Taintrunner posted:

Democratic Socialists of America: Hitler Got His Start There

Agean90 posted:

after you guys own the hell out of the cop and his piglets go to chili's, the official restraint of socialism, to celebrate

https://twitter.com/nataliesurely/status/910993123718791168

Yinlock posted:

so is this supposed to be anti communism, b/c that skeleton owns

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Syndlig posted:

so the meeting was better than expected, but we still basically got nothing done. I imagine that's going to probably be the pattern for the rest of this year, hopefully we can get the bylaws amendments discussed at some point so we can start counteracting this fetontist disruption bullshit.

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Agean90 posted:

Have you considered just saying that they're not welcome and tossing their asses out?

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thehoodie posted:

Ok so I'm in Canada what do I do how do I bring about the revolution here?? Obviously this is the wrong thread because it says America in the title but

Over Easy posted:

See, I was wondering why businesses weren't all over supporting Medicare for Fall seeing as how they can all fire at least one of their HR nerds that is responsible for telling people that work for a living how much their insurance doesn't cover

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bump_fn posted:

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an actual dog posted:

they don't support medicare for all because they retain workers using healthcare benefits. if everyone has healthcare, they would have to treat their workers a lot better in order to retain them.

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Taintrunner posted:

resurrected by the eternal science of Marxism-Leninism, the social justice warrior continued his eternal march to unite all the people under one red banner

jarofpiss posted:

been doing harvey relief for a while now and i rolled up on a jobsite that was very obviously horizontally organized and half the volunteers were standing out in the lawn debating about bernie sanders.

this is the future the libsoc caucus wants

Goon Danton posted:

Is there any leftist strain in the US that's able to shut the gently caress up about Bernie Sanders?

jarofpiss posted:

yes, once i had them in respirators shoveling debris into wheelbarrows like the jobsite stalin i was born to be

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Over Easy posted:

^^Yeahhhhh buddy, I'd get jumped into that crew^^



I find myself reading those signs and nodding my head sternly.

jarofpiss posted:

been doing harvey relief for a while now and i rolled up on a jobsite that was very obviously horizontally organized and half the volunteers were standing out in the lawn debating about bernie sanders.

this is the future the libsoc caucus wants

pinkflag posted:

Centralism at work babey.


Who woulda thought socialism w/ bosses could be so effective.

pinkflag posted:

No doubt many of them, especially from the formation of the CP until the fall of the USSR. But there's plenty of examples of centralist orgs or branches of centralist orgs (some not even on here) that collapsed because of petty squabbling. Philly DSA absorbed a couple ex-Solidarity people because they had a branch collapse here (from what I'm told), and there's a couple well known resignation pieces by people who left SAlt over frustration w/ centralist decision-making (one alleges their Austin branch split from them last year over this). I'm not trying to poo poo on these orgs, they do good work, and I'd be proud to call them comrades, but this idea that the only people on the left fighting and self-sabotaging are anarchists is laughable bullshit.

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Having paid close attention to the development, trajectory, and activity of STLRC since its inception, our analysis indicates that there is a severe theoretical disparity in the organization. This is in part based on our direct conversations with their members and observations of their members’ online arguments. In a clear violation of the question of security, the fact that their cadre meetings are held online and not in person also says something about their level of and commitment to political education. Not once has STLRC held a study group, nor have any of the mass organizations associated with the project. This is the result of the productivist, revisionist, and Dengite line of “Hei.” Revisionism always seeks to accomplish a monopoly on theory and deprive its rank and file of the ability to wield theory as a weapon out of a material and warranted fear that the phony communism of the bad leadership will be exposed. This is in part why their leadership expedited the decline in communications with other collectives: he did not want us to interfere with the mountain kingdom he had constructed for himself. In debates with other members, theoretical discussion along the lines of dialectical and historical materialism were not even on the table. At best their leader was defended by paraphrasing his eclectic mash of opportunism and revisionism, identity politics, and so on—in short, anything but Maoism.

The reality is that the rank and file has been theoretically underdeveloped by their ego-driven revisionist leader, and any routes to break free from this have been closed off by him. He seems to feel well equipped in online arguments where he can present a larger shadow than he can in a face-to-face meeting. While members of the organization claimed to have criticized him for his antagonistic online behavior, no change can be detected. These comrades in the organization have been reduced to not questioning the outlandish charges leveled by their leader, who poses as a theoretician but actually has no grasp of MLM himself—Maoism is just whatever he feels like saying it is and everyone else better agree. He has even referred to himself casually as an “internet prophet.” While he levels charges of cultish devotion to RGA, he might well be projecting a cultish devotion to himself onto the rest of us. We have no prophets in our movement, and it should be clear that prophets do not exist in the communist sense, least of all in STL.

It is our main desire that the genuine Maoists in the city of St. Louis fight hard to reclaim dignity in the movement, that they take their places among the ranks of the revolution and hold this ego-driven revisionist accountable. In every organization two-line struggle emerges and there must emerge a two-line struggle in STL—this is a scientific certainty. The left line must oppose the right-opportunist revisionism of “Hei,” who puts the whole organization at risk in ways detailed by this polemic. One way to accomplish this task is to take on theoretical study, look at the actual science of MLM, and hold your leaders to it—otherwise revisionism will be what you get.

We are not dogmatists. We understand that even “Hei” can stumble upon correct positions, but only Marxism-Leninism-Maoism can be the guideline to detect those and separate them from the nonsense he so commonly spews. STLRC’s isolation from all but him has resulted in a quiet collective that has been domesticated by its egotist leader whose loud presence has disgraced their whole organization. This is an unacceptable loss for revolution in STL, an impediment to unity, and a defection from the party-building effort. Someone like “Hei” who cannot be reasoned with by those outside of his kingdom cannot hope to develop theoretically past his confused misunderstanding of MLM without struggle and accountability from his own collective. This change must arise from the internal contradictions in the STL collective. All we ask is that they study and apply Maoism from the bottom up in the interest of future principled unification. If this request is unthinkable then that says everything about the ideological basis of the organization that will prevent it from ever being a revolutionary project in the sense that every collective is driven to become one.

From the ISO to the PSL and every other revisionist formation, theoretical development is handled with elitism; philosophy is not seen as a weapon to be taken up by the rank and file and the masses themselves. Mao on the other hand and Maoism as a result have always had a focus on exporting our theories and making them available and understandable to every communist regardless of station or rank as well as the masses. When formerly illiterate Chinese masses grasped Maoism, the Cultural Revolution in all of its glory was the result—revisionists like “Hei” were discovered, criticized, and transformed or weeded out. This was the reason for the mass production of the collected works of Chairman Mao and the Little Red Book, which has become the most read and distributed book of all time next to the Christian Bible, making it the bestselling work of nonfiction ever written. We must take up this spirit when it comes to political education. The education carried out by Liu Shao-chi was geared toward pressing his revisionism and confusing people about Maoism—this is all that “Hei’s” educational work has ever accomplished. Divide and confuse, divide and confuse—this is the method of “Hei” revisionism.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Oh! If you want to see some really down and dirty leftist infighting, check out this 11,000 word treatise by a Maoist coalition regarding their St. Louis chapter:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A4euMz8mZfqV0QyXVCYQp1VREvZVzY7LqShVRM4UXG4/edit

Crazed Texas Maoist posted:

Mao on the other hand and Maoism as a result have always had a focus on exporting our theories and making them available and understandable to every communist regardless of station or rank as well as the masses.

Crazed Texas Maoist posted:

We have little to no interest in the content of our enemy’s constitution in occupied Aztlan.