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StashAugustine posted:Considering changing my title in memoriam once rotation hits damnatio memoriae to yog point oh
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 21:08 |
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 21:14 |
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Oh man, looking at this and TD, and Steve + Doppleganger + Pheremones is hilarious. Throw on a Bank Job or two and baby you got a stew going.
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 23:23 |
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I think FFG must be reading my emails because below is a "Top 20 cards I’ll miss post-rotation" that I sent to friends a full year ago, with asterisks next to every card that has been saved. A full 14/20 of the cards have been saved from rotation, and all of the top nine! Good news for me. * 01) Caduceus * 02) Chaos Theory * 03) Indexing * 04) Project Vitruvius * 05) Ronin * 06) Dedicated Response Team * 07) Darwin * 08) Yagura * 09) Test Run 10) Eli 1.0 11) Fetal AI * 12) Trick of Light * 13) Bernice Mai * 14) Project Atlas 15) Janus 1.0 * 16) Braintrust 17) Shinobi * 18) Hive 19) Deep Thought 20) Subliminal Messaging AgentF fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Sep 13, 2017 |
# ? Sep 13, 2017 09:27 |
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I thought everyone agreed Brain Trust was the worst 3/2 by miles, why the love? E: oh because it's still a 3/2 General Battuta fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Sep 13, 2017 |
# ? Sep 13, 2017 14:38 |
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General Battuta posted:I thought everyone agreed Brain Trust was the worst 3/2 by miles, why the love? Yeah I'm kind of mad because if it rotated they could give Jinteki a good 3/2
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 15:11 |
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AgentF posted:I think FFG must be reading my emails because below is a "Top 20 cards I’ll miss post-rotation" that I sent to friends a full year ago, with asterisks next to every card that has been saved. A full 14/20 of the cards have been saved from rotation, and all of the top nine! Good news for CT not #1, shameful list.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 15:54 |
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Kaethela posted:CT not #1, shameful list. Chaos Theory herself would put Dinosaurus at #1.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 16:09 |
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Brofessor Slayton posted:Chaos Theory herself would put Dinosaurus at #1. This is a good point and the only reason CT at #2 would be acceptable.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 16:48 |
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I'm going to miss Fetal for sure, but there were a lot of good salvages. I would just like to see NBN not be an arguable best corp for a while. And I'd like to see Weyland actually be good at killing runner again.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 17:18 |
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:I think you're meant to deal meat damage in little chip-damage amounts, and snipe cards the runner needs later and/or force them to hold back cards they need to protect them. CS2 Weyland plays almost like a rigshooter deck. From the last page, but I wonder if they're just trying to have damage in general be chip instead of big burst. It's more manageable and interactive to have to deal with lots of small damage over time because you need to constantly manage it and worry about it. It also has a better chance of avoiding the problem new players run into of "Oh, you only have 4 cards in your hand and fewer credits than I do? I win then" after not taking any damage the whole game. If a player is constantly getting pegged with small amounts of damage, then even new players will understand that having a small hand is dangerous, and then they get the interesting decision of trying to balance game tempo with risking a flatline. Of course, they recently printed BOOM, so who the hell knows.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 18:03 |
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Karnegal posted:I'm going to miss Fetal for sure, but there were a lot of good salvages. I would just like to see NBN not be an arguable best corp for a while. And I'd like to see Weyland actually be good at killing runner again. In a similar vein, I'd like to see Anarch not the de facto best runner faction for once. e: CodfishCartographer posted:From the last page, but I wonder if they're just trying to have damage in general be chip instead of big burst. It's more manageable and interactive to have to deal with lots of small damage over time because you need to constantly manage it and worry about it. It also has a better chance of avoiding the problem new players run into of "Oh, you only have 4 cards in your hand and fewer credits than I do? I win then" after not taking any damage the whole game. If a player is constantly getting pegged with small amounts of damage, then even new players will understand that having a small hand is dangerous, and then they get the interesting decision of trying to balance game tempo with risking a flatline. To be fair, we are losing Breaking News, which means 24/7 BOOM! isn't a thing anymore. Getting two tags to stick will be a lot harder than it used to be.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 18:39 |
I'm excited to see Reina's new art.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 18:40 |
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Kaethela posted:In a similar vein, I'd like to see Anarch not the de facto best runner faction for once. Shaper might finally be the best faction for the first time in Netrunner history, which is sort of cool.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:04 |
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Prepaid Kate had a pretty good run from Lunar to late SanSan, no?
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:09 |
I thought Anarch was pretty weak up until around Order and Chaos where they went crazy. I remember the theme was basically you could get their best cards for little influence into other faction decks.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:24 |
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Hannibal Rex posted:Prepaid Kate had a pretty good run from Lunar to late SanSan, no? Prepaid Kate was basically The Best Runner until the MWL hit and really kneecapped her, if I remember right. Andromeda was the only other one that came close.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:26 |
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Prepaid's dominance roughly coincided with Anarch becoming good IIRC
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:28 |
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PPK was very good and popular, but I'm not sure it was ever the actual best deck. Even if it was, there were always very close contenders -- people seem to forget how dominant criminal, and especially andysucker, was. In any case, it seems like there might be a decent gap between core 2 shaper and the rest of the field. Shaper gets the best wincons (DDM and indexing, the latter actually getting better with jhow leaving) and two decks that were already quite good (Hayley lock and smoke) lost almost nothing, while pretty much every other runner lost major pieces. fomo sacer fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Sep 13, 2017 |
# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:30 |
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My impression was that shaper was always pretty solid tier 2, with anarchs trading top dog with criminal sometime between order and chaos and data and destiny?
