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Sep 22, 2017 16:27
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Mochi melts at much lower temperatures than rubber so maybe Gear Fifth involves heat in some way and he'll melt Dogtooth
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Sep 22, 2017 16:27
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Countblanc posted:Mochi melts at much lower temperatures than rubber so maybe Gear Fifth involves heat in some way and he'll melt Dogtooth [one pieceishly] ah... good thing my haki protected me, from the heat
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Sep 22, 2017 16:30
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Perospero is a true man of culture; he gets his arm blown off and his main complaint is that it will inconvenience his tea drinking.
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Sep 22, 2017 16:32
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A reversal of how the end of the pre-timeskip worked would be kind of neat. Luffy and his crew work together to take down Big Mom because Luffy already fought Dogtooth and feeding the wedding cake failed. Then Kaido is Luffy at his best and fresh for a 1v1 throw down, instead of fighting after a failed plan. Also Oda has had plenty of teamwork moments for final fights. Beating Buggy is the earliest point where Luffy gets an assist to beat the boss, Oars JR also counts, as does Eneru now that I think about it. The crew don't have to hit a bad guy directly to help with a fight.
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Sep 22, 2017 16:33
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Pureauthor posted:Perospero is a true man of culture; he gets his arm blown off and his main complaint is that it will inconvenience his tea drinking. That was so loving funny
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Sep 22, 2017 16:39
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I'd be happy with the new wedding cake being so good that Big Mom is content to let them leave. Then she gets to have delicious food sent from Sanji periodically and considers the Strawhats her friends, pretty much everything she as wanted since being a kid. Being king of the pirates seemed more like Strussel's doing then Big Mom's dream. She just wants sweets and friends.
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Sep 22, 2017 16:57
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Havoc904 posted:I'd be happy with the new wedding cake being so good that Big Mom is content to let them leave. Then she gets to have delicious food sent from Sanji periodically and considers the Strawhats her friends, pretty much everything she as wanted since being a kid. This except just as everyone is making peace Luffy flies in from off panel and punches Big Mom because he missed the conversation.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:00
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I keep forgetting it but I definitely think the resoltuion here is a combination of Sanji's cooking and then Pudding's memory editing when Mom is in a food coma.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:06
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On the other hand, I'm putting decent odds on Perospero getting his rear end kicked, simply because he's this arc's Spandam.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:15
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Also I wish to reiterate that Smoothie is completely loving useless.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:16
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I am super-hyped for Luffy's fight. Really can't wait to see how he pulls this one off.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:18
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Pureauthor posted:Also I wish to reiterate that Smoothie is completely loving useless. I assume she'll get more attention if the Big Mom Pirates show up for a second arc. There's a bunch of folks who Luffy and company have barely interacted with.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:20
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im glad pound got off that island
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Sep 22, 2017 17:23
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man luffy's gotta invent a new power to gently caress katakuri up huh
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Sep 22, 2017 17:26
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all the old panels got me in the mood for a reread, but I don't really have the time, just did a little rerun of the marineford battle instead...and it's always struck me how Ace clearly died because he was hot-headed and stupid. he would have maybe been able to keep running away but he falls for Akainu's provocations and then pays for it. Maybe put respect on Whitebeard and the WB Pirates names by making good on the rescue they're paying all their lives for? Like maybe that would be a greater way to defend their honor than stopping the entire escape because the Biggest rear end in a top hat in the Marines is calling you names? Guess that wouldn't have been hot-headed Ace though. Man of fire and all that. 879 was cool. Katakuri is the man. We were talking about Jinbei's personality and how that would work with the Strawhat's chemistry, and I liked the sample interactions we got in this chapter. Brook being all sentimental not to mention kinda rude ("Hey you, you never even spent time with our furry! Let's take time to cry instead of taking full advantage of his sacrifice", gee I wonder why you're a skeleton and Jinbei's still got his fish flesh) when there are bigger fish to fry, maybe honor his sacrifice by focusing on the matters at hand. Jinbei's just a pro pirate, getting the Strawhats to focus again. and then Big Mom literally shows up two seconds later, proving his point.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:30
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Darth Walrus posted:I assume she'll get more attention if the Big Mom Pirates show up for a second arc. There's a bunch of folks who Luffy and company have barely interacted with. At this point I don't see the Big Mom showdown happening anywhere other than Elbaf so Smoothie has lots of time.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:37
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Darth Walrus posted:On the other hand, I'm putting decent odds on Perospero getting his rear end kicked, simply because he's this arc's Spandam. Perospero is FAR more competent than Spandam ever was!
