 2005; to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

skasion posted:

That is really cool but doesn't look right for Starfleet, it's so sinister.

I like that it has what gear they're in right on the screen, like a space dashboard.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 15:54

Death Ray: Jan 20, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 6 years!)

Hello Trekkers...Trekkies...Treknophiles? WHAT ARE WEEEEE??

I wouldn't mind some constructive criticism on my project Kobayashi Maru. It is a Star Trek-themed webcomic that I hope is on its way to becoming a comic book, like my previous major project, Weapon Brown. There are presently 25 installments.

Kobayashi Maru It is a parodic take on Star Trek, but not as broad as something like "Futurama". The pitch is: "What woukd the Star Trek universe look like from the POV of the roughnecks in the Neutral Zone?"

All comments welcome, (except those that mock my tiny genitals. See? Beat you to it! Why even go there? No woman will!)

Thanks in advance!

# ? Sep 19, 2017 16:00

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

skasion posted:

That is really cool but doesn't look right for Starfleet, it's so sinister.

I like it. Especially if the idea was meant to be that the viewscreen was an entire dome, space over their heads.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 16:03

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Death Ray posted:

Kobayashi Maru

I loved your work and attention to detail in Weapon Brown so I will definitely be checking this out.

IANAL but doesn't explicitly saying it's not a fanfic and also not a parody put you in some form of legal danger when monitizing the work?

# ? Sep 19, 2017 16:09

The Fuzzy Hulk: Nov 22, 2007; ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS

Maybe the article is getting Star Trek confused with The Orville.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 16:19

Death Ray: Jan 20, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 6 years!)

The Bloop posted:

I loved your work and attention to detail in Weapon Brown so I will definitely be checking this out.

IANAL but doesn't explicitly saying it's not a fanfic and also not a parody put you in some form of legal danger when monitizing the work?

The only actual reference to a specific Star Trek element is the name Kobayashi Maru. Since I only use it as the title, and titles can't be copyrighted, I shouldn't have an issue. All other Star Trek IP is disguised behind "slang"-- "Feds"and "Klugs"instead of the Federation and Klingons, for example.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 17:22

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Death Ray posted:

The only actual reference to a specific Star Trek element is the name Kobayashi Maru. Since I only use it as the title, and titles can't be copyrighted, I shouldn't have an issue. All other Star Trek IP is disguised behind "slang"-- "Feds"and "Klugs"instead of the Federation and Klingons, for example.

Again, IANAL but the overall look of things like that two-nacelled-one-saucered ship and the inclusion even of slang like feds feels like the overall design element is more heavily lifted than, say, The Orville.

Haven't read it all yet, just curious about your thought process/ legal position.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 17:51

Transmodiar: Jul 9, 2005; You're a terrible person, Mildred.

The Bloop posted:

Again, IANAL but the overall look of things like that two-nacelled-one-saucered ship and the inclusion even of slang like feds feels like the overall design element is more heavily lifted than, say, The Orville.

We get it - U ANAL. :smug:

If Weapon Brown didn't get Death Ray deathspanked, he has nothing to fear from this.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 17:55

Death Ray: Jan 20, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 6 years!)

The Bloop posted:

Again, IANAL but the overall look of things like that two-nacelled-one-saucered ship and the inclusion even of slang like feds feels like the overall design element is more heavily lifted than, say, The Orville.

Haven't read it all yet, just curious about your thought process/ legal position.

I dig. Once you read on, you will see how I solve the problem of that one ship looking too much like the Enterprise. Mwuh! Mwuh ha! MWUH HAHAHAHAHA!

# ? Sep 19, 2017 17:57

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Enterprise was the first trek with continuity and serialization according to rick Berman and now discovery will have the first black lead.

Ds9 erasure is triggering me hard.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 18:17

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

They're giving Deep Space 9 the Deep Space 6!

But they can't hide it, it's going to be on very successful Trek podcast The Greatest Generation in like, a month of less and probably a ton of people rewatching

# ? Sep 19, 2017 18:20

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I'm doing a gradual rewatch of DS9 and it's amazing how good this show is with the writing. Even plots that would have made for a mediocre episode of TNG are so much better here.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 19:03

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

vermin posted:

The Producer's Knife Cares Not For the Writer's Cry

I chuckled

# ? Sep 19, 2017 19:12

Big Mean Jerk: Jan 27, 2009; Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

FlamingLiberal posted:

I'm doing a gradual rewatch of DS9 and it's amazing how good this show is with the writing. Even plots that would have made for a mediocre episode of TNG are so much better here.

