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Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


so is the cnn debate still on?

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

so is the cnn debate still on?

I'm pretty sure, they're not gonna cancel it because of Twitter grousing from the same people who grouse on Twitter whenever Bernie Sanders does anything

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

comedyblissoption posted:

it's kind of weird when someone that's not even in your political party is the face of your party lol

Fortunately the face of the Democratic Party is Democratic Senator Bernie Sanders, who is a Democrat.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
The whole cnn debate is an elaborate honeypot orchestrated by $oro$ to discredit bernie by getting him owned at said debate

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/johnsonjakep/status/911312368776499201

Ro Khanna resurfaces again

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Ro's Khannate

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005


“Young people were most supportive of single-payer, while seniors, who use the most health care, reject it by a wide margin,” said Penn.


Seniors are already covered by single-payer with medicare, gdi. That's why I've said for the last decade that the easiest sell for M4A would be "doesn't everyone deserve the single-payer program that our seniors now get and love?"

also lolol that it was mark penn's firm doing the survey and single-payer *still* came in with majority support.

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Weeping Wound posted:

so what did you all get on Sorkinsmas Day

I assembled a baker's rack in my office to house my various Gundam models and another in my kitchen to house my various countertop appliances.

Fuck Whitey
Nov 9, 2016

by SA Support Robot
I'm glad USpol 2.0 spent like ten pages arguing about why leftists get mad about people using claims of racism to shut them up and going in circles about whether or not it's because they're Fragile Whites and that a really good post giving a specific example from that thread to illustrate the point got ignored because a guy used dogwhistle in the worst way possible instead of debating something that was worthwhile like whether toilet paper goes over the top or under the bottom

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

gently caress Whitey posted:

I'm glad USpol 2.0 spent like ten pages arguing about why leftists get mad about people using claims of racism to shut them up and going in circles about whether or not it's because they're Fragile Whites and that a really good post giving a specific example from that thread to illustrate the point got ignored because a guy used dogwhistle in the worst way possible instead of debating something that was worthwhile like whether toilet paper goes over the top or under the bottom

damning statement that you've read uspol

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

http://twitter.com/gdebenedetti/status/911306507962191875

https://mobile.twitter.com/caseytolan/status/911302893210181632

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
goddamnit Gavin I want to hate you, let me hate you

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
R. Guyovich will be gulaged for shutting down the bad dem zone, uspol is loving insufferable on so many levels

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

recombine dand and cspasm

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

gently caress Whitey posted:

I'm glad USpol 2.0 spent like ten pages arguing about why leftists get mad about people using claims of racism to shut them up and going in circles about whether or not it's because they're Fragile Whites and that a really good post giving a specific example from that thread to illustrate the point got ignored because a guy used dogwhistle in the worst way possible instead of debating something that was worthwhile like whether toilet paper goes over the top or under the bottom

I poked my head into that thread a couple times but personally I'm really tired of having the conversation "is leftism inherently racist" again and again

like they're phrasing it as "there are leftists who are also racist" but the thing is every group of people on Earth contains some racist individuals so I don't get how it can possibly be constructive to argue that unless you're trying to go out of your way to associate leftism with racism

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

loquacius posted:

I poked my head into that thread a couple times but personally I'm really tired of having the conversation "is leftism inherently racist" again and again

like they're phrasing it as "there are leftists who are also racist" but the thing is every group of people on Earth contains some racist individuals so I don't get how it can possibly be constructive to argue that unless you're trying to go out of your way to associate leftism with racism

it's back to hillary is a woman, so women inherently love her

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Gavin!!

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
I've said it before and I'll say it again: political deathmatch thread where trump, clinton, and sanders posters post and any political ranting outside the thread gets a probe

Fuck Whitey
Nov 9, 2016

by SA Support Robot

loquacius posted:

I poked my head into that thread a couple times but personally I'm really tired of having the conversation "is leftism inherently racist" again and again

like they're phrasing it as "there are leftists who are also racist" but the thing is every group of people on Earth contains some racist individuals so I don't get how it can possibly be constructive to argue that unless you're trying to go out of your way to associate leftism with racism

The issue is that leftists don't decry racism in their ranks instead of just arguing that leftism isn't racist which fair point but then they gloss over the actual false accusations used to shut the left down and welp

Also glosses over the part where other groups are actually founded on or run by people with racist beliefs

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Al! posted:

Gavin!!

