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Magnus Praeda posted:I was going to post more in-depth about them later but I will say that I just got two Jinhao 159s from Goulet's BOGO sale and a Wing Sung 3008. The 3008 has a Lamy-style (knock off) nib in F and the 159s are both M #6 nibs. I've inked up the 3008 and one of the 159s and both of those have been writing quite well for the past week. I look forward to reading your in-depth bit, looking for something different/not super expensive.
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Got a pack of the Lanbitou 3059s in today. The bodies and piston mechanisms are actually better made than I expected. The piston seals up pretty well and once I added a little silicone grease it's actually pretty smooth. Nibs suck, though, so I'm going to completely regrind the tipping. Not bad for $2.50 a piece. Absolutely shameless ripoff of the Eco, though.
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Sep 21, 2017 02:13
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 Found these things at the local flea market today. Super cool Mucha tin (and my new pen box), a full bottle of Pelikan dip ink in the neat inkwell bottle and a little cheapie plastic dip pen with an oblique nib in it.
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Sep 21, 2017 02:42
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Heath posted:
Do Indian public schools still use dip pens?
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Sep 21, 2017 16:07
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No idea. I think they use fountain pens more widely in India than the US does, not sure about dip pens.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:56
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Would anybody be interested in trading something for a $20~ kuru toga plus some fancy art pencil leads? I had a good run with it, and I wouldn't mind giving it to an interested person via trade or sell.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:59
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The only people at work that noticed I was even using a fountain pen were from India or Pakistan, and that was all ages. I didn't really get too deep into their experience with it, but I can say at least some were using them in school ~20 years ago.
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Sep 21, 2017 20:19
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:The only people at work that noticed I was even using a fountain pen were from India or Pakistan, and that was all ages. I didn't really get too deep into their experience with it, but I can say at least some were using them in school ~20 years ago. India still uses them in schools today. Actually, that was one of the more odd things to me when I came to America for college - people were routinely submitting work to professors done up in pencil on the back of scrap paper. In Singapore, past a certain age in school no teacher would accept work in pencil; it's pens or bust. And you definitely would use a fresh sheet of paper rather than the cover sheet from your printouts and so on.
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Sep 22, 2017 02:17
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Kessel posted:India still uses them in schools today. To be honest in Canada you'd never see that pencil poo poo after probably grade 8 or so. Did you go to a liberal arts college?
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Sep 22, 2017 04:41
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gently caress that, if I had to do engineering homework in pen and not pencil I'd have to rewrite the drat thing like 30 times before I was done. Mechanical pencils 4 lyfe
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Sep 22, 2017 04:46
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VelociBacon posted:I look forward to reading your in-depth bit, looking for something different/not super expensive. Ask and ye shall receive: First up the 3008:   Of the three, this is probably my favorite. The piston mechanism is smooth and works really well--after my eyedropper Charlie, this holds the most ink of any pen in my stable. The nib, as I mentioned is a Lamy knock-off and the F is pretty much a Lamy F. It's very smooth and I haven't seen any skipping or hard starts in the week I've had it inked. I've got it inked up with Noodler's Nikita and I love how the red looks in the clear feed. I'm definitely thinking of ordering another couple of these. Now the 159s:   These are fatty cigars and have some significant heft--they look and feel like much more expensive pens than they are. They're both #6 M nibs and they're definitely a western M. A bit wider than I typically go for in my daily driver but nice if you're signing "important documents" or whatever. I've been using the black one at work inked up with (admittedly boring but work-appropriate) Pelikan Brilliant Black. I've gotten more comments about it than I have with other, more expensive pens I've brought to work with the possible exception of my VP (since that gets a "they make a clicky fountain pen!?" reaction from at least half the people that see it). I actually delayed this post primarily because I was waiting for the ink I bought for the orange one to arrive. Now it's inked with J. Herbin's Orange Indien (because I had to have an orange ink for an orange pen). And, of course, the writing sample page with my dumb block caps and stupid doodles:  Like any Chinese pen, ymmv as far as nib quality, etc. goes. But all three of these are writing very well and, at least for the last week, have been nice to carry around. The only thing I've noticed is the 3008 gets some slight condensation forming in the cap since it's been in my shirt pocket going in- and out-of-doors with the accompanying fluctuations in temperature and humidity. It doesn't really affect it in any way, though, and I'm sure my other pens get similar condensation but none of them are demonstrators. Kessel posted:India still uses them in schools today. VelociBacon posted:To be honest in Canada you'd never see that pencil poo poo after probably grade 8 or so. Did you go to a liberal arts college? At both of my liberal arts colleges (in the US), I was required to type all papers and bluebook exams had to be taken in blue or black ink. The one class I could use pencil for turned-in assignments was math. Either Kessel went to a school with much more lenient professors or just didn't see when those assignments were returned with "redo and resubmit" across the top. Even most of my high school teachers required typed work if it wasn't a worksheet or something.
