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thepokey
Jul 20, 2004

Let me start off with a basket of chips. Then move on to the pollo asado taco.
Even though Heppell was at the unvail of the AFL "yes" sign yesterday, I'm disappointed Essendon come out with an unequivocal YES statement. But I'd be far more disappointed and angry if they came out with a half assed statement like Carlton which screams the same message as Turnbull "we want to support YES but only if it doesn't hinder us in any way, shape or form".

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drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Carlton said they support the campaign but not enough to unequivocally say yes, which is pretty poor form given we have the Australian sex discrimination comissioner (kate jenkins) as a board member.

Plus we have multiple players in our womens team who are openly gay and many players from the mens and womens sides already showing support over the past few months, the club should have backed them up.

At least the supporter pride group accepts the clubs position:
https://twitter.com/PRIDECARLTON/status/910423644928479232

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

thepokey posted:

I'm disappointed Essendon come out with an unequivocal YES statement.

Wat

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
AFL House has been evacuated and the police have closed off a section of harbour esplanade.

Someone has made a threat, nice work bigots.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe
Lemme go check what bigfooty has to sa- :yikes:

Chifley
Nov 4, 2009

Pretty sure this is just a typo from thepokey and they mean "hasn't"; the article I read today listed only: Dogs, Roos, Pies, Swans, and Saints as the only teams who've made a statement for YES.

Most clubs are silent, Carlton is actively poo poo.

061469
Mar 2, 2005

OPTIC BLAST!
I'm gay and I gotta say I admire the extreme bravery of anyone willing to share that they are pro SSM in 2017 when the majority of people already agree with you.
Thank you, AFL. You're as loyal to the cause as all of the Richmond fans who've recently jumped on their bandwagon.

I can only hope that as it's gets even easier to advocate for SSM and even more people support it, the AFL will become even more outspoken.
Brave.

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

061469 posted:

I'm gay and I gotta say I admire the extreme bravery of anyone willing to share that they are pro SSM in 2017 when the majority of people already agree with you.

drunkill posted:

AFL House has been evacuated and the police have closed off a section of harbour esplanade.

Someone has made a threat, nice work bigots.

Good timing jackass

Chifley
Nov 4, 2009
Hawks have joined Carlton in the strictly neutral boat. In the trash with them too!

Suns Giants and Cats joined team yes.

061469
Mar 2, 2005

OPTIC BLAST!

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Good timing jackass

Yeah. Already read that.
And that it was a hoax.

Am I wrong? Was it not a hoax?

Is supporting SSM not the majority position anymore?
Happy to be corrected.

I know that SSM is topical for right now for a range of reasons, but I'd really like to know what all AFL clubs think about climate change.

Chifley posted:

Hawks have joined Carlton in the strictly neutral boat. In the trash with them too!

Suns Giants and Cats joined team yes.
Oh yeah?

Hawthorn posted:

"...Hawthorn Football Club embraces and welcomes all people, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexuality or cultural background....The club celebrates diversity and demands equality..."
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-09-19/hawthorn-embraces-all

Carlton posted:

"...we strongly reinforce our Club's absolute commitment to equality - and a community that is free from any form of discrimination."
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-09-20/carlton-statement

What disgusting hatred!
GET THE PITCHFORKS!

061469 fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Sep 21, 2017

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

061469 posted:

Yeah. Already read that.
And that it was a hoax.

Am I wrong? Was it not a hoax?


Pretty sure I'd be pretty loving scared if my building were evacuated due to a bomb threat, real or no.

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

But please, keep being a sarcastic prick about a corporation actually doing a good thing.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...
Here's the full Hawthorn statement for those too stupid to understand that anything short of explicit support of a yes vote is weak bullshit designed to not piss off bigots. Not that there is anyone in this thread that would be too stupid to understand that.

quote:

Hawthorn Football Club embraces and welcomes all people, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexuality or cultural background.

The club celebrates diversity and demands equality, and also respects the rights of individuals to make their own personal choices and form their own opinions.

Hawthorn sees its role as providing an environment of respect, diversity and inclusivity where people can embrace their differences and unite in their love of the club and the game of AFL.

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Basically they're poo poo because they are trying not to alienate anyone but are instead looking terrified of taking a stance.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

Periphery posted:

Here's the full Hawthorn statement for those too stupid to understand that anything short of explicit support of a yes vote is weak bullshit designed to not piss off bigots. Not that there is anyone in this thread that would be too stupid to understand that.

Weak as piss, Hawks.

At least we have this:


*note the extremely conspicuous lack of Hawthorn attire.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011
I demand a rainbow harlequin jumper to make this all better :colbert:

boy undead
Nov 11, 2006

time to get prolific with
the whiz kid
Bomb hoaxes are just part of our nation's respectful debate.

:discourse:

061469
Mar 2, 2005

OPTIC BLAST!

realbez posted:

Weak as piss, Hawks.

At least we have this:


*note the extremely conspicuous lack of Hawthorn attire.

Extremely conspicuous lack of Hawthorn attire?
Are you kidding?

Please note the lack of club or company logos on any person at this shoot:


*note the lack of a tinfoil hat on my head

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

061469 posted:

Extremely conspicuous lack of Hawthorn attire?
Are you kidding?

Please note the lack of club or company logos on any person at this shoot:

*note the lack of a tinfoil hat on my head

Agreed, it is very conspicuous that none of those people have club attire on when normally they aren't photographed in public without it.