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Sep 22, 2017 17:41
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Also Perospero gives candy to kids. Spandam would probably steal candy from kids.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:41
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I want Brook and Mont-d'Or to have a mind-bending illusion fight.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:56
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perospero is really bad with the drawn-out-too-long villain monologue thing but he's really fuckin dangerous and powerful and smart enough to direct big mom's rage when no one else would step up
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Sep 22, 2017 17:57
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Lord_Magmar posted:Also Oda has had plenty of teamwork moments for final fights. Beating Buggy is the earliest point where Luffy gets an assist to beat the boss, Oars JR also counts, as does Eneru now that I think about it. The crew don't have to hit a bad guy directly to help with a fight. Transporting Luffy to a place where he can punch the bad man might be helping him, but it isn't helping him in the actual fight and is pretty obviously not Nami helping beat him up. Hell, in the same scene (basically) where Luffy says his job is to beat the people his crew can't he gets his feet stuck in concrete and needs help surviving that; he's only able to fight Arlong again after Nojiko and Sanji keep him alive for a while. He very obviously doesn't mean "I don't need help ever" even putting aside that he blankly states he needs the crews help with multiple other things, since that'd make his crew un-necessary, he only means "I can out punch the people my crew can't". Havoc904 posted:I'd be happy with the new wedding cake being so good that Big Mom is content to let them leave. Then she gets to have delicious food sent from Sanji periodically and considers the Strawhats her friends, pretty much everything she as wanted since being a kid. I disagree. All Streussel wanted was to have power again by the looks of things, while Big Mom wanted to make a peaceful country that she figured the Mother Caramel she remembered would want, which getting more power and fame would help since it would further guarantee peace. That aside, the above is probably the most boring resolution I can think of to the arc. Big Mom has not only done some heinous poo poo, ordering the death of family and subordinates simply for wanting a life away from her, using Sanji's family, reigning with terror over her territory, brutalizing Fishman Island in return for protection in a way reminiscent of organized crime but has essentially never come up against any kind of physical limit and has never grown up. Punching her out and forcing her to face defeat might not be the best way to force her to grow up, but it's a drat sight better than simply admitting that she can't be beaten, then choosing instead to appease her and never addressing the fact she's an over grown child at all but instead appealing to that over grown child and validating her life like every one else has done. The climax of the arc being "and then they gave her cake and everything worked out" is just dull.
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Sep 22, 2017 18:27
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sugar's power still remains the single most impactful power in the one piece universe so far right? I mean it has the ability to completely nullify and control someone and also make anyone in the world who ever knew them forget they existed with a single touch
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Sep 22, 2017 18:33
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Snazzy Frocks posted:sugar's power still remains the single most impactful power in the one piece universe so far right? I mean it has the ability to completely nullify and control someone and also make anyone in the world who ever knew them forget they existed with a single touch
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Sep 22, 2017 18:45
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it'd be pretty easy for sugar to walk up to someone and touch them. she's just a little girl, it's not like everyone is gonna automatically have their guard up against her. after she does, it's checkmate since no one would even remember it happened
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Sep 22, 2017 18:47
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Not saying it's a weak power, but it needs stealth and subterfuge to be effective. It also is reversible, knock out Sugar and it's all gone. Let's put it this way, it's a great power for running a mafia and controlling a kingdom, it's not a great power if you were to get dropped in the middle of Marineford. Bisse fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Sep 22, 2017 18:50
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I mean, knock out foxy and he can't use his thing either. "if you beat the guy up, he loses" is kind of obvious and it'd be amazing at marineford. if she'd touched ace, everyone would have forgotten him and they could have just walked him out to safety
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Sep 22, 2017 18:57
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Manatee Cannon posted:I mean, knock out foxy and he can't use his thing either. "if you beat the guy up, he loses" is kind of obvious how would they know its ace unless the user doesn't forget who it was (was that ever covered?)