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Sep 22, 2017 06:06
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I went to Purdue, which is very engineering-heavy, so I'm not surprised to hear that the professors were more lenient about these things.
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Sep 22, 2017 06:50
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Caran d'Ache 849 loving blows.
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Sep 22, 2017 18:26
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grack posted:Caran d'Ache 849 loving blows.  But they look so cool. What's wrong with it? Bad nib? lovely weight distribution?
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Sep 22, 2017 18:31
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Magnus Praeda posted:
The step down in the grip is really uncomfortable and it makes long writing sections unpleasant. I've also now seen two 849s (including mine!) where the tipping material was split so badly off-centre that they simply wouldn't write without considerable work to the nib.
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Sep 22, 2017 18:48
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Those stepped sections suck, its why I hated pilot metropolitan.
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Sep 22, 2017 20:13
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grack posted:Caran d'Ache 849 loving blows. Dammit, mine just got here! I was looking forward to picking it up after work. Second opinion/confirmation incoming I guess?
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Sep 22, 2017 21:08
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Well, hopefully your nib is less of a piece of crap than mine was.
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Sep 22, 2017 21:36
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Went to a Pelikan hub/pen meetup last night, holy poo poo some people have too much money. On the plus side I got to play with so many awesome pens, now I am super keen for the next one.
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Sep 23, 2017 01:47
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Noodler's flex pen really brings out the shading in a lot of inks, I'm really impressed. I've used it with normal nibs but was disappointed in the results. Here are a few samples on a rhodia dot pad.  
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Sep 23, 2017 04:18
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Premature posted:Went to a Pelikan hub/pen meetup last night, holy poo poo some people have too much money. On the plus side I got to play with so many awesome pens, now I am super keen for the next one. Maybe I could have mooched a cap off a rep. An M200 I found on the ground without a cap was what got me interested in fountain pens, but I refuse to pay €50 for a cap as a matter of principle. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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Sep 23, 2017 04:40
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Premature posted:Went to a Pelikan hub/pen meetup last night, holy poo poo some people have too much money. On the plus side I got to play with so many awesome pens, now I am super keen for the next one. Just got back from one tonight. You ain't wrong, but I can't really say much because I own like, 15 Deltas. Ink is better than last year, though, so that's nice.
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Sep 23, 2017 05:34
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Parasol Prophet posted:Dammit, mine just got here! I was looking forward to picking it up after work. The nib on mine is fine, and it's a good writer. I don't mind the step in the section. The thing that bugs me about mine is the barrel is a different, slightly-lighter shade of eye-watering orange than the cap. I didn't notice until I got it home, and it's bugging me more than I thought it would. I inked it with the included cart, and I'm looking forward to trying something like Jentle or Iroshizuku in it, with a smoother flow. I'm not wild about it, like I hoped to be, but I'm not sorry I bought it.
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That's good to hear, although that sucks about the color. That'd bug me to no end. My experience is about the same so far-- my nib was good, and it writes well overall (I got the EF and the pen itself is blue, incase that might have anything to do with this nib thing). I inked it with a cartridge of Diamine Midnight and the flow is excellent. The step doesn't bother me because I hold pens in a weird grip halfway up the barrel like a drat child. The only thing I don't like about mine is that the cap wobbles when posted, which makes the already-unbalanced pen feel even stranger. I guess i can always just not post the cap, but I like being able to do it because I'm paranoid about losing caps. So yeah, I like it but I don't love it as much as I wanted to. Ah well, I still think it'll be a good work/study writer!
