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nickmeister posted:Yeah, they love burning the stuff in Taiwan. I tried to learn more about the specifics, but no one seemed to have in depth knowledge about. Especially the young people, whose pride for their culture would turn to discomfort as they realized they couldn't actually explain it and knew very little about it themselves. Yeah, I haven't seen people doing the paper ferraris and iPhones thing here, but I saw pictures from the mainland/HK. Purely anecdotally, from talking to young Taiwanese people--and my sample is biased towards "young Taiwanese people who live in Taipei and hang out in international circles"--yeah, I got the same impression from people. People seem to do the spirit money and the tomb sweeping from inertia and familial obligation more than anything else.
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Burning fake money is super duper cheap and beats offering "Prays". It's a crazy easy way to pay your respects in front of everyone even if you aren't remotely religious without having to buy into as it were or have people try to use it as an opportunity to convert you. The action is more important than the thought behind it, kowtow at the temple, plant some incense and you are done. As always with these things it is for the living and not doing it is a dick move even if they know you don't remotely believe in it.
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Pirate Radar posted:Yeah, I haven't seen people doing the paper ferraris and iPhones thing here, but I saw pictures from the mainland/HK. How intricate do the ferraris have to be? Like a 5x7 printout? A full on origami car? One is significantly cooler than the other.
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Sep 21, 2017 15:27
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They're like 3D papercraft things. Also quite expensive, which I find hilarious. I was going to buy some of those things as gifts for people back home but they're kind of ridiculous for fuckin' paper.
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A guy from China University in Hong Kong or something like that came to my school today to try to convince them to all major in Chinese studies at his university because of, well, you've heard it all before, Pacific Century, China as a world leader, etc. Basically every photo of amazing Chinese infrastructure and how much money they're spending on One Belt (12x the Marshall Plan!) has been discussed and thrashed in this thread already. I couldn't help but chuckle my way through the presentation. The great irony though was that the presenter was from Barcelona and was talking up Hong Kong's place on the World Freedom Index and what a great future Hong Kong had. My students didn't buy it though. I heard them chatting in the hallways after the presentation, "Why would we go to Hong Kong? That place is stupid expensive." Also, "congrats" goon dad. Everything you think you know about your wife will now change. All that cultural poo poo that you were able to ignore because you're an adult who can make your own choices is now going to be in your face all day every day.
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Raptor1033 posted:How intricate do the ferraris have to be? Like a 5x7 printout? A full on origami car? One is significantly cooler than the other. They are full 3D paper constructions in multiple colours with wooden frames. Some can be very intricate and are pretty cool in themselves. They are not chabuduo if you don't want them to be. https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=c...iw=1341&bih=955
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Hello! Im new in Chengdu, staying here for 1 year, working for a Spanish company. I would like to make some new friends to know the city and enjoy my stay here! Reply: Hello.ChengDu is the capital sity of SiChuan province.I am stay near to ChengDu! Hello, I'm looking for a babysitter, can you recommend me someone honest.(If she speaks Portuguese, much better). Thanks Reply: c madrid
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LimburgLimbo posted:I'm not popular with white chicks and I didn't get into Harvard; my life is literally worse than living in a ghetto stuck at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder 👀👀👀👀👀👀 one time someone said I was good at math!!!!!!!!!! OMG
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One time a Chinese Christian church guy tried to convert me and his pitch was just asking me if I knew that heaven offered infinite riches
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:One time a Chinese Christian church guy tried to convert me and his pitch was just asking me if I knew that heaven offered infinite riches they don't think it be like it is but it do
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Grand Fromage posted:Hello! Im new in Chengdu, staying here for 1 year, working for a Spanish company. I would like to make some new friends to know the city and enjoy my stay here! What's the point of this? Do they believe if they simply react it will lead into free English lessons?
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Pirate Radar posted:And since burning paper copies of things is accepted as just as good, people now burn paper Ferraris and iPhones so their ancestors can have the latest things, which is cool as heck My favorites are the shoes!  I unironically love the practicality. "Well, Grandpa could probably use a ghostly iPhone, but that's not gonna keep his feet dry!"
