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business hammocks posted:The best part of the pepe thing is all the comments explaining that Furie will lose because he doesn't understand how the internet works. I hope the chud gets his life destroyed forever. It's not like he's got much of a life to destroy, honestly. safely sodomized posted:and somehow baked alaska is hilariously dumber than the rest Somewhere in his ex-wife's basement, thernovitch hurls another empty bottle of grey market Chinese nootropics to the floor, furious that even a single whorl remains in his cerebellum.
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Best sign at the juggalo march was "dragnets, how do they work" also I arrived too late but apparently the pepes and iii%ers schismed again at the trump really that was there. Also there was a couple neckbeards dressed in anticom colors watching the juggalo rally from a distance and I pointed them out to an antifa group that was passing nearby 
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More on Pepe: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8gaa/pepe-the-frogs-creator-lawsuits-dmca-matt-furie-alt-right
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All the persecution complex idiots immediately thinking he's trying to keep folks from posting it on the internet is hysterical
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Ruzihm posted:Best sign at the juggalo march was "dragnets, how do they work" also I arrived too late but apparently the pepes and iii%ers schismed again at the trump really that was there.
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Al! posted:anticom is my favorite bunch of pathetic also rans because they just want to be antifa so badly
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:I read that the Proud Boys got thrown out of the Trump thing. Good lord do I need to read about this. Was it a news article or just one of their creepo hangout forums?
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business hammocks posted:If he's knocked out from a punch, he's got some non-trivial brain damage now. That's the thing that annoys me about these videos. Sure the guy is a dumbass and it's fun to see him put in his place but I'm not convinced giving him lifelong brain damage or massive medical bills is A Good Thing.
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Colonel J posted:That's the thing that annoys me about these videos. Sure the guy is a dumbass and it's fun to see him put in his place but I'm not convinced giving him lifelong brain damage or massive medical bills is A Good Thing. If there was a better way to deal with Nazism, I'd be all for it.
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Colonel J posted:That's the thing that annoys me about these videos. Sure the guy is a dumbass and it's fun to see him put in his place but I'm not convinced giving him lifelong brain damage or massive medical bills is A Good Thing. Yeah but there's a simple way to avoid these possible problems: don't be a nazi.
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Colonel J posted:That's the thing that annoys me about these videos. Sure the guy is a dumbass and it's fun to see him put in his place but I'm not convinced giving him lifelong brain damage or massive medical bills is A Good Thing. well if he has brain damage that makes him struggle to cope with society he might relate better to all of the people who he literally wants to murder
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Colonel J posted:That's the thing that annoys me about these videos. Sure the guy is a dumbass and it's fun to see him put in his place but I'm not convinced giving him lifelong brain damage or massive medical bills is A Good Thing. i used to think like this then i realized they're literally nazis
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he doesn't hold a difference of opinion about the way the government is supposed to be organized, he wants to murder millions of people, lets be very clear about this. i'd say the same thing about punching an Aum Shinrikyo in the face if i was some kind of japanese antifa (probably one of those cargo cult greaser guys)
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business hammocks posted:Good lord do I need to read about this. Was it a news article or just one of their creepo hangout forums? https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/909877810650505216 Oh hey: https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/909863837100277760 They served him via a placed ad in his local newspaper. This story has been an unfolding lesson in how to serve court docs to someone who doesn't want to be. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 21:00 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Colonel J posted:That's the thing that annoys me about these videos. Sure the guy is a dumbass and it's fun to see him put in his place but I'm not convinced giving him lifelong brain damage or massive medical bills is A Good Thing. quote:“The notion that you can somehow defeat violence by submitting to it is simply a flight from fact. As I have said, it is only possible to people who have money and guns between themselves and reality. But why should they want to make this flight, in any case? Because, rightly hating violence, they do not wish to recognise that it is integral to modern society and that their own fine feelings and noble attitudes are all the fruit of injustice backed up by force. They do not want to learn where their incomes come from. Underneath this lies the hard fact, so difficult for many people to face, that individual salvation is not possible, that the choice before human beings is not, as a rule, between good and evil but between two evils.” BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 21:13 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Colonel J posted:That's the thing that annoys me about these videos. Sure the guy is a dumbass and it's fun to see him put in his place but I'm not convinced giving him lifelong brain damage or massive medical bills is A Good Thing. Not to pile on you, but here's the thing about these takes and the "political violence is bad" takes: if it were 2015, how many people would be saying the same thing? At least in my general circles, the liberals and conservatives and all would think that this was funny as hell, because he's a loving Nazi. Now, it's seen as political violence, which implicitly means ceding ground to Nazism as a legitimate political view to contend with.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Though I said this is GBS, I can't get on board with the meme-ing and the orgy of celebration that happens after a Nazi gets punched. IMO it's like kicking someone when they're already down. It's like pissing on a corpse. You punch a Nazi when they're on their feet and intend (by being a Nazi) to do you harm. But once they're on the ground I try to resist taking pleasure in their further humiliation. That's just me. well you're wrong because unless you plan on shooting that nazi instead you haven't removed any nazis from the equation if you quietly punch one in an alley and nobody is there to see it
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like the point of punching and publicly humiliating nazis is so you don't have to kill or be killed by them later
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Al! posted:well you're wrong because unless you plan on shooting that nazi instead you haven't removed any nazis from the equation if you quietly punch one in an alley and nobody is there to see it
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Though I said this is GBS, I can't get on board with the meme-ing and the orgy of celebration that happens after a Nazi gets punched. IMO it's like kicking someone when they're already down. It's like pissing on a corpse. You punch a Nazi when they're on their feet and intend (by being a Nazi) to do you harm. But once they're on the ground I try to resist taking pleasure in their further humiliation. That's just me. Actually humiliating nazis is Cool and Good because it punctures their self-image as badass warriors fighting against the judeobolshevik menace something fierce. So basically if you hypothetically happen to punch out a nazi it would be even more effective to also piss on his face.