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:32 |
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Anarch was hot, dirty garbage up until Faust came out and started a trend of shoveling ludicrously overpowered cards into the faction.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:34 |
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At some point in Anarch's dominance, Criminal kind of slipped into garbage territory for a while, too. I think around SanSan/Mumbad? They eventually scraped their way back, but there was almost never any reason to play Crim, since Anarch could pressure economy harder without needing to import all their breakers + R&D pressure.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 19:41 |
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Yeah criminal fell off when the first MWL hit. Losing 3 influence to desperado and then having limited tools to deal with IG and caprice/ash meant that they couldn't deal with most corps that weren't weyland. Once Temujin hit, they started gaining traction, and after aaron marron and TD they actually had some good tools. Sadly the game was also dominated by Sifr bullshit and people just started leaving. That being said, criminal with a desperado and a sec testing was second only to Whizzard for dealing with CTM bullshit during it's height. But crims didn't start seeing any real gains until MWL2.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 20:05 |
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Andy was utterly dominating for a long time and only started to lose some steam when Lotus Field made Yog non-viable as your only code gate solution. Crim only fell behind when they couldn't utilize Clot. Anarch lacked the basic card draw/tutoring to make use of all their power cards until IHW, but then they took off like a rocket during SanSan. PPK was probably the strongest after Clot, before Faust and pre-errata Pavilion.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 20:28 |
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Yeah Shaper had a time at top, and they've never been garbage tier, which is big.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 21:02 |
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I'm fairly certain they were the worst runner faction before C&C, but I didn't play that early.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 22:23 |
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Yithian posted:Anarch was hot, dirty garbage up until Faust came out and started a trend of shoveling ludicrously overpowered cards into the faction. A part of me will miss Virus Solitaire.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 00:31 |
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Are there any other good teaching decks besides these from TheBigBoy? Also curious if anyone has taken what will be the new core set starter decks for a spin yet.
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# ? Sep 18, 2017 03:08 |
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Cinnamon Bear posted:Are there any other good teaching decks besides these from TheBigBoy? Also curious if anyone has taken what will be the new core set starter decks for a spin yet. These ones are pretty good. A friend put them together solely from Core 2 cards for players new to the game. The deck description include thoughts about the deck includes as well as potential good matchups to run.
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# ? Sep 18, 2017 03:53 |
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Kaethela posted:These ones are pretty good. A friend put them together solely from Core 2 cards for players new to the game. The deck description include thoughts about the deck includes as well as potential good matchups to run. Thanks! I'll take those for a spin. I'm getting the itch to play again and thought I'd put together something to try and get some friends on board. I'm mostly just playing with my older collection (up through Order and Chaos), but I'm kind of thinking of grabbing a few more packs or at least the deluxes I'm missing (Data and Destiny/Terminal Directive). I'm curious though, if I don't really have any interest in NBN or the mini-factions, would I be okay just skipping D&D? And would it be much of an issue if I just skipped the SanSan/Mumbad/Flashpoint cycles? I normally want to go in order but I like the theme of Red Sands and want to try my hand at janky casual Jemison decks. Also, was looking around and came across this, which seems like they're possibly getting rid of MWL and just straight up banning and restricting cards.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 01:33 |
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Cinnamon Bear posted:Also, was looking around and came across this, which seems like they're possibly getting rid of MWL and just straight up banning and restricting cards. Given the source, this is probably legit. This is the same guy that also leaked (among other things) the MWL tier system. Friends being banned is probably the best thing about that list, holy poo poo.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 01:42 |
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I'll put it in an easier to read format, but actually this has me pretty excited if they're willing to shake things up this much.quote:With a new lead designer, who's also a completely new figure in the company, the hierachy within changes a bit, which basically means that higher-up FFG empoyees get to do a bit more poo poo, so the MWL is dead.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 01:48 |
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Bit of interesting insight from Damon, via Facebook:
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 01:55 |
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Sorry, I fell off the side of the internet for a few weeks but Midjack posted:Core 2 coincident with rotation will be nice.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 02:09 |
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If that banned list is true, crim is going to be hurting a lot. Their money will be a lot more limited without desperado, temujin and siphon and bloo moose at their disposal. With gang sign restricted, it's even going to be difficult to fisk lock a corp.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 02:23 |
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Banning film critic makes so many canards playable. It probably doesn't make them GOOD, but I'll at least get to have fun with them.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 02:28 |
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I don't believe that leak because nobody even plays Magnum Opus anymore, why would it need to go on a "pick 1 from these" list. EmpStrike getting put there with Film Critic makes me happy, though. Straight-up banning Bloo Moose was probably correct if that leak is legit, though. Card is straight busted in half.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 02:58 |
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If the banned and restricted lists are legit, I'll be excited to play the game for the first time in probably a year. Edit: it would also indicate that FFG is finally putting on their adult pants and acknowledging that they aren't perfect and some cards just need to go for the good of the game. Yithian fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Sep 20, 2017 |
# ? Sep 20, 2017 03:14 |
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Cinnamon Bear posted:I'll put it in an easier to read format, but actually this has me pretty excited if they're willing to shake things up this much. Not that he was any good in the first place, but I appreciate that Exile will reach a level below dumpster tier with that restricted list.
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# ? Sep 20, 2017 03:43 |
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Yithian posted:If the banned and restricted lists are legit, I'll be excited to play the game for the first time in probably a year. It really is about time FFG got serious about this poo poo.
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