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quiggy posted:I didn't realize this until right now but I really want a game that plays like XCOM but you're the head of STARS instead. I want a reverse of this; a dungeon keeper/evil genius style game where I release hosed up monsters on squads of tacticool dudes 
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I was always hoping for a "Play as EXALT" dlc.
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Sep 21, 2017 16:19
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I kind of want to pick up War of the Chosen and there are some good 15% off deals for it right now. But I can't really find anything substantial for the Season Pass DLC pack so I would have to pay at least $15 for it. That is kind of keeping me away from getting anything because of FOMO. Please tell me if the DLC is good enough to get at that price, or alternatively, if it is bad enough that I am not missing out and should just get WOTC
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Sep 21, 2017 16:20
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Anarchy's Children is some really bad dressup parts and Alien Hunters has a very ... mixed reception, to put it generously. Vanilla + WotC is perfectly fine. Shen's Last Gift is decent but SPARKs are just a touch too expensive (in-game, I mean) for what they bring to the table.
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Sep 21, 2017 16:22
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Sapozhnik posted:Anarchy's Children is some really bad dressup parts and Alien Hunters has a very ... mixed reception, to put it generously. Anarchy's Children owns, sorry you suck
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Sep 21, 2017 16:41
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Alien Hunters + WOTC gives you some new items to build that are  and 3 big monsters to pester you that are basically like the beta version of the Chosen. Shen's Last Gift + WOTC lets you build SPARKs and that's it, and SPARKs are nice but also stupid expensive in the game.I actually like the dress up DLCs better, as silly as they are.
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Sep 21, 2017 16:52
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Mindshields and focus fire. Assess the biggest threat and kill it. Also, flashbangs will end mind control and prevent enemies from using abilities for a turn, including melee. Always be flashbanging. I think the person you're talking to here is talking about the Spectre thing, the cloud that's a person that "kills" a unit and brings it back as on their side. And I paid £7.99 for the lot of the DLC and it definitely wasn't worth it. War of the Chosen is expensive but at least it feels like it brings a decent amount of things into the game. Alien Rulers and SHEN are just annoying for no reason at all.
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Sep 21, 2017 16:52
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Did overwatch aim get nerfed? I've read about its current stats on the Wiki but I don't remember missing shots this much in vanilla. It's painful when you spring a great ambush and all these idiots miss the mark.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:02
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snoremac posted:Did overwatch aim get nerfed? I've read about its current stats on the Wiki but I don't remember missing shots this much in vanilla. It's painful when you spring a great ambush and all these idiots miss the mark. Overwatch has always had a penalty, but Overwatch (Concealed) shouldn't. If you're missing shots there, it's just lovely luck, probably.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:04
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don't be like me and install custom skin mods without checking whether it changes the models themselves first because apparently that will just gently caress your poo poo right up when everyone upgrades to plate armor and turn into Raymen with floating arms or torsos that don't connect with the legs and apparently you can never uninstall it even when you turn it off in the dlc menu so you have to spend 20 minutes fixing your soldiers one by one.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:05
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Princeps32 posted:don't be like me and install custom skin mods without checking whether it changes the models themselves first because apparently that will just gently caress your poo poo right up when everyone upgrades to plate armor and turn into Raymen with floating arms or torsos that don't connect with the legs and apparently you can never uninstall it even when you turn it off in the dlc menu so you have to spend 20 minutes fixing your soldiers one by one. Sorry your big titty anime school girls aren't compatible with plates armor.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:11
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Does the Suppress debuff go away if the target moves? Scrapping this Veteran run because I can't get enough cores for mech army Also- why swords ever? The shotgun has a much better crit chance
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Sep 21, 2017 17:17