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Sep 22, 2017 18:59
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Snazzy Frocks posted:how would they know its ace unless the user doesn't forget who it was (was that ever covered?) I don't think she forgets. if she did, she wouldn't have thought to give the toys orders would she? nobody would know where they were coming from and she wouldn't know how her own powers worked because she'd get mind wiped every time she used it
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Sep 22, 2017 19:01
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Magellan has the strongest fruit power
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Sep 22, 2017 19:02
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i don't remember seeing magellan in the character sorter which is rude because mine deffo would have gone luffy -> nami -> carrot -> magellan
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Sep 22, 2017 19:04
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Kinda hoping at the end of this that Sanji is actually married. That would be the only resolution to that thread that would make it meaningful. Especially now that we're in the back half of the story where things really need to have lasting meaning rather than just reset to the status quo. And with that wedding pudding would bring along a huge chunk of the remains of the big moms pirates to the straw hat armada.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:04
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i think it'd be weird for sanji to get married from a "do not marry someone who kidnapped you and who you have known for several days at most" perspective, but i think they should become romantic penpals where you see sanji get big heart eyes while clutching a letter between arcs, and get married later
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Sep 22, 2017 19:10
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M_Gargantua posted:Kinda hoping at the end of this that Sanji is actually married. That would be the only resolution to that thread that would make it meaningful. Especially now that we're in the back half of the story where things really need to have lasting meaning rather than just reset to the status quo. And with that wedding pudding would bring along a huge chunk of the remains of the big moms pirates to the straw hat armada. it has a lasting impact on the world since the strawhats infiltrated big mom's headquarters, blew up her castle, decimated her forces (including some of her sweet commanders), stole a bunch of important things (the poneglyph, jinbe, sanji), and will be getting away with it especially if big mom decides to chase after them
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Sep 22, 2017 19:14
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Manatee Cannon posted:it has a lasting impact on the world since the strawhats infiltrated big mom's headquarters, blew up her castle, decimated her forces (including some of her sweet commanders), stole a bunch of important things (the poneglyph, jinbe, sanji), and will be getting away with it I mean from a lasting character growth standpoint. Much like Hancock is effectively Luffys wife, but as Pirate King he has no interest in settling down. Sanji may have been kidnapped and coerced by big mom and his family. But he met pudding and accepted that she was going to be his wife and that he was drat well going to be a good husband at the least. He continually shows care for her and is protecting her, even after she revealed her extreme bipolarness. If he rewound all that and went back to womanizing then it would just be a reset to the status quo for him as a character.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:19
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Pureauthor posted:Perospero is a true man of culture; he gets his arm blown off and his main complaint is that it will inconvenience his tea drinking. I'll use my "deceitful candy" to replace my limb.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:27
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Sanji can't get married. He's already married. To his job.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:29
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Yeah I'm hoping that Sanji more or less drops his gimmick now. He could still be a weirdo about Nami and Robin I guess but I feel like this arc is Oda acknowledging how lovely Sanji has been since the New World and giving him an out. Pudding will probably stay behind after altering Big Mom's memories, but even if they don't ultimately get together I hope Sanji can at least act like he does towards Pudding with women in the future and just be genuinely well meaning and charming without the constant nose bleeds and lol perversion. I really liked pre-timeskip Sanji where the gag was mostly just a quick thing and he could actually be a real person and do things. I feel like versus Kalifa should have been the worst he got where he couldn't fight an enemy he really needed to or even respect her as an enemy, he should have learned something there. It's lame it's taken 10 more years of One Piece for him to grow, but at least it might be happening.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:30
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That one guy: ah, finally. Once lufffy gains strength from fighting "Dogtooth commander" he'll finally be ready to punch big mother to death, the only way this arc could possibly end.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:30
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Sanji would totes honor-marry pudding Pudding edits mom's memory to make their marriage an alliance marriage and then he doesn't actually have to fight big mom and and she gets a redemption story after she figures out her backstory
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Sep 22, 2017 19:34
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