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apokaladle posted:Not to pile on you, but here's the thing about these takes and the "political violence is bad" takes: if it were 2015, how many people would be saying the same thing? At least in my general circles, the liberals and conservatives and all would think that this was funny as hell, because he's a loving Nazi. Now, it's seen as political violence, which implicitly means ceding ground to Nazism as a legitimate political view to contend with. I guess. I realize what I'm saying sounds like the most milktoast centrist high horse bad take possible. I find it funny too when nazis get punched but I just don't like to revel in violence. Maybe the problem comes from the fact that I don't actually see nazis as having legitimate political views, and thus I have trouble convincing myself they deserve more than being laughed at; punching them feels like giving them legitimacy kinda? Also I'm not American, I'm not very close to the problem and I'm from a rather subdued society and while we have our own supremacist movements gaining notoriety here, they're still viewed as fringe and violence against them gives them the high horse in the public's eye. Which isn't worth anything in terms of morality, of course. Colonel J has issued a correction as of 21:34 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Colonel J posted:I guess. I realize what I'm saying sounds like the most milktoast centrist high horse bad take possible. I find it funny too when nazis get punched but I just don't like to revel in violence. Al! posted:like the point of punching and publicly humiliating nazis is so you don't have to kill or be killed by them later
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:for me it's more a "rules of war" thing. even when we were killing nazis by the bushel there were some rules (unevenly enforced) about the fate of prisoners, wounded soldiers, sympathizers, etc. That's kind of how I'm feeling it too.  "You hit me then heal me?" "It's a vocation; we rescue all fighters regardless of their nationality."
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:for me it's more a "rules of war" thing. even when we were killing nazis by the bushel there were some rules (unevenly enforced) about the fate of prisoners, wounded soldiers, sympathizers, etc. the humiliation is the key component of the violence that turns others away from fascist action imo, and frankly thank god we have the internet so they can be humiliated relatively painlessly instead of needing to brand or cripple the nazis in some way
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:for me it's more a "rules of war" thing. even when we were killing nazis by the bushel there were some rules (unevenly enforced) about the fate of prisoners, wounded soldiers, sympathizers, etc. Rules of war only apply if both sides respect them, and if you want to see how much nazis actually respect rules of war, take a cursory glance at the Eastern Front. And the humiliation furthers the goal of neutering the nazi movement, yes.
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Al! posted:the humiliation is the key component of the violence that turns others away from fascist action imo, and frankly thank god we have the internet so they can be humiliated relatively painlessly instead of needing to brand or cripple the nazis in some way a friend of mine has richard spencer getting punched on a t-shirt. that's a bit far, yeah? well, at the least, it's probably not tactically smart to wear it when walking around on your lonesome. on par, i think the alt-right is worse in this regard. remember when nathan damigo punched the anti-fascist girl in the face? it was turned into a meme and spread constantly, and more recently on neo-nazi forums of jason fields' car, and of heather heyer's corpse. Cerebral Bore posted:Rules of war only apply if both sides respect them, and if you want to see how much nazis actually respect rules of war, take a cursory glance at the Eastern Front. and i'm still saying punch nazis. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 22:06 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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StashAugustine posted:basic rules of war like, say, "dont massacre civilians" still apply even if the other side refuses to respect them Well, I was speaking in the context of treatment of enemy soldiers, in which case reprisal actions are permissible if the other side breaches the laws of war first. And since nazis marching on the streets are not some kind of innocent bystanders in any way, any comparison to laws of war prohibiting attacks on civilians becomes absurd.
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*DJ Khaled voice* AND ANOTHER ONE https://twitter.com/2dAmMuslim/status/910223230786564096
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:being punched (on camera at that) is humiliating, too. i dunno. i'm wrestling with this, but my feeling is that there's a danger in losing yourself in this poo poo where it becomes personally unhealthy. like taking pictures posing with injured, beaten prisoners or corpses while smiling. i'm having a conversation with myself. lets turn it around then. what if nobody heard about richard spencer getting punched? would they still be on the back foot? or would they still be building up the head of steam that they had been building up before antifa helped normalize violence against them?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:*DJ Khaled voice* https://twitter.com/2dAmMuslim/status/910234187650797568 lmao thernovith gonna get his alimony garnished
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:being punched (on camera at that) is humiliating, too. i dunno. i'm wrestling with this, but my feeling is that there's a danger in losing yourself in this poo poo where it becomes personally unhealthy. like taking pictures posing with injured, beaten prisoners or corpses while smiling. i'm having a conversation with myself. Yeah. The bloodlust that comes from cheering on violence is inherently unhealthy and also shown to be addictive in the sense that once you start experiencing it you'll want more of it. Al! posted:lets turn it around then. what if nobody heard about richard spencer getting punched? would they still be on the back foot? or would they still be building up the head of steam that they had been building up before antifa helped normalize violence against them? They'd be worse off because they'd still be discredited by the Charlotesville thing but whataboutism would be harder and antifa would be thought of as more legitimate.
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lol how loving dumb do you have to be to think that the whole liberal both sides-ism is in any way linked to what antifa actually do?
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Cerebral Bore posted:lol how loving dumb do you have to be to think that the whole liberal both sides-ism is in any way linked to what antifa actually do? Well antifa do, in actuality, proudly commit acts of violence.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Well antifa do, in actuality, proudly commit acts of violence. Cerebral Bore posted:lol how loving dumb do you have to be to think that the whole liberal both sides-ism is in any way linked to what antifa actually do?
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