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Hellblazer187 posted:"Human capital isn't actually a thing," - Forums Poster and Economic Genius Jizz Festival It isn't called Human Resources for nothing.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Democrats are so loving terrible at messaging. Why do they agree to use the phrase "right to work"? Nobody even blinks when Republicans say "death tax" instead of "estate tax". the democratic messaging that tests well is socialist as all hell the democrats do not wish to use that messaging, for an exciting array of justifications to move around saying "it's real bad for donations/post-congressional careers."
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Sep 20, 2017 15:32
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quote:So - my GF Consiladated all her Student Loans a few years ago. Everything was fine. Except, for whatever reason, there was a single loan that didn't get consiladated. No problem - she had it on a payment plan. Click this for hot reddit action and South Dakota rendering itself even more uninhabitable.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:36
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Office Pig posted:Click this for hot reddit action and South Dakota rendering itself even more uninhabitable. This is insane. Just loving insane.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:48
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Pembroke Fuse posted:This is insane. Just loving insane. No, it's good fiscal policy! 
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Sep 20, 2017 15:51
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Office Pig posted:Click this for hot reddit action and South Dakota rendering itself even more uninhabitable. This seems like a great way to discourage college grads from living in their state.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:52
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We need to brainstorm a scarier and more accurate name for what is currently called "Right to Work" and a better name for whatever the alternative is because I don't even know it.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:52
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The Kingfish posted:We need to brainstorm a scarier and more accurate name for what is currently called "Right to Work" and a better name for whatever the alternative is because I don't even know it. the alternative is "Unions Work" essentially, but good luck getting middle-class America on board with that message in TYOOL 2017. A better name for right to work is something like "right to work with union protections without paying the union, thereby weakening the union" but that's kind of a mouthful.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:55
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twice burned ice posted:No, it's good fiscal policy! Brownback is sitting back and applauding somewhere. Lowering taxes and regulations to draw in businesses while directly driving away their labor force is impressive. Usually it's the second order effects that drive talent away.
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Paracaidas posted:Usually it's the second order effects that drive talent away. Or walk away, as the case may be.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:56
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twice burned ice posted:the alternative is "Unions Work" essentially, but good luck getting middle-class America on board with that message in TYOOL 2017. "Right to Work for Less"
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Sep 20, 2017 15:56
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Taerkar posted:"Right to Work for Less" Unfortunately that's not accurate. Right to Work actually guarantees workers at union companies who refuse to join that union the same terms the union members get under their CBA. Right to Work doesn't actually harm wages until it successfully kills unions.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:59
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twice burned ice posted:the alternative is "Unions Work" essentially, but good luck getting middle-class America on board with that message in TYOOL 2017. We need to be as weaselly as possible. It probably shouldn't even have the word "union" in it.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:59
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The Kingfish posted:We need to brainstorm a scarier and more accurate name for what is currently called "Right to Work" and a better name for whatever the alternative is because I don't even know it. Clawing back compulsory union membership is probably one of the most impossible tasks faced by unions the world over, to be honest.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:00
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twice burned ice posted:Unfortunately that's not accurate. Right to Work actually guarantees workers at union companies who refuse to join that union the same terms the union members get under their CBA. It is very accurately stating the intended goal of the laws.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:01
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twice burned ice posted:the alternative is "Unions Work" essentially, but good luck getting middle-class America on board with that message in TYOOL 2017. If you're willing to call out voters for their parasitic desires, pretty much every anti-welfare message applies here. The problem you run into is the same reason why the GOP racially codes their anti-welfare schtick... you don't want to drive away potential voters while appealing to your base. "The only moral [x] is my [x]", etc. When a white conservative uses food stamps or UI, it's to get back on his feet after bad luck, not mooching off the system like those Cadillac driving welfare queens. Calling out the WWC for wanting to leech off of the labor of others without contributing any time or money of their own is usually the sort of messaging that is frowned upon in these parts.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:04
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Office Pig posted:Click this for hot reddit action and South Dakota rendering itself even more uninhabitable. Holy poo poo. If an arsonist runs for president in 2020, I'm voting for them. Burn it all to the loving ground, preferably with the rest of the Boomers locked inside. They have royally hosed our generation.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:04
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Taerkar posted:"Right to Work for Less" Too liberal, need to make it punchy. Hostage Work Employer welfare Just "Work for Less" Counter Proposals should be named New Deal Work Freedom Personal Liberty Tax Fairness.
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https://hopenothate.com/ https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/opinion/alt-right-white-supremacy-undercover.html quote:Undercover With the Alt-Right (read the full article, watch the videos as well.) quote:As video Hermansson provided to the New York Times shows, he got one of the group’s highest-ranking members — Alt-Right Corporation board member Jason Reza Jorjani — to admit his “final solution” for minorities.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:09
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The Kingfish posted:We need to brainstorm a scarier and more accurate name for what is currently called "Right to Work" and a better name for whatever the alternative is because I don't even know it. Workers Rights vs. Right to Fire
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Sep 20, 2017 16:13
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quote:“It’s gonna end with the expulsion of the majority of the migrants, including [Muslim] citizens,” Jorjani told an undercover Hermansson at a pub near the Empire State Building in New York City. “It’s gonna end with concentration camps and expulsions and war at the cost of This guy wants to make the holocaust look like amateur hour.
