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That Volskaya Foundry showmatch has started: https://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes
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Mierenneuker posted:That Volskaya Foundry showmatch has started: https://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes The robot doesn't look too stupidly strong like it seemed in the video so that's cool. Though it's only 4 minutes I imagine the robot gets stronger the further the game goes. Lucio wallriding around the conveyor belts taunting the other team is pretty funny
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Sep 21, 2017 18:20
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 if you have Amazon Prime, you get a free legendary loot box Claim it here: https://twitch.amazon.com/prime/loot/heroes if you don't yet have Twitch connected to Amazon and Blizzard, there are links there to do so. The claim button is at the bottom of the screen, this time you don't have to copy/paste a code, so that's nice. Here's a warning that might be important for some of you: the loot box applies to only the first region you log in on first, so if you have been dicking around on second regions log back to your main before you get your prime loot. You have until the end of September to get it, but get it today so you don't forget. Don't open it until Ana goes live, if that's your thing. fake edit: boooo eye of horus on that showmatch  e: just lol if you don't know ordf BrianBoitano fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 18:25
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The Garrosh player said "Goddamnit ordf" and chat is like LOL ORDF like it's a common known thing. What the gently caress is ordf
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Sep 21, 2017 18:27
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Macaluso posted:The Garrosh player said "Goddamnit ordf" and chat is like LOL ORDF like it's a common known thing. What the gently caress is ordf ORDF is very well known, but kind of a long story. The story begins, really, with the CKAN software, which provides a metadata registry for catalogueuing datasets. It is a traditional Pylons application with a SQL back-end and all the usual models and controllers and such. The basic design pattern would be familiar to anyone who has ever used a MVC framework such as Pylons or Django or Ruby on Rails. As the community expanded others started running instances of the software. Where we started with a single site, now there is a decentralised network of sites in Canada, Germany and elsewhere. Even some governments are running their national data catalogues using it, for example http://data.gov.uk/. Perhaps unsurprisingly it was not long before members of this community began to want slight changes to the data model to suit their local requirements. The most common request was to have additional metadata for a package. There was no particular common thread to the specific metadata each wanted so a system was devised to be able to add arbitrary key-value pairs to a package, along with a way to specify how they were to be edited and validated. This was a less than elegant solution, but it was simple and it worked. Each site now has an extensions file that says what extra pieces of data they want. And then came the INSPIRE Directive which says that member states of the European Union must make certain geographic data available to the public. In order to be able to do this well, to be able to add geographic metadata to catalogue entries and search it with bounding boxes or circles we need to have a specialised index on this metadata. Making a spatial index is not hard, there is good support in PostGIS, the GIS extensions for the PostgreSQL database that we typically use, but it means that using a table of key-value pairs is out and entails more extensive changes to the schema. Worse, it risks introducing a dependency on PostGIS for sites that have no need of it – sites outside of the EU that are not concerned with geographic data. It seemed like we were running up against the limits of the usual SQL-backed MVC approach in trying to run a federated network of data catalogues, each with their own local extensions and slightly different requirements. The particular drawbacks can be summarised: SQL schemas are rigid. Making changes to the database schema means making parallel changes in the application code and making sure any running database is in sync. Hacks like the table of key-value pairs to avoid divergent schemas at different sites forego efficient indexing and the expressivity otherwise possible with SQL for those fields. Indexing of datatypes other than strings is impossible with the key-value pair arrangement. A related problem that arises when we start allowing local extensions to the data model is about what to do when aggregating data. A simple answer is to just aggregate the core information but this is very probably not good enough. What happens when different sites define an extension with the same name but different meanings? This is what led to the Open Resource Description Framework. In the ORDF model, the attributes of an entity (called predicate and subject, respectively, in the ORDF nomenclature) are URI s. This gives us a global namespace that is locally extensible to avoid collisions. Furthermore, there are a large variety of existing ORDF Vocabularies which may be useful for describing our data without having to re-invent the wheel. It also quickly became apparent that it should be possible to build a system that can be repurposed for other projects easily - after all if we are not constrained to put the bulk of our thinking into a SQL schema rigidly tied to python classes, then the software becomes more decoupled from the data and hence more reuseable. In April of 2010 they started work on a new project with the University of Edinburgh IDEALab for a new type of bibliographic information creation and collaboration platform and decided that this was a good opportunity to pursue this new strategy.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:30
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goddamnit ordf
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Sep 21, 2017 18:31
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Macaluso posted:The Garrosh player said "Goddamnit ordf" and chat is like LOL ORDF like it's a common known thing. What the gently caress is ordf Twitch chat is always filled with parrots that will just repeat things back. For these kind of events I usually just use Twitch's pop-out player so I don't even see it. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 18:32