Joanna Newsom confirmed opening for Bernie rallies

gently caress Whitey posted:

The issue is that leftists don't decry racism in their ranks instead of just arguing that leftism isn't racist which fair point but then they gloss over the actual false accusations used to shut the left down and welp

Also glosses over the part where other groups are actually founded on or run by people with racist beliefs

Leftists do decry racism in their own ranks, far more than even liberals who are more likely to cover up for their allies' "mishaps" since they have more to lose by admitting the failures and unsuitability of their people. If there is any conflict, it is that leftists often believe that people can be reformed and turned for the better through practical experience, so they do not categorically bar "problematic" demographics from tentatively participating on their politics.

steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 21:41 on Sep 22, 2017

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

barbara lee 2020

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

gently caress Whitey posted:

The issue is that leftists don't decry racism in their ranks instead of just arguing that leftism isn't racist which fair point but then they gloss over the actual false accusations used to shut the left down and welp

Also glosses over the part where other groups are actually founded on or run by people with racist beliefs

I'd be more open to that kind of argument if we weren't basically still in the middle of a years-long nationwide referendum on whether leftism is racist

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
Will medicare for all solve racism?

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

The Democratic Party (not a real party with balloons and confetti most of the time but an organization built around grody old ppl) is center-right on the "spectrum" hth

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

I wish KM posted in cspam

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Man Musk posted:

The Democratic Party (not a real party with balloons and confetti most of the time but an organization built around grody old ppl) is center-right on the "spectrum" hth

Don't you sperg-shame the Dems.

zegermans posted:

I wish KM posted in cspam

I say we trade her for you.

Fuck Whitey
Nov 9, 2016

by SA Support Robot

steinrokkan posted:

Joanna Newsom confirmed opening for Bernie rallies


Leftists do decry racism in their own ranks, far more than even liberals who are more likely to cover up for their allies' "mishaps" since they have more to lose by admitting the failures and unsuitability of their people. If there is any conflict, it is that leftists often believe that people can be reformed and turned for the better through practical experience, so they do not categorically bar "problematic" demographics from tentatively participating on their politics.

I want you to know that I have your back in that thread conrad but also I understand why POC are looking to hear that, and I don't think they're wrong or even coming from a necessarily bad place they just misguided

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star

Man Musk posted:

The Democratic Party (not a real party with balloons and confetti most of the time but an organization built around grody old ppl) is center-right on the "spectrum" hth

I'll have you know that being on the center-right (at best) of a certain spectrum is a large part of what makes me a leftist.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Majorian posted:

I say we trade her for you.

fair

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
is KM the source of barely relevant gif reply fad because if so i think i hate them

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

barbara lee 2020

Hell yeah

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



wow that uspol thread is bad. democrats are bad too.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star

Tiler Kiwi posted:

is KM the source of barely relevant gif reply fad because if so i think i hate them

They do essentially sign their posts, but with gifs, so maybe?

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Ugh I really want to vote for Chiang or maybe Villaraigosa or really just anyone other than loving Newsom. If he has the nurses though he's probably gonna be the allegedly progressive choice.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

100 degrees Calcium posted:

wow that uspol thread is bad. democrats are bad too.

A cool trick I employ is never visiting D&D.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Zhulik posted:

They do essentially sign their posts, but with gifs, so maybe?

despicable


thank u wowporn

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

zegermans posted:

I wish KM posted in cspam

the gifs make me appreciate zegermans and concerned citizen

at least they post words

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I've gotten in trouble for earnestposting too much in C-SPAM, but, the thing is, D&D is full of people I'd never want to talk to

Condiv's thread was ok :rip:

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tiler Kiwi posted:

is KM the source of barely relevant gif reply fad because if so i think i hate them

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Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

logikv9 posted:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: political deathmatch thread where trump, clinton, and sanders posters post and any political ranting outside the thread gets a probe

I'm in.

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