What is wrong with you?

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

loving hell some of the Facebook comments by people who think:

- The AFL has gone week for supporting the "poofters". Bonus points for when others point out to them that nearly every major sporting league in Australia has supporting the Yes vote, making the moron even more upset.
- People who think it is an attack on religion
- "Why is the AFL getting political?" as if marriage equality is a political issue
- Arseholes who openly post images of people dressed up in dildos or putting up same sex porn and saying this will be commonplace after the Yes vote

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe
The bigfooty thread has people worrying that the next step is pedophilia and/or bestiality becoming mainstream.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Can't wait for Sam Newman's hot take.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

realbez posted:

The bigfooty thread has people worrying that the next step is pedophilia and/or bestiality becoming mainstream.

It wouldn't surprise me if most of the Bay 13 posters are already into both

061469
Mar 2, 2005

OPTIC BLAST!

realbez posted:

Agreed, it is very conspicuous that none of those people have club attire on when normally they aren't photographed in public without it.

What is wrong with you?

I suppose Ben Brown isn't wearing any North logos because his club also wants to avoid an association with the "yes" vote, right?
Oh, wait...

NMFC posted:

"The North Melbourne Football Club writes to express its support for marriage equality..."
- http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2017-09-19/north-supports-marriage-equality

My point is that it's a little unfair to read into Clarko's lack of club logos on his outfit when nobody at the photoshoot is wearing any club logos.
Including people who come from clubs that have communicated their absolute support of SSM in no uncertain terms.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

061469 posted:

I suppose Ben Brown isn't wearing any North logos because his club also wants to avoid an association with the "yes" vote, right?
Oh, wait...

My point is that it's a little unfair to read into Clarko's lack of club logos on his outfit when nobody at the photoshoot is wearing any club logos.
Including people who come from clubs that have communicated their absolute support of SSM in no uncertain terms.

Maybe, but to me that whole photo screams "the opinion expressed here is that of the individual, and not necessarily that of their organisations!" Ben not wearing colours only reinforces that. Clarkson is rarely seen in a media photo op without Hawthorn colours on. That makes it noticeable (conspicuous).

I don't know why you're so annoyed that people and organisations are coming out in support of SSM now, while the topic is in the spotlight. I don't see why it is bad to declare support for it now just because you hadn't explicitly done it already.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

061469 posted:

I suppose Ben Brown isn't wearing any North logos because his club also wants to avoid an association with the "yes" vote, right?
Oh, wait...


My point is that it's a little unfair to read into Clarko's lack of club logos on his outfit when nobody at the photoshoot is wearing any club logos.
Including people who come from clubs that have communicated their absolute support of SSM in no uncertain terms.


My guess is the lack of club gear in the photoshoot has got nothing to do with the clubs, and everything to do with the half dozen sponsors on club polo shirts and not wanting to bother to get their okay with saying "Yes".

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...
What if the Saints don't really support marriage equality and the LGBTQI community but just really like rainbow uniforms?!

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Spedman posted:

My guess is the lack of club gear in the photoshoot has got nothing to do with the clubs, and everything to do with the half dozen sponsors on club polo shirts and not wanting to bother to get their okay with saying "Yes".

Yeah I think this is more likely

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

NTRabbit posted:

Yeah I think this is more likely

While yeah, its more likely its also pretty piss weak.

"We are all for marriage equality, but only as long as we dont have to make a bunch of phone calls and actually put some effort beyond a photoshoot in"

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




NPR Journalizard posted:

While yeah, its more likely its also pretty piss weak.

"We are all for marriage equality, but only as long as we dont have to make a bunch of phone calls and actually put some effort beyond a photoshoot in"

Or maybe they did make phonecalls and some sponsors said no, and wearing club gear with a third of the logos selectively covered in electrical tape was a bad look

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

NTRabbit posted:

Or maybe they did make phonecalls and some sponsors said no, and wearing club gear with a third of the logos selectively covered in electrical tape was a bad look

Covering them up with rainbow tape would be pretty loving appropriate imo.

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




It is super weird reading a thread full exclusively of people who firmly agree on the subject of same sex marriage attacking each other over the subject of same sex marriage.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Chairchucker posted:

It is super weird reading a thread full exclusively of people who firmly agree on the subject of same sex marriage attacking each other over the subject of same sex marriage.

Welcome to the left, loving splitter

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Chairchucker posted:

It is super weird reading a thread full exclusively of people who firmly agree on the subject of same sex marriage attacking each other over the subject of same sex marriage.

Learn to read

We're arguing over faceless corporation's response to same sex marriage

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




SPLITS

In football news McGovern has been ruled out, rip us if we pick Otten or Milera to replace him

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Also don't have this thread and the Doctor Who thread open at the same time - I just read someone defending the BF forums but was quite relieved to figure out they were talking about Big Finish and not Big Footy.

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




abolish marriage imo

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

NTRabbit posted:

SPLITS

In football news McGovern has been ruled out, rip us if we pick Otten or Milera to replace him

Ah, gently caress. He's a consistent marking forward. Quick, someone sit Cameron down and force him to agree to not taking a shot at goal until he's 3 metres out.

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




You leave my dude Charlie alone

EDIT: He kicked p badly against GWS tho

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Apr 5, 2017

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My boy Troy Menzel is ready.

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