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I choose to believe ordf is Kloctus' eternal rival.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:38
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lol Team Freedom, who stomped first game on Volskaya, just drafted a full Overwatch team with Genji, Tracer, Lucio, D.Va and Zarya 
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Sep 21, 2017 18:48
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I'm so glad that this game has a PTR where no changes happen when the game goes to live. And then after you buy a hero, they change it 2 weeks later. I seriously wish I could loving charge back 2 years of purchases for this stupid loving game.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:58
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PTR data is basically useless for determining game balance and it's not really the point of the server.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:12
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PTR is for game-breaking bugs and finding unintended changes, not for intentional balance decisions hth
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Sep 21, 2017 19:12
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NANOBOOST MURKY INCOMING https://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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Sep 21, 2017 19:16
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LoL is a more popular game and even they don't use their test server for balancing purposes. Also, Volskaya showmatch has a team with Abathur, Ana and Murky  e;f,b
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Sep 21, 2017 19:17
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I'm glad Team Freedom is having fun and destroying GFE
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Sep 21, 2017 19:19
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The glacial spike nerf was far too extreme and the fact that they needed to nerf it that hard is indicative of what people have said about blizzard for years, they have no loving clue about anything when it comes to balancing in video games.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:23
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Zotix posted:The glacial spike nerf was far too extreme and the fact that they needed to nerf it that hard is indicative of what people have said about blizzard for years, they have no loving clue about anything when it comes to balancing in video games. No Wave fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 19:25
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Schneider Inside Her posted:Chain, Frost Nova, Pull, Death and Decay is the combo I use and your damage becomes ridiculous once you complete your quest. Mix the ult in when you get it though I prefer to use it to secure ganks that you're not at. I really think you've got to hit the double chain to be good at KT That's probably my problem then.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:26
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lol Aba's toxic nests placed on the conveyor belts move. I didn't see one put on the circular path one but that'd be hilarious. Do creep tumors move? That'd be just weird as gently caress Minions are about as fast as the conveyor belts so if they get stuck on one they just waddle in place 
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Sep 21, 2017 19:31
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Any good YT videos on learning the game from scratch? I'll probably never actually play it (other than qp for overwatch promos), but I like watching matches and would like to understand the game a bit better. I have Pallytime bookmarked, but a lot of times he reacts as if something was amazing and I'm all  because I've no idea what happened. 
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Sep 21, 2017 19:34
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No Wave posted:They do know how to handle hero releases - they prefer to release heroes overpowered so that a.) suckers buy them immediately and b.) people don't declare them "DOA" or "unimpactful" for no reason. Yeah Blizzard tends to release heroes that are overpowered. Except for about half the time when they are underpowered. And occasionally they are already fairly balanced.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:37
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Grubby does some great ELI5 commentary, is good, and doesn't do unnecessary theatrics. He narrates his inner thought process well. He's also good at interacting with chat, so if you go on his stream I'm sure he would give you a rough rundown. Have you played other MOBAs? Your OW background should help you with planning when to fight over objectives, when to wait for team, etc. Unrelated, nanaboost murky game was anticlimactic. The nanaboost SFX and VFX are so subtle I couldn't tell whether Murky or KT got the boost.
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bamhand posted:Yeah Blizzard tends to release heroes that are overpowered. Except for about half the time when they are underpowered. And occasionally they are already fairly balanced. D. Va: Toned down Genji: VERY toned down Malthael: Very toned down Stukov: Significantly toned down Garrosh: Buffed! KelThuzad: Toned down Idk maybe it was different before, people tend to talk more about the Li-Ming and Valeera release than the ones that needed buffs.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:44
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BrianBoitano posted:Grubby does some great ELI5 commentary, is good, and doesn't do unnecessary theatrics. He narrates his inner thought process well. He's also good at interacting with chat, so if you go on his stream I'm sure he would give you a rough rundown. BrianBoitano posted:Have you played other MOBAs? Your OW background should help you with planning when to fight over objectives, when to wait for team, etc. No, not really. I tried watching DOTA/LOL matches and I had no loving clue what was going on, only played all of 5 matches of HOTS to unlock cop D.Va and it tickled my fancy enough to watch some games, and I've recently been watching Day9's "let's learn starcraft" videos (which is another game I like to watch but will never play) and started wondering if there was something similar for HOTS.