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nickmeister posted:What's the point of this? Do they believe if they simply react it will lead into free English lessons? The Great Autismo! posted:the inscrutable Chinese
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nickmeister posted:What's the point of this? Do they believe if they simply react it will lead into free English lessons? Literally every post in the Chengdu Expats group is like that: "Hi, can someone tell me how to get to the Panda Base?" ONLY COMMENT: "Panda base very good typical of Chengdu! U can enjoy!" "I'm moving to Chengdu for work and am wondering how Uber works there?" ONLY COMMENT: "welcome chengdu! u gonna try uber!" "What's the best way to get to the airport?" ONLY COMMENT: "shangliu"
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Pirate Radar posted:And since burning paper copies of things is accepted as just as good, people now burn paper Ferraris and iPhones so their ancestors can have the latest things, which is cool as heck My grandparents had a hard enough time with a programmable VCR. Imagine giving ghost grandpa who died in 1997 an iPhone. You'd have to burn him a copy of a dummies book and he'd still haunt you for help setting it up.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:33
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Burn some robot servants to help him.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:One time a Chinese Christian church guy tried to convert me and his pitch was just asking me if I knew that heaven offered infinite riches Wealth beyond measure, outlander.
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TTerrible posted:You should probably read the pages you skipped. Were they good? I got to the butt breathing stuff, but then when everyone was giving the final sign off I didn't think the next 700 posts were worth reading.
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just wait for the chinese to start burning bitcoins to give to dead gramps the hyperinflation in heaven/hell much be bad with so much fiat paper being sent
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Grand Fromage posted:haven't been paying attention to dumb groups in a while but I just saw this one tbh that was my reaction too
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GoutPatrol posted:just wait for the chinese to start burning bitcoins to give to dead gramps There is blank money you can burn so they can use whatever denomination and value they want! Either that or they receive blank pieces of paper...
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Some quality schadenfreude in this article: Hong Kong woman sues ex over property put in his name to avoid foreign buyers' tax code:
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Chaoshan Girl is tapping into the universe with her psychic powers and got a hint of my old posting in the astral plane.
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Bum the Sad posted:Grand Canyon very famous you see... See not so much, the air pollution since it was opened as a park has made visibility lower. Used to be able to see the whole thing, but not so much anymore Regarding Chinese dead people, I'm curious about the cultural collision of China and Día de Los Muertos. Will it be as disappointly insular as I suspect?  But nothing is as endearing as someone latching onto a foreign culture thing with genuine interest, it's more heartwarming than a development montage in a movie, and also IRL
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In Asia it's more like ghosts are so scary, must bribe them with food and money to gtfo
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Everyone's so scared of ghosts, but apparently they are defeated by zigzaggy bridges, so what's the big deal?
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peanut posted:In Asia it's more like ghosts are so scary, must bribe them with food and money to gtfo Works for Halloween.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Everyone's so scared of ghosts, but apparently they are defeated by zigzaggy bridges, so what's the big deal? Imagine you burn a paper pc for grandpa, now he haunts you whenever he has an IT problem.
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JaucheCharly posted:Imagine you burn a paper pc for grandpa, now he haunts you whenever he has an IT problem. That'd be a good set up for a joke: "Granddad, why don't you just ask the Tech Support guys in heaven?" "Tech Support guys in heaven? Are you kidding me?"
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JaucheCharly posted:Imagine you burn a paper pc for grandpa, now he haunts you whenever he has an IT problem. Oh, maybe just burn a photo of an Indian guy to send to heaven to fix his computer all the time.
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Bajaj posted:Chaoshan Girl is tapping into the universe with her psychic powers and got a hint of my old posting in the astral plane. also mengol calls u sir even when asking for sex when sounds hot but is kinda weird when it happens irl
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Coolguye posted:also mengol calls u sir even when asking for sex when sounds hot but is kinda weird when it happens irl  ?
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Meanwhile the ancestors are like, great, a miniature paper Ferrari, what am i supposed to do with this?