It really is. I think I've rewatched the series 2 or 3 times in the last couple years and every time I'm surprised by the jump in quality from TNG to DS9. There are one-off season 7 episodes that are stronger than big TNG two-parters.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 19:20

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I just rewatched 'The Collaborator' which is an interesting shades of gray kind of ending. Vedek Bareil was willing to effectively end his relationship with Kira and also kill his chance to become Kai just to save the reputation of Kai Opaka, his mentor. Like he has Kira convinced that he was guilty of giving the Cardassians intel during the Occupation that led to 40+ deaths. Only because he forgot to erase all of the evidence does she find out that he's lying.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 19:50

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

The civilian government is a high flow feces/air distribution manifold though so Barile is trying to save the only institution that functions.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 19:58

Sir Kodiak: May 14, 2007

Vedek Bareil is such a dumb piece of poo poo. In one act, he shows complete disrespect for the Bajoran people, while also trashing Kai Opaka's actual legacy by letting Winn become the head of their religion. Just a complete jackass. A believable one, though, making for a good episode.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:03

Beachcomber: May 21, 2007; Another day in paradise.; Slippery Tilde

Bareil is so flat nobody noticed when he became a robot.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:05

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Bareil is so boring even the mirror universe Bareil is boring

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:17

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

All of Kira's boyfriends are terrible. Even Odo. Especially Odo.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:29

WampaLord: Jan 14, 2010

Al Borland Corp. posted:

All of Kira's boyfriends are terrible. Even Odo. Especially Odo.

WHO DOES THIS?

Just sit there and drink nothing if you want to hang out, don't make a fake cup and drink your own goo, you loving weirdo! JUST SIT THERE!

P.S. - Garak's approving nod is the :discourse:

of that gif

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:40

Big Mean Jerk: Jan 27, 2009; Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Odo should have ended up with Quark

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:41

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Also you're loving sixty years old, learn to make a face. You can turn into a loving eagle but can't make a face? Really?

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:50

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Also you're loving sixty years old, learn to make a face. You can turn into a loving eagle but can't make a face? Really?

He can make a face, but like Stephen Hawking's voice, that is his face now

# ? Sep 19, 2017 20:58

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Isn't his face in Children of Time much more realistic?

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:01

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

The_Doctor posted:

Isn't his face in Children of Time much more realistic?

yeah. maybe he wanted to age with people. He never had friends before.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:03

Hipster_Doofus: Dec 20, 2003; Lovin' every minute of it.

The Bloop posted:

He can make a face, but like Stephen Hawking's voice, that is his face now

That's how I always thought of it, even if it's not mentioned. It does make perfect in-universe sense.

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:07

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Everyone else can make whatever face they want

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:08

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Everyone else can make whatever face they want

And Odo isn't everyone else!

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:09

Hipster_Doofus: Dec 20, 2003; Lovin' every minute of it.

Everyone else doesn't have a reason to maintain a specific appearance as a... as a, yechh, as a solid. Except for Salome Jens, who presumably (explicitly...? don't remember) appeared that way for Odo's sake. That's another reason I think it was an unspoken, but canon, reason why Odo didn't work at it harder even after all his post-met-his-people Changeling exercises.

Edit: Did any other founder ever display an Odo-like face?

E2: Oh also it is explicitly mentioned that Odo modeled his face (and hair, conveniently enough) after Dr. Mora.

E3: And on that note, funny that he didn't even try to emulate Mora's nose crinkles. Stupid writers, not seeing far enough into future plotlines! :argh:

Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Sep 19, 2017

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:14

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Nessus posted:

And Odo isn't everyone else!

I'm saying he needs to get his poo poo together!

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:15

yeah actually they will: Aug 18, 2012

Hipster_Doofus posted:

Everyone else doesn't have a reason to maintain a specific appearance as a... as a, yechh, as a solid. Except for Salome Jens, who presumably (explicitly...? don't remember) appeared that way for Odo's sake. That's another reason I think it was an unspoken, but canon, reason why Odo didn't work at it harder even after all his post-met-his-people Changeling exercises.

Edit: Did any other founder ever display an Odo-like face?

E2: Oh also it is explicitly mentioned that Odo modeled his face (and hair, conveniently enough) after Dr. Mora.

Laas

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:19

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

I'm saying he needs to get his poo poo together!

Does Odo poo poo?

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vermin: Feb 28, 2017; Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up

I hope Dukat can be a stabilizing father figure in Kira's life

# ? Sep 19, 2017 21:22

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