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Princeps32 posted:don't be like me and install custom skin mods without checking whether it changes the models themselves first because apparently that will just gently caress your poo poo right up when everyone upgrades to plate armor and turn into Raymen with floating arms or torsos that don't connect with the legs and apparently you can never uninstall it even when you turn it off in the dlc menu so you have to spend 20 minutes fixing your soldiers one by one. It's annoying that when I just want to make my guys look like tacticool operators my only options are "MODELS FROM SIEGE/COD/MGS" packs that do nothing but break things. They either look like Rayman like you said or black textures. The only decent ones I've found are the Grim Style Armor (which just changes where camo is applied to make it make more sense on the standard armor) and the Section 9 pack (Ghost in the Shell armor, surprisingly good looking). I want to like Stenchfury's modular armor packs, but I never end up using them because they just look like chunky off-brand Master Chief with constant clipping through itself. Although it's funny when rookies show up with random helmet parts from it.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:18
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It does feel strange that the chosen do not comment on you killing an Avatar.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:21
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Bobcats posted:Does the Suppress debuff go away if the target moves? Yes - the debuff goes away. Swords are great with upgrades and new abilities and useful when your shotgun hit % is low.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:25
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There is something to say about a Blademaster Ranger with the katana being able to kill infinite chryssalids
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Swords are good early game for killing Sectoids and late game with the Katana but pretty mediocre in between those two points.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:40
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I know people say SPARKs are too expensive but I just feel like they haven't used one as a point man with that "33% chance to take a reaction shot against uncovered enemies" perk. I've marched a SPARK into a pod and watched as it systematically destroyed every enemy inside of that pod and holy poo poo it's just so good. Also they never get tired and Overdrive is also loving strong. Shooting the warlock in the face three times on your turn is also very good. (Or twice and a rocket, to offset the stacking aim penalty.)
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potaties posted:I know people say SPARKs are too expensive but I just feel like they haven't used one as a point man with that "33% chance to take a reaction shot against uncovered enemies" perk. I've marched a SPARK into a pod and watched as it systematically destroyed every enemy inside of that pod and holy poo poo it's just so good. Also they never get tired and Overdrive is also loving strong. Shooting the warlock in the face three times on your turn is also very good. (Or twice and a rocket, to offset the stacking aim penalty.) Not to mention they shred armor
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Sep 21, 2017 17:43
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Also STOMP STOMP STOMP.
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I've got a permanent lost dark event and its making me want to not continue. They aren't even a threat they just make every mission take longer.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:58
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Sparks are literally tireless war machines. Why wouldn't you upgrade a unit that can be fielded every mission after you get them?
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Sep 21, 2017 18:00
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temple posted:Sparks are literally tireless war machines. Why wouldn't you upgrade a unit that can be fielded every mission after you get them? Because they're a bit poo poo compared to every other soldier and it costs a fuckton to upgrade them. It's worth having the free one from Shen's Last Gift and one other at least as an emergency backup if something catastrophic happens but I rarely use them. Does the price on the first SPARK drop if you integrate the dlc?
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RBA Starblade posted:Because they're a bit poo poo compared to every other soldier and it costs a fuckton to upgrade them.
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temple posted:Sparks are more robust than regular soldiers in every conceivable way. I wouldn't make a team of them and I doubt anyone has ever suggested that. Having one is enough and worth it. All they lack is a PCS and item slot. Agreed entirely. I used one to be mobile cover + lots of free Overwatch + Overdrive murder + Always being there. Like, I had one go a dozen missions in a row.
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The Lost really do bog things down late game. Sometimes they move as a swarm and it totally works, but then something happens and the AI can't do them all at once and you have to watch every one of 10 zombies move a couple meters forward and stop. Just did my first Chosen the other night. Three turn KO on the Hunter from when we dropped into his chamber, and that was with me forgetting that the first codex you skullmine drops an Avatar on you. Ironman commander and the victory lap phase is satisfying but man do I fell OP. My only real regret in this run is not planning my bonds well. My PSI, Templar, and Skirmisher are all bonded with grenadiers and i can justify taking two of those along because they're death machines but three heavies is kinda too many. PSI - Templar - Skirmisher - Heavy - Heavy - Specialist is my A team and I wish I had a ranger in there.
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Got a savant specialist with Run n Gun, Rapid Fire and Untouchable (and blast padding).  Davies, we are going to kill you a warlock!