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BONGHITZ posted:Rip haire. Dump a refrigerator in a river.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Meanwhile the ancestors are like, great, a miniature paper Ferrari, what am i supposed to do with this? Oh wow this is an amazing thought. Bunch of pissed off ghosts in the afterlife constantly being deluged by piles of fake paper poo poo they can't do anything with. Funny short story potential.
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I am sure a couple of Hong Kong movies did that.
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BONGHITZ posted:Rip haire. Dead in India are remembered based on religion. Christians and Muslims do their stuff, while Hindus burn the body and forget about it. Sometimes they hang a photo of the deceased somewhere with some flowers on it. The body and life are temporary things, and many of the practices are meant to remind people of that, even though many Hindus now can't tell up from down in any of it because as secular as they come while clinging to tradition for social and neighborhood reasons. Even many believers can't tell up from down because the blindly cling to it but never bothered to read the books. The non-secular Hindus get it. People sit and watch the body burn and sons and males in the family are supposed to tend to the pyre and watch their loved on disappear forever. It's a religious experience and an act of closure, watching their physical presence float away in the air and river. The soul goes onto the next body and life, and the current one is finished forever. None of this "We shall live forever in heaven" business, as even in Hinduism heaven and hell or short-term places based on how much accrued karma one made in life. The only way out is liberation from the material worlds, and different sects have different ideas of what this means except for that they are going beyond time and space. There is a period of mourning after one dies, but if you follow the philosophy then the soul is already in another body after a couple days and your prayers are useless because now they are someone else's problem. I've seen the interaction of souls and bodies compared to grains of sand on a beach meeting for a moment and then being swept apart by an eternally huge distance. There's no guarantee you're going to be born on the same planet, let alone galaxy. The soul moves up and down animal, human, and god bodies based on karma, and trying to associate the body and mind with soul is like trying to associate a purple t-shirt with whoever wears it. Basically, they dead, forever. Of course, Indians love good hodge-podges, and a majority of the popular folk religious beliefs (especially by those who never read any of the books) are all just huge hodge-podges of ideas and rituals from all over the place. Bajaj fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Please, like anyone's Chinese grandpa wants anything except cigarettes in the afterlife. Why did you think everyone was smoking all the time?
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You can burn a paper Steve jobs and give you eternal tech support. You can burn charging cables or whatever. Recently people tried to be more creative in thinking of different kind of paper offerings. So the burning paper offering tradition mostly died out in the mainland because of the cultural revolution. In fact bodies in the mainland had to be cremated. It was only recently that you can bury the dead. Burning hell money is more of a southern Chinese thing and in northern china they just toss the paper money out in the fields. So the notion of the afterlife is a mix of old traditional beliefs and Buddhism. Everyone will be judged before the hell emperor. The bad people will be severely mistreated, boiled, and tortured forever in their afterlives while the good people just go straight to heaven. WELL NOT EVERYTHING IS SO CUT AND DRIED WHAT IF IM JUST A NORMAL PERSON WHO DOES GOOD AND BAD THINGS??? So you get stuck in hell limbo. You have to make your way and line up towards the hell emperor because hell is a busy place. This is where the cars the helicopters the houses the whatever comes in. The hell money is to bribe people or pay for miscellaneous hell expenses and the homes are for living a ballin life while you wait or settle in the afterlife. It's really up to the imagination of the living to give a gift to the deceased. Maybe it's a house or a car or an iPhone but it's just some token appreciation or wishing that the deceased won't be so empty handed. Not everyone will burn a lot some people even skip all the burning jumbo and hire Buddhist priests to chant sutras and hurry the dead to pass on beyond the afterlife. Some people do both, it's their funeral and wishes to mourn so whatever. It never occurred to people that hell had crazy inflation and you burning a hell motor car means people get stuck in loving hell traffic jams. gently caress man, burn a hell-icopter or something. I find everything a bit silly but its actually quite democratic in the sense of everyone can get the same paper offering regardless or their current wealth. A capitalistic notion of materialism turning into socialism!
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And oooohhhhboy has baggage or issues about his cultural heritage
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