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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Abyssal Squid posted:

Yep. I've been trying to organize my thoughts about how the far left seems to view outcomes as independent from process, and how "you can't get from here to there" is treated as a failure of imagination at best, and counterrevolutionary at worst, but sometimes there simply is no process that will achieve a certain outcome. For a hopefully uncontroversial example, there is no way to get North Korea to give up their nukes or their missiles now, because to do so would be to sign their own death warrant. Negotiations, sanctions, coercion nuclear war, Kim Jong Un isn't going to just roll over and die without putting up a fight.

A lot of people apparently liked this cartoon (I tried pulling it directly from twitter but there's no text hooks on the tweet and that account has a zillion posts so I'm not going to infinite scroll a goddamn month and a half back):


"Look how much simpler (and therefore better) it is when you just say what you want, and ignore the steps necessary for making that work!"

Like don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of public libraries, but subsidizing book consumption would be way simpler to implement than running public libraries. Both plans would require funding, but that's about all a well-designed subsidy would need. With libraries you need to build physical facilities, you need to decide where to build those physical facilities, you need to staff them, you need to decide what books to buy and how many, you need to decide when to remove books from circulation, and so on. That cartoon's probably the clearest example I've seen of "My ideas are better than yours because I'm counting on Implementation Fairies to make everything work" on the left. On the right, of course, we have Donald Trump promising endless winning and better health care, and of course Ronald Reagan's famous rebuttal to Jimmy Carter's health care proposal, "There you go again. :)"


(Here's some things that are great about public libraries: they're a public space, which is something American society desperately needs. They're a quiet public space. They're free to use, so you can explore lots of books with minimal investment. They're free to use, so children have access to books. Librarians are less mercenary than publishers so they're more likely to promote books on merit rather than profit. Librarians can help patrons research and guide them to books they might be interested in. Note how none of these things is "library systems are easy to set up and maintain.")


I originally responded to someone who was yelling at someone else for thinking "you should be beaten until you suffer brain damage" was over the line, so it's not like I'm not bringing up hypothetical people out of nowhere.


hey dumbass my county just built a library down the street after a simple , single loving hearing about doing it like a year ago

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Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

loquacius posted:

Wow, I thought that cartoon was just a Zelda strip in disguise but I guess a thing happened

Man I get so much tail as a liberal you don't even know. Just walk into the bar with a vaguely left t-shirt and be pulling all night.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Shangri-Law School posted:

This is adorable, and it should not be adorable. :3:

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Scaramouche posted:

Man I get so much tail as a liberal you don't even know. Just walk into the bar with a vaguely left t-shirt and be pulling all night.

Yeah but conservatives don't go to gay bars.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

seiferguy posted:

In case anyone cares, conservatives are real mad that liberal women aren't dating them:

https://twitter.com/FDRLST/status/910173482394226688

A bunch of loser virgins voted for Trump because women having autonomy and standing up for themselves is stopping them from getting laid. A good post.

And whoo boy that Twitter is full of amazing posts.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Cythereal posted:

Yeah but conservatives don't go to gay bars.

:thunk:

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

Scaramouche posted:

Man I get so much tail as a liberal you don't even know. Just walk into the bar with a vaguely left t-shirt and be pulling all night.

Man no one asks me out with my Hillary shirt on. Must be me. :smith:

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Axe-man posted:

Man no one asks me out with my Hillary shirt on. Must be me. :smith:
Try going with a vaguely left-wing shirt next time?

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
When I walk into bars I yell "THE WOMAN RESPECTER HAS LOGGED IN" and I can't keep the girls off of me

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Xander77 posted:

Try going with a vaguely left-wing shirt next time?

Got'him

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost

Hand Knit posted:

The apex of this genre of cartoon is the masculine Ann Coulter versus hyperfeminine Hillary Clinton one. I wish I could find it.



e: bonus pink palms

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Starting to think Garrison is deep in the fursuit closet. And honestly, being a furry artist would be a considerable step up in his career.

Be honest with yourself, Garrison. Draw a nice bear fursona and put this ugliness behind you. It can even be named Gentle Ben :unsmith:

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




You say that like he isn't one already under a pseudonym.