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No Wave posted:I've only played since nexus 2.0. It's not really a strong pattern one way or the other: Cassia was fairly balanced. Zul'jin was nerfed a bit but was never really over powered. Probius was buffed before he was nerfed. Varian was buffed before he was nerfed. Rag was overpowered. Lucio was overpowered. Valeera, more nerfs than buffs but honestly her win rate has always been bad. Samuro was overpowered. Alarak was about balanced. Auriel was balanced. Gul'dan was balanced. Medivh was awful. Chromie was awful.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:58
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I'm trying to think of heroes who were released weak and fixed by just number buffs rather than larger talent changes because what they were trying to just wasn't terribly useful. Maybe Lunara and Cassia?
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chumbler posted:I'm trying to think of heroes who were released weak and fixed by just number buffs rather than larger talent changes because what they were trying to just wasn't terribly useful. Maybe Lunara and Cassia? Comedy answer: Falstad. Buffed for 10 patches in a row and then nerfed for 10 patches in a row.
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chumbler posted:I'm trying to think of heroes who were released weak and fixed by just number buffs rather than larger talent changes because what they were trying to just wasn't terribly useful. Maybe Lunara and Cassia? Probius, Stitches, and Cassia.
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chumbler posted:I'm trying to think of heroes who were released weak and fixed by just number buffs rather than larger talent changes because what they were trying to just wasn't terribly useful. Maybe Lunara and Cassia? There's a website that catalogs patch notes that can be sorted by hero, if that helps. Fun fact: Stitches is the hero with the highest number of Hero Updates, followed by Abathur and Nazeebo.
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Sep 21, 2017 20:17
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Any time anyone complains about a new hero being overpowered I want to remind them about the days of Rexxar, and Losenara
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Sep 21, 2017 20:56
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Polio Vax Scene posted:Any time anyone complains about a new hero being overpowered I want to remind them about the days of Rexxar, and Losenara Wasn't chromie one of the lowest opening winrates at like 30% or so at release? Or maybe it was medivh? All I remember was people had a hard time adjusting to chromie for the first couple weeks to the point that it was almost a guaranteed loss if you had one.
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Sep 21, 2017 21:31
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http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/news/Heroes-Of-The-Storm/11591/5-tips-to-improve-your-tanking-ft.-jaypl Some pro guy wrote a guide on tanking. Point #1 sounds awfully familiar 
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Primetime posted:Wasn't chromie one of the lowest opening winrates at like 30% or so at release? Or maybe it was medivh? I'm pretty sure they were both abysmally low, but I think Medivh's has always been the worst. It also didn't help that she almost had Baleog-level HP when she was first released.
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Sep 21, 2017 21:56
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So with Johanna losing 37 points of health regeneration next patch, who's the new go-to low-skill fatty for solo queuers forced to play tank but terrible at it?
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Sep 21, 2017 21:57
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Anub'arak as long as you save your E for escapes only, unless you're 100% sure your assassins are available to blow up whoever you E onto* *AKA they are close enough, they are going in the correct direction, their skillshots are already in the air, they signed a contract in blood that they will focus the target, etc. If he's banned, Muradin. Same caveat with Dwarf Toss.
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Sep 21, 2017 22:12
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muradin is fun Block, Thunder Burn, Iron-forged Momentum, Avatar, Healing Static, Stoneform, Rewind You are very, very drat tanky with this build. I would say if you want to sac something for damage/cc, level 7 and 16 aren't as necessary, but both 4 and 13 are crucial for sustain bonus: Maraudin' Muradin skin Polio Vax Scene fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Polio Vax Scene posted:Any time anyone complains about a new hero being overpowered I want to remind them about the days of Rexxar, and Losenara I don't know how anyone thought Rexxar should have been released with how godawful that control scheme was.
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So since they nerfed the Tyrande owls a bit, I decided to try the Hunter's Mark level 1 against a team with D.Va and Stitches. By the end of the game I had 5 stacks so 9 second hunter's marks lol.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:43
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Family Values posted:That's probably my problem then. Just remember once you hit the first chain you got 4 whole seconds to hit the second one. Just gotta be patient. Hitting a 3 person nova is like doing drugs
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No Wave posted:So with Johanna losing 37 points of health regeneration next patch, who's the new go-to low-skill fatty for solo queuers forced to play tank but terrible at it? Varian could be what you're looking for, take his W talents on 1/4/7 and Taunt at 10 and he is very forgiving with your W acting as a get out of jail free card. In a team fight just get someone below half health and your E -> R should be enough lockdown for your team to kill them. But if you're used to Johanna you can keep playing her, Laws of Hope just looks like a little bit more of a burst heal than regen with the changes. Her personalized Burning Rage looks better than before and they have an interesting Q build path for her. I think she will play almost identically.
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