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Wow I've never had a savant. just genius can you increase their intelligence to savant through covert ops? MacheteZombie fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 18:58
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Yeah, I got a savant as one of the people you can rescue hanging out in a VIP mission -- she came in at SGT? with 30 soldier XP in the bank already too. She might have been a CPL, it was a pretty early mission.
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temple posted:Sparks are more robust than regular soldiers in every conceivable way. I wouldn't make a team of them and I doubt anyone has ever suggested that. Having one is enough and worth it. All they lack is a PCS and item slot. Don't they also lack the ability to add additional abilities though XCom points? I wanted to give my Spark Bulwark and Adaptive Aim, but couldn't figure out how.
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ulmont posted:Don't they also lack the ability to add additional abilities though XCom points? I wanted to give my Spark Bulwark and Adaptive Aim, but couldn't figure out how. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1123345891&searchtext=spark
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Rotten Red Rod posted:It's annoying that when I just want to make my guys look like tacticool operators my only options are "MODELS FROM SIEGE/COD/MGS" packs that do nothing but break things. They either look like Rayman like you said or black textures. The only decent ones I've found are the Grim Style Armor (which just changes where camo is applied to make it make more sense on the standard armor) and the Section 9 pack (Ghost in the Shell armor, surprisingly good looking). This pack (and its tons of dependencies) will make your guys look very tacticool and don't break models horribly in my experience. They do eat up a lot of RAM though. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1133246206
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ulmont posted:Don't they also lack the ability to add additional abilities though XCom points? I wanted to give my Spark Bulwark and Adaptive Aim, but couldn't figure out how. Honestly, bulwark is good but I prefer adaptive aim. "Defense through offense" kind of thing. Using sparks for cover is good but there is the edge case of getting grenaded that you have to worry about it. Plus, my sparks usually hold a flank alone while the rest fight in a different direction. A lot of enemies will shoot past the spark. Its weird but then you flank them and clean up. Its pretty hard to get advent to target a spark when soldiers are in LOS.
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I'm probably way late to the party here but does anyone know why XCom 2 runs like dog poo poo on the xbone? And is there any way to get it to run more smoothly?
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SilkyP posted:I'm probably way late to the party here but does anyone know why XCom 2 runs like dog poo poo on the xbone? And is there any way to get it to run more smoothly? Throw away the Xbone
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is it random luck that I've had every Chosen attack every four or five missions in their turf since the last time I killed them? It seems like I can predict it fairly accurately based on that, even without the shadow chamber as a hint.
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My problem with Sparks is I can't figure out a good time to roll them out on legend. Alloys are super tight in the early-mid game so building one is an issue and then you have to upgrade its gear too. You could make one later but then it shows up vastly underlevled. I really miss the free spark you used to get.Moola posted:I want a reverse of this; a dungeon keeper/evil genius style game where I release hosed up monsters on squads of tacticool dudes lol what is this from?
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Internet Kraken posted:My problem with Sparks is I can't figure out a good time to roll them out on legend. Alloys are super tight in the early-mid game so building one is an issue and then you have to upgrade its gear too. You could make one later but then it shows up vastly underlevled. I really miss the free spark you used to get. You still get the Free Spark if you don't integrate the DLC.
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Internet Kraken posted:My problem with Sparks is I can't figure out a good time to roll them out on legend. Alloys are super tight in the early-mid game so building one is an issue and then you have to upgrade its gear too. You could make one later but then it shows up vastly underlevled. I really miss the free spark you used to get. My next game I think will be Commander again but with Integrated DLC on, templar hq start (I love them the most) and grim horizon and I don't know when before the victory lap I'd even be able to scrounge the alloys, cores (my shredder guns!) and cash together for a SPARK. It'd be a huge cut into soldier upgrades, not to mention having to buy the frost grenades and shadow caster (could take or leave the bolt caster at this point, with how much else there is to play with). quote:You still get the Free Spark if you don't integrate the DLC. Just be prepared to have six people take a nap after. My SLG mission was insanely close; the Sectopod caught me by surprise with the AP change, and the SPARK survived with 1 hp. It took 40 days to repair. 
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Internet Kraken posted:lol what is this from?
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