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Sep 23, 2017 07:32
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Magnus Praeda posted:Ask and ye shall receive: Thanks for this. I might have to pick up one of these soon. Any cool and good recommendations here for a dark blue/purple/etc ink? I need to use it for charting in healthcare so I can't use anything that wouldn't photocopy/scan well.
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Sep 23, 2017 08:01
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I just bought a pilot parallel too, are there any good resources on calligraphy? I seem to recall some have been posted before and I checked the OP but couldn't see them.
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Sep 23, 2017 08:42
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VelociBacon posted:Thanks for this. I might have to pick up one of these soon. Noodler's 54th Mass. is my go-to blue ink. Pretty well behaved in any pen I put it in and it's got some lovely shading. I use it at work pretty regularly because it shows up well even in faxed documents.
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Sep 23, 2017 15:03
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VelociBacon posted:Thanks for this. I might have to pick up one of these soon. If you want something permanent KWZ Iron Gall Blue Black is my go to "professional" ink. Very well behaved on all the paper I've used it on.
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Megabound posted:If you want something permanent KWZ Iron Gall Blue Black is my go to "professional" ink. Very well behaved on all the paper I've used it on. Would Iron Gall inks be safe in a pilot metro? I know it's a cheap pen but I don't want to intentionally ruin it. e: is the Pilot Iroshizuku Tsuki-Yo dark enough in the flesh for professional writing? I love what I'm seeing from it. VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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Sep 23, 2017 15:46
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Yes, it's definitely dark enough.
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Premature posted:I just bought a pilot parallel too, are there any good resources on calligraphy? I seem to recall some have been posted before and I checked the OP but couldn't see them. This: https://www.amazon.com/Spencerian-Penmanship-Theory-Rogers-Spencer/dp/088062082X Plus the workbooks if you want to get started, depending how bad your handwriting is now.
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Premature posted:I just bought a pilot parallel too, are there any good resources on calligraphy? I seem to recall some have been posted before and I checked the OP but couldn't see them. With a parallel are you talking calligraphy as in cursive writing or calligraphy like the gothic style of lettering?
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VelociBacon posted:Would Iron Gall inks be safe in a pilot metro? I know it's a cheap pen but I don't want to intentionally ruin it. KWZs IG inks are really safe. Safe enough that I use them in my vintages without worry.
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VelociBacon posted:Any cool and good recommendations here for a dark blue/purple/etc ink? I need to use it for charting in healthcare so I can't use anything that wouldn't photocopy/scan well. Sailor Jentle Shigure
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Sep 23, 2017 23:55
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I'm happy with my cursive (mostly), I'm just looking for stuff like Gothic script. Anything big and ostentatious.
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I like Iron Gall and pigmented inks. The new formulations of IG inks are generally pretty safe (though heard KWZ IG can stain some demonstrators or something). I like Sei-Boku (Blue black and sheens) and Kiwa Guro pigmented inks. R&K Salix and Scabiosa are quite good too.
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Premature posted:I'm happy with my cursive (mostly), I'm just looking for stuff like Gothic script. Anything big and ostentatious. This looks like a good resource for learning gothic script
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A new pen arrived in the mail yesterday, Mabie Todd Swan with a No. 2 nib. No idea on year made, I think is older than my other Swan based on the clip style. Maybe pre 1935? Research is needed. e: Sources say early 1920s   
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Sep 26, 2017 22:47
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So as it turns out, pens are like pipes to me. I'm up to 4 now, though 2 of them require repairs before they can actually be used. I think I'm going to enjoy hitting up all my normal junk shops for pens now instead of just pipes. What's the thought on inkwells? A friend of mine is a ceramicist and suggested he would like to make me an inkwell, I think it would be fine and cool to have a custom inkwell. even if I don't use it.
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  And this is why you practice grinding nibs on cheap pens before you touch anything valuable, kiddies. Christ, it looks like it was ground by dragging it behind a pickup truck going down the highway.
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