Sandpuppy
Jun 16, 2012

Social Abscess
of the
Universe
It's hard out there for a Montana confurvative cartoonist.

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

Phi230 posted:

hey dumbass my county just built a library down the street after a simple , single loving hearing about doing it like a year ago

This just means it will either be defunded when the city council is up for re-election or there's only some initial funding for a snazzy building and interior but none provided for keeping a staff, the collection or the building itself alive for more than 4 years.

I've had the displeasure of living through this and there's plenty of irate librarians online both in Europe and North-America with a similar experience.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

IndustrialApe posted:

This just means it will either be defunded when the city council is up for re-election or there's only some initial funding for a snazzy building and interior but none provided for keeping a staff, the collection or the building itself alive for more than 4 years.

I've had the displeasure of living through this and there's plenty of irate librarians online both in Europe and North-America with a similar experience.

I'm one of them!

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

Cythereal posted:

I'm one of them!

Me too!

(I quit and went into IT, weakling that I am)

King Possum III
Feb 15, 2016

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endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Lurdiak posted:

I think Landlockistan has been claiming that the coasts are somehow ruining their economy since the early 90s.

They'd be entirely right on that one.

Capitalism hasn't treated the less populated regions kindly, and California would be an unlivable hellhole without the Midwest to sustain it.

And I'm an atheist, a socialist and not straight so this isn't me just hating cityfolk.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

IndustrialApe posted:

Me too!

(I quit and went into IT, weakling that I am)

I'm still looking for a job. :(

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Cythereal posted:

I'm still looking for a job. :(

Congratudolences

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
I-is that tornado sodomizing Trump with a tree? :stare:

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


I'm glad Chuck finally got a cover illustrator.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:



e: bonus pink palms

In what way is Ann Coulter "masculine" and Hillary Clinton "hyperfeminine" in this picture?

Jurgan fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Sep 21, 2017

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

seiferguy posted:

In case anyone cares, conservatives are real mad that liberal women aren't dating them:

https://twitter.com/FDRLST/status/910173482394226688

Why Won't People Who Hate My Opinions Date Me aside, I'm sure a person's views on abortion are completely irrelevant when you're looking for someone to possibly have sex with and be able to talk to afterward, how could that possibly ever be an issue

Angepain fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Sep 21, 2017

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes
Why would a conservative want to date a liberal anyway?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Avirosb posted:

Why would a conservative want to date a liberal anyway?

They assume it'll be a traditional old fashioned relationship where the husband decides how both of them are going to vote

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

ZDar Fan
Oct 15, 2012

Scaramouche posted:

Man I get so much tail as a liberal you don't even know. Just walk into the bar with a vaguely left t-shirt and be pulling all night.

If you're getting so much tail, why do you have to be pulling all night?

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Avirosb posted:

Why would a conservative want to date a liberal anyway?

Conservative women must not be kinky enough for them.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Avirosb posted:

Why would a conservative want to date a liberal anyway?

If they want any chance at a minority woman .

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Avirosb posted:

Why would a conservative want to date a liberal anyway?

For hate fuckin'

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Avirosb posted:

Why would a conservative want to date a liberal anyway?
They meet a nice lady who ticks all their boxes and with whom they have a rapport, except she runs away when they start to explain that abortion is murder. What they're upset about is not that they don't get to bang a liberal, it's that a woman is telling them "No".

Jabberlock
Nov 29, 2014




Is anyone else getting sick of this obvious cartoon template?

*Person talks about thing* "Are they talking about thing one?" "No, they're talking about thing two."

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost

Jurgan posted:

In what way is Ann Coulter "masculine" and Hillary Clinton "hyperfeminine" in this picture?

I should probably have quoted axolotl farmer, who was definitively talking about trying to find this particular cartoon. Beats me if this, or anything, is what Hand Knit remembers

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Good on ya, furry perverts.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Crabtree posted:

If he's so smart, why Mueller?

Friend, let me tell you about the Deep State...

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost
Slammed In The Can By My Engorged Intelligence Apparatus


Dommed To Completion By My Big Bad Boyfriend, The Deep State



foreverially walkiesized and loving it

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ACRE & EQUAT
Aug 28, 2004

FUNERAL BREADS
WAR BREAD

Hiding behind one of the corners of the oval office

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