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a few hundred million people.
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Chilichimp posted:Workers Rights vs. Right to Fire Right to Fire is At-Will Employment, not right to work.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:14
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Taerkar posted:It is very accurately stating the intended goal of the laws. It's stating the distant effect, not the immediate goal or the mechanism. It oughta be something like Jared Laws. Y'all know Jared, right? That lazy jerk who comes in at the end of the project and takes the credit without doing any work? The guy who keeps getting raises because he married the owner's daughter, but everyone else always has to do more work to fix what he breaks? Have any of you ever seen Jared work for two consecutive hours? Has he ever been in at 9? When was the last time he still at his desk at 3, much less 5? Governor Lafferite and his cronies in the legislature are defending the laws that let Jared get paid more than his coworkers while still getting better insurance, sick leave, PTO, and job security than most other Stateonians. Tell them you won't stand for it. This November, say no to Jared. Because here in State, we work hard. We look out for each other and we're all in this together.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:14
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That people think you can reason these guys out of wanting to reenact the Holocaust is the most supreme hubris.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:20
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I will never understand how you can have this giant hard on for the magical purity of the Aryan race, and then list your all time favorite Aryan leaders as Hitler, a Corsican, and a Greek.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:23
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twice burned ice posted:Right to Fire is At-Will Employment, not right to work. "right to work" and "at-will-employment" go hand-in-hand in the case of Georgia, and I assumed everywhere.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:26
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Chilichimp posted:"right to work" and "at-will-employment" go hand-in-hand in the case of Georgia, and I assumed everywhere. Not even close. Every state in the US, except Montana, is at-will employment. Only about half are right to work.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:27
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Radish posted:That people think you can reason these guys out of wanting to reenact the Holocaust is the most supreme hubris. did you watch the videos? there is literally a scene where they are sitting in (i think) a hotel lobby, talking about how to approach "the jewish question, or, the jewish problem". the solution is, of course, ethnic cleansing. i want to slap every moron in the face with that documentary who says thinks like this: https://twitter.com/chadfelixg/status/910287864088420352
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Sep 20, 2017 16:31
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twice burned ice posted:Unfortunately that's not accurate. Right to Work actually guarantees workers at union companies who refuse to join that union the same terms the union members get under their CBA.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:32
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Not even close. That had always been sold to me as a trade-off... you can quit whenever you want for any reason, but they can fire you whenever they want for any reason. I need to do some researchin'!
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Chilichimp posted:That had always been sold to me as a trade-off... you can quit whenever you want for any reason, but they can fire you whenever they want for any reason. This is just absurd. In no way should corporate agency and personal agency be treated as equal needs. Capital has all the systemic advantages as it is, without ridiculous ideas of giving 'equal rights' to workers and their employers. A worker should always have the ability to quit for any reason at any time. That's individual liberty.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:35
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Chilichimp posted:That had always been sold to me as a trade-off... you can quit whenever you want for any reason, but they can fire you whenever they want for any reason. At-will Employment = You can quit employment at any time with no penalty and your employer can fire you for any reason that is not against state/federal employment law. Right To Work = You cannot be forced to join a union for a job or pay union dues for any reason unless you do so voluntarily. No employers can establish "union shops" where you need to be a member of a union to work there. If a union exists in a workplace, then they have to provide basic services for all employees, but they cannot require any employees to pay union dues.
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botany posted:did you watch the videos? there is literally a scene where they are sitting in (i think) a hotel lobby, talking about how to approach "the jewish question, or, the jewish problem". the solution is, of course, ethnic cleansing. This Chad guy isn't even a useless "both sides" idiot. He's a straight up fascist using those people's insipid notion that nazi speech isn't violent to attack minorities by equivocating them to nazis. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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Sep 20, 2017 16:36
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botany posted:did you watch the videos? there is literally a scene where they are sitting in (i think) a hotel lobby, talking about how to approach "the jewish question, or, the jewish problem". the solution is, of course, ethnic cleansing. I just don't understand why so many people are desperate to live side by side with Nazis.
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Gyges posted:I just don't understand why so many people are desperate to live side by side with Nazis. Because they are the Nazis.
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botany posted:https://hopenothate.com/ loving Christ. Like, we've all known these people are utter monsters, but to hear them state it so openly is absolutely loving chilling.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:41
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:At-will Employment = You can quit employment at any time with no penalty and your employer can fire you for any reason that is not against state/federal employment law. Thanks, Trots. Man, forcing unions to provide their services to every employee regardless of dues status is pretty loving cynical.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:42
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Gyges posted:I just don't understand why so many people are desperate to live side by side with Nazis. in this case, his career consists entirely of concern trolling people critical of anti-semitism and homophobia/transphobia. if he were to admit that they are actually problems, he'd be out of a job.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:44
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botany posted:https://hopenothate.com/ here's what Jason Reza Jorjani looks like 
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Chilichimp posted:Thanks, Trots. Man, forcing unions to provide their services to every employee regardless of dues status is pretty loving cynical. It is an incredibly clever way of destroying unionism while letting them continue to function in providing benefits to employees until the point they stop existing, yes. Contrary to what most people here believe Liberals are loving smart, in addition to